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Dec 20, 2024 8:56 PM
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Don't know if I'll be able to wait until after Christmas for the next ep

Anxious to see how will Bell turn the tables
Dec 20, 2024 9:32 PM
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ajw215799 said:
Is anyone else sick and tired of the Freya Familia? They’re like those types of rich kids who grow up thinking they are untouchable and then become criminals because they think they are untouchable

I am, they are probably going to be beaten by a technicality or something (anime only).

They are so unbelievably powerful that it seems like they could have solved literally every problem the series has had so far. There will probably be some insane power creep on all sides after this arc.
Dec 20, 2024 10:53 PM

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This shit is so raw, I fucking love DanMachi.

I've said this lot's of times, but it's true, this show/novel has the most inappropriate name ever, it has nothing to do with picking up girls in a dungeon, THIS SHIT IS RAW HARDCORE, all the love plots are just extras.
Sorry if my english is bad (っ˘▽˘)っ~~~
Btw, cry about it.

Dec 21, 2024 12:20 AM
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Another banger episode, nothing new really...
People keep calling out the fan service, with their boobs and all.

They fighting and chick getting incinerated off course they won't be able to burn all clothe off, it ain't a porno, but for some reason some y'all are thinking it's just for fan service.

The one thing that's been pissing me off this whole season is the whole Freya children with bell interaction.
"She shows you, prove you're worthy bullshit."
Bitch pls, your level 6/7 and I'm level 4/5 off course I won't be able to defeat you.

But then again common sense should've told them to put respect on Bells name, you've been an adventurer for years. And your best rank is level 7

And I'm just 6 months in and already level 5.

Some of you will probably say it's jealousy (which I understand) but then keep looking down on bell should've been a no no.
Even if you hate his guts you have gotta be able to see
Dec 21, 2024 3:50 AM
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Poor Bell, he got absolutely smashed...
Dec 21, 2024 7:00 AM
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Meep777 said:
_Sanchay said:

well they are, in ep 11 they burnt the Healer girl but she healed herself back.

So then it’s not so much a rule as it is how things turn out?

yeah, in a way cause i also don't know exactly from the looks of it and they either.
Dec 21, 2024 7:18 AM
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I hate Lili. She doesn't know how to strategize, and including last season, she hasn't made one successful plan that didn't involve people disregarding her strategy.

They have archers, magicians, magic swords that can attack long distances, and enemies that all stay in a single spot. So instead of attacking from a distance they charge ahead and fight the enemy's strongest fighters with mostly people who are under level 4 (which is ridiculous that they don't have more or didn't bother to level boost them) in the hopes that their strongest fighter will sneak past the enemy's forces and defeat one of the most powerful adventurers at level 7. Again, this strategy is terrible.
Dec 21, 2024 7:21 AM
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Intense episode.
lv 5 vs lv 7...
Game over.

Same thoughts. lmao
@CrazyButNot4U I agree with you. Lili's plan is terrible, and the level gap is the nail in its coffin
Dec 21, 2024 7:24 AM
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I really appreciate this series for having Bell lose. So many power fantasies out there that have the main character never lose, but Bell gets outright DEFEATED, multiple times over the course of the series. and the losses aren't just, "I wasn't strong enough, I have to be stronger!" These losses always impact him as a character, and changes his personality and ability to think critically as well. This beating by Ottarl is definitely gonna be another turning point for him.
We been eating good this season, and I'm excited to see how this downright unbalanced battle plays out.
Dec 21, 2024 7:26 AM
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The alliance really got beaten at every single step of the road. But thats not a surprise with Lilis early chatbot levels of planning.
They knew the Freya familia from the inside thanks to bell, yet they did not set up any counters. Level 5 bell is supposed to defeat a level 7 Ottarl alone? Were they really stupid enough to not even give their strongest fighter a power up?! This anime was always incredible wasteful with its level up ability, but this easily takes the cake.

I really wonder what kind of deus ex machina BS will turn this around.
Ryu alone would not be enough, and I expect her to come.

