Calif. to release 40 % of Prison population ? And they want our guns ?

Facetious

Moderated
California may have to cut prison population by 40 percent


(CNN) -- Federal judges tentatively ruled on Monday that California must reduce the number of inmates in its overcrowded prison system by up to 40 percent to stop a constitutional violation of prisoners' rights.
California must cut the number of inmates in its prison system by up to 40 percent, judges have ruled.

California must cut the number of inmates in its prison system by up to 40 percent, judges have ruled.

"Overcrowding is the primary cause of the unconstitutional conditions that have been found to exist in the California prisons," the court concluded.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/02/10/california.prisons/index.html?iref=topnews

There's an easy solution here, if only the jelly spined politicians would stop whoring out to the special interests of the cheap labor - illegal alien "insourcing program", this state would have more sustainable conditions inside our prisons.
Last I checked, the national average of non U.S. citizen occupancy within or the nations' prison system is at or near the same 40 percentile that are projected to be released. A coincidence ? :dunno:
 
Yea I'm not too happy about this either. This was a problem that could have been prevented in the first place. And the only solution they can come up with is to release them all?! Well, if the crime rate goes up 40% I guess we can all say we told them so!
 

Facetious

Moderated
Building a new prison isn't an option then?

No, Arnold (muscle guy) already has thousands of state employees on a bi weekly work furlough in order to half way make ends meet.

Maybe the 12th most wealthiest of nations, MEXICO, will annex us :bowdown:
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
"Overcrowding is the primary cause of the unconstitutional conditions that have been found to exist in the California prisons," the court concluded.

"Unconstitutional"

Don't you like it when they say things like this, but when it comes to our weapons that are allowed by the Constitution they think they can interpret the rule.
The Constitution is the law and the government, the government is not people.

Why is there a statue of a gun with the barrel tied in a knot on American soil?
Why were the Georgia Guidestones erected by the Order of the Rose Cross?
(The Rosecrutions)
Also, a "gift" from French Freemasons sits in the harbor of New York.
A Sun Goddess.

:yinyang: :tongue:
 
Stop the drug war.
Stop illegally immigration.
Absoluetly no tolerance when it comes to immigrants who commit certain crimes.
Absolutely no welfare WHATSOEVER for immigrants. NONE. My taxdollars not going be your U.S.A dreamland.

This is coming from a semi-immigrant myself.
 
Hmmm... This sounds familiar... call me crazy but here's what I see happening.

1. Prison populations across the states will be at a percentage released. Since California already set the pressident. Other states will soon follow suit.

2. Liberals will at the same time renew their zeal to repeal the 2nd ammendment. Making it completely illegal for the average citizen to own a weapon. (However... as we all know, this will not stop criminals from gaining access to them!)

3. As is happening now... Police agencies in nearly all major cities are (will continue to) being down-sized due to budget constraints. Weakening an already feeble Police force.

4. New laws will be enacted to prevent the average citizen from being able to "protect themselves". Our Government will say that this type of vigilanty-ism will not be tolerated, and that it will cause a more chaotic and fearful environment.

5. Due to the conditions described above the crime rate will nearly triple. Citizens will begin to live in fear. An outcry from the populace will DEMAND that government " DO SOMETHING!!!".

6. Marshall Law will be declared... during this time Government will enact new "Constitutional Laws" which will enact a new form of rule. They will declare that these new laws will "protect us from ourselves", all the while we are losing our rights and our basic freedoms.

7. Freedom as we know it will become a distant memory. As we will live in tyranny.


*** Under the cover of FEAR and the guise of PROTECTION, Global domination and Human Servitude will prevail ***


- Don't say you were never warned.
 
Clear the way for gitmo detainees!
Hey isn't this the same state as Nancy Pelosi?
I think she created the stimulus program to help the Criminal Release.
Give every Criminal a Loan to buy a Home!
Once they have a home, they will be good citizens!
Reformed I tell you!
Let's first test it out by releasing the hardest of hard core criminals,
The ones that love cannibalism! Yea!
They would make good road construction crews, and weatherize your home!
Skin is a good insulator I hear.

Damn Ms 3rd in command Pelosi is so evil, she'd make a great madam in a porno! Get the whip and chainsaw out!
 
Stop the drug war.
Stop illegally immigration.
Absoluetly no tolerance when it comes to immigrants who commit certain crimes.
Absolutely no welfare WHATSOEVER for immigrants. NONE. My taxdollars not going be your U.S.A dreamland.

This is coming from a semi-immigrant myself.

:glugglug:

The drug war is too profitable, just like the prison and pharmaceutical industries.
 
Not that big of a