Honestly I wonder why not more gods decided to ignore the guilds rules. I mean Freya mind controlled everyone and she doesnt even get scolded, obviously the guilds rules are just a joke. So might as well ignore them entirely.

Really absolutely everyone in Freyas Familia is an asshole, wow.
That beeing said.. I kinda like their dedication. Most of the other characters feel like they are playing around, these guys properly dedicate themselves to their goddess.
@Comander-07 Thank god I'm not the only one who realized what a dumb plan it was
Dec 21, 2024 9:53 AM
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This shit is so raw, I fucking love DanMachi.

I've said this lot's of times, but it's true, this show/novel has the most inappropriate name ever, it has nothing to do with picking up girls in a dungeon, THIS SHIT IS RAW HARDCORE, all the love plots are just extras.
@StallionXD well, it was originally going to be named "Familia Myth" but the editor had to choose the current name...
Dec 21, 2024 9:56 AM
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Whoop his ass some more!
Dec 21, 2024 10:08 AM
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The alliance really got beaten at every single step of the road. But thats not a surprise with Lilis early chatbot levels of planning.
They knew the Freya familia from the inside thanks to bell, yet they did not set up any counters. Level 5 bell is supposed to defeat a level 7 Ottarl alone? Were they really stupid enough to not even give their strongest fighter a power up?! This anime was always incredible wasteful with its level up ability, but this easily takes the cake.

I really wonder what kind of deus ex machina BS will turn this around.
Ryu alone would not be enough, and I expect her to come.

Honestly I wonder why not more gods decided to ignore the guilds rules. I mean Freya mind controlled everyone and she doesnt even get scolded, obviously the guilds rules are just a joke. So might as well ignore them entirely.

Really absolutely everyone in Freyas Familia is an asshole, wow.
That beeing said.. I kinda like their dedication. Most of the other characters feel like they are playing around, these guys properly dedicate themselves to their goddess.
@Comander-07 To be fair with Lily, a Level 2 Bell killed the Level 5 Black Goliath with a full charge of Argonaut, so thinking a Level 5 Bell could do the same to Ottar isn't crazy, it's just that he didnt managed to sneak atta k Ottar... And that Ottar is crazy strong too. The plan had its risks but it was the only chance they had to ever defeat Ottar.

The guild's enforcing forces are the Ganesha Familia, which has a bunch of Level 5 and is the third strongest familia in Orario. Only Freya Familia and Loki Familia are strong enough to outright defy or ignore the Guild.


Now, if you mean the War Game, then Freya hasn't broken any rules, they still need to catch the flowers of the Alliance's gods to win. And Freya is still within bounds of the battle stage and has her flower on and visible, she is just very well protected by the Einherjar.
Dec 21, 2024 2:10 PM

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@Comander-07 To be fair with Lily, a Level 2 Bell killed the Level 5 Black Goliath with a full charge of Argonaut, so thinking a Level 5 Bell could do the same to Ottar isn't crazy, it's just that he didnt managed to sneak atta k Ottar... And that Ottar is crazy strong too. The plan had its risks but it was the only chance they had to ever defeat Ottar.

The guild's enforcing forces are the Ganesha Familia, which has a bunch of Level 5 and is the third strongest familia in Orario. Only Freya Familia and Loki Familia are strong enough to outright defy or ignore the Guild.


Now, if you mean the War Game, then Freya hasn't broken any rules, they still need to catch the flowers of the Alliance's gods to win. And Freya is still within bounds of the battle stage and has her flower on and visible, she is just very well protected by the Einherjar.
@Siegfried10 ok why underinvest in the key strategy by not giving bell a level boost?

And Loki wasnt allowed to join, now back to you

"This emotion is mine alone.
It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica.
Dec 21, 2024 11:42 PM

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"If you're going to basque in her love..." That's the point, he doesn't want any part of her love! I wonder if they're all under a spell.
Dec 22, 2024 7:21 AM
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dragynfaerie said:
"If you're going to basque in her love..." That's the point, he doesn't want any part of her love! I wonder if they're all under a spell.

Tunnel vision I guess. They're all like the motto of the rangers in Babylon 5 with "we live for the one, we die for the one".

The only thing their life evolves around is Freyas love and it doesn't matter whatever form it takes. Forced, free, mutual everything else takes second place. Your average cult fanatic basically where logic and reality have no matter.
Dec 22, 2024 7:02 PM
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Can't wait to see Mama Mia and Ryu beat Ottar, or sum else
Dec 23, 2024 9:19 AM

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Why was the episode only 5 minutes long? I swear this is getting better and better
Dec 23, 2024 11:51 AM
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Face to Face, a fatal confrontation between both sides!!!
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Dec 23, 2024 2:17 PM
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Amazing and superb anime

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bell is getting fucked up
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Well the war game is starting but I didn't expect it to be that tense already with the battles don't tell me Bell is already going to be defeated by Ottar, that guy is tough...
Dec 28, 2024 10:59 AM
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where can i watch the new season with sub? I need to watch it bad !!!
Dec 30, 2024 3:15 AM
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it was awesome!!!
Dec 30, 2024 11:20 AM
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DANG, this is fire
Jan 2, 12:44 AM
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Oh wow Alliance force still struggling, it just show us how much powerful Freya Familia was.
Crazy, absolutely crazy.

Bell stand no chance against Ottar?
Noo Bell, not like this.
I believe Bell can pull miracle somehow.

Oh wait, where is Ryuu?
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_Sanchay said:

No, it's a rule. They can't kill each other.

On both sides or just the alliance’s?

both sides. they can be physically injured by each other but not gonna die while fighting.
@_Sanchay When was that said? I demuxed the subs from episodes 10 and 11 to look for that and I don't see any mention of a rule that attacks to the familia members cannot be lethal. I did see that for the gods but not the rank-and-file. Here is the excerpt from the sub file for episode 10 when Hestia is relaying the rules:

Dialogue: 1,0:07:03.17,0:07:05.38,Q0,,0,0,0,,The details of the War Game have been decided, guys!
Dialogue: 1,0:07:06.38,0:07:09.46,Q0,,0,0,0,,We're going to duke it out by playing Hide-and-Seek.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:09.75,0:07:10.88,Q0,,0,0,0,,Just like the kid's game.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:10.88,0:07:12.08,Q0,,0,0,0,,Hide-and-Seek?
Dialogue: 1,0:07:12.08,0:07:12.71,Q0,,0,0,0,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:13.67,0:07:16.29,Q0,,0,0,0,,The Gods will hide while the children seek them out.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:16.58,0:07:18.58,Q0,,0,0,0,,Whichever side finds the other first wins.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:19.08,0:07:21.17,Q0,,0,0,0,,We settled on this to compensate for the difference in strength.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:21.58,0:07:23.67,Q0,,0,0,0,,I'll explain in more detail later, but to sum it up:
Dialogue: 1,0:07:24.04,0:07:26.13,Q0,,0,0,0,,Bringing any harm to the Gods is banned.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:26.88,0:07:29.29,Q0,,0,0,0,,But children fighting and obstructing each other...
Dialogue: 1,0:07:29.96,0:07:30.67,Q0,,0,0,0,,is allowed.
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@_Sanchay When was that said? I demuxed the subs from episodes 10 and 11 to look for that and I don't see any mention of a rule that attacks to the familia members cannot be lethal. I did see that for the gods but not the rank-and-file. Here is the excerpt from the sub file for episode 10 when Hestia is relaying the rules:

Dialogue: 1,0:07:03.17,0:07:05.38,Q0,,0,0,0,,The details of the War Game have been decided, guys!
Dialogue: 1,0:07:06.38,0:07:09.46,Q0,,0,0,0,,We're going to duke it out by playing Hide-and-Seek.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:09.75,0:07:10.88,Q0,,0,0,0,,Just like the kid's game.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:10.88,0:07:12.08,Q0,,0,0,0,,Hide-and-Seek?
Dialogue: 1,0:07:12.08,0:07:12.71,Q0,,0,0,0,,Yeah.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:13.67,0:07:16.29,Q0,,0,0,0,,The Gods will hide while the children seek them out.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:16.58,0:07:18.58,Q0,,0,0,0,,Whichever side finds the other first wins.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:19.08,0:07:21.17,Q0,,0,0,0,,We settled on this to compensate for the difference in strength.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:21.58,0:07:23.67,Q0,,0,0,0,,I'll explain in more detail later, but to sum it up:
Dialogue: 1,0:07:24.04,0:07:26.13,Q0,,0,0,0,,Bringing any harm to the Gods is banned.
Dialogue: 1,0:07:26.88,0:07:29.29,Q0,,0,0,0,,But children fighting and obstructing each other...
Dialogue: 1,0:07:29.96,0:07:30.67,Q0,,0,0,0,,is allowed.

even I don't know that which episode but I do remember one thing that no killing is allowed
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i fw the freya family honestly. i know that's the opposite point of the arc, but its the same feeling i got with the phantom troupe from hxh.

ottarl is a cool ass character.
Jan 7, 4:16 AM
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What's the catch? I suppose we're going to have to wait a while, ei? At least when it comes back, it'll be intense. Bell though doing his standard underdog ways. I expect this to turn in his favor soon enough.
Jan 8, 8:07 AM
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Ottarl vs Bell next
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Why is freya the only one whom can off a god. hestia and co should have banished freya to heaven right after the rig was up, why are they even entertaining a war game. Freya is an evil criminal, at the very least way way worse than that pleasure goddess that got killed few seasons ago. bla bla balance bla bla... right sure it suddenly matters, yet didn't when the other gods get off'ed of banishished from town...

Story has always been weak on actual justice, especially with bell being a pussyfoot whiteknight hero.
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The Freya Familia members are definitely not messing around. they took the war game way too literally, taking people down like flies right from the start. What’s even harder to watch is Bell getting absolutely beaten from the beginning. Ottarl is undoubtedly one of the strongest opponents he’s ever faced, but I’m sure this isn’t the end for Bell. Honestly, I’m just holding out for Ryuu to make the most epic entrance yet. Can’t wait to see how the rest of the episodes play out!
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Lol crazy how they just stood there and let her get the resurrection off.
Poor Mord, that guy really can never catch a break huh. Like how she's also bloody accusing them of all sorts of shit while they are literally just standing there not doing anything of the nature of "vulgar glare" etc. Though at 12:13 I swear you can straight up just see part of her nip. That's crazy. Really trying to push the line of "no nudity" there. Ah... Kind of wanted to see Welf's magic. "Free hit" my ass might have been a wrong translation. But if not that was not a free hit at all. That was more like "come at me any time I won't be on the offensive so you can charge up your spell. But it wasn't a Free Hit because he countered with his own attack. Ottarl is such a chad though lol "oh wait actually I'm higher lvl so that means you are stronger". Damn, cyclops maybe this is why you shouldn't just wear bandages around your chest. Obviously we knew Bell was gonna get his ass kicked her, because "duh" but the ragdolling is just disrespectful lol, man treating him like Hulk vs Loki.
Anyway decent episode.
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So I waited for about the month to see this episode because I knew it's gonna be lit. As hell. AND THERE AREN'T ANY YET!

But episode was fire from start to finish. Also beautiful boobs on beautiful women are always appreciated in here.
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I really hope that after this season and whatever comes next, we finally stop seeing that "reset" of Bell’s strength. It’s the same thing every season. Honestly, I’m not even saying this as a full-on complaint, but it does feel kind of "lazy" that the story doesn’t even think twice about reusing that approach to handle its protagonist and push the plot forward.
Jan 29, 5:10 AM
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Alright, looks like this is the final episode until they return from the mini-hiatus
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I hate Lili. She doesn't know how to strategize, and including last season, she hasn't made one successful plan that didn't involve people disregarding her strategy.

They have archers, magicians, magic swords that can attack long distances, and enemies that all stay in a single spot. So instead of attacking from a distance they charge ahead and fight the enemy's strongest fighters with mostly people who are under level 4 (which is ridiculous that they don't have more or didn't bother to level boost them) in the hopes that their strongest fighter will sneak past the enemy's forces and defeat one of the most powerful adventurers at level 7. Again, this strategy is terrible.
@GeekNewz so needs to grow as a character tbh bell needs to grow the most he just seems to be stuck being a kid like 5 season in and bro is still acting like a naïve brat wish he would shape up take charge and be confident already lil needs to stop focus on bell and focus on herself and trying to accomplish something bell is having his fight why is she just shouting bells name like a idiot, focus on the battlefield and try help the others leave this to bell, i find this season no better than the previous the cast just doesn't seem to grow to me they just manage to beat their foes and revert to being npc

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Why is freya the only one whom can off a god. hestia and co should have banished freya to heaven right after the rig was up, why are they even entertaining a war game. Freya is an evil criminal, at the very least way way worse than that pleasure goddess that got killed few seasons ago. bla bla balance bla bla... right sure it suddenly matters, yet didn't when the other gods get off'ed of banishished from town...

Story has always been weak on actual justice, especially with bell being a pussyfoot whiteknight hero.
@Aapjuh bro the series is bunz only s1 was very good cuz it showed potential, each season gets bad writing wise and the mc can never grow up same as the cast they all just washed my friend was hyping this saying how great of a season it is amd that i should watch it but man i found it bunz really bad he was like freya is peak and how she was amazing but im like bro freya is trash she couldn't get the man she wanted she she having a hissy fit, honestly they should have focus on going to dungeon and fighting monsters instead cuz at least that minitour fight a few seasons ago was pretty entertaining

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It's hard to wake him up, he was a strategist, someone always dies in battle. There is always hope, but since the children of Familia Frei have never been beaten in the ass like Bell, then they will be surprised that suddenly someone defeated them and struck a blow. They consider themselves the best, let Bell get so angry that Zeus himself will come and stop him :D It's not worth throwing good people off balance, I don't advise it, I know this from my own experience and my real life :)
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This episode surpassed my expectations! When I watched Danmachi season 1 I felt as if the anime wasn't going to be all that great, as the flow of everything was a bit slow and overall, there was a lot of walking and talking, it felt as if the anime was somehow being dragged out!

Yet, here I am, watching episode 11 of season 5 with more interest in the anime now than ever. The anime gets better and better after every season and overall, the war games are starting within episode 11 and I'm hyped!

All I can say is, from rating this anime from a 7 to a 9, I'm glad this anime got better.
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Man... and here I thought Heith (pink-haired healer) was the only "sane" one in the Freya Familia. Nah, she's just as much of an unbearable Freya simp as the rest of them.

Also, Lili. I have nothing against you but sending Bell alone against a Lv-7 foe without buffs is... absurd, to say the least. Not to mention not targeting Freya's OP healer from the get-go and pretty much have every faction doing their own thing in the most disorganized way possible.
So yeah, your strategy kinda leaves a lot to be desired right now.

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Yeah, no way they are gonna win this. Show's biggest asspull till date incoming?
Feb 13, 9:08 PM

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Ottarl is such a chad, he let's Bell hit him with his mightiest attack but still came out standing.

Hmm, I wonder what Bell can do in this tricky situation~
Feb 15, 1:14 PM
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treachery at its peak
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Good god, even with the disparity of numbers, the entirety of Freya and her Familia coming as one full charge may had Lili almost in confusion, but they have no choice but to confront them head on and split their forces enough to attack on all sides.

When it comes to morale, the Freya Familia defintely has an edge over the rest, but to take down one of their strongest commanders through Bell, with Van charning at him first then Ottarl coming to face him with the formar's defeat, it's Rabbit's Foot vs. the King in the most intense swordfight thus far, when everyone else is losing left and right, even Bell himself without his capable sword to face the strongest man in Freya's army.

Just like Hedin, Ottarl honours Freya's every word, so Bell must once again surpass his limits.
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And you're telling me this same guy, who got his ass handed to him in some record time, and his bunch, will make it out of this war game as winners.. ?!?!?! Because, of course that's going to happen.

Seriously, this will go down in the history books, and for all the wrong reasons.
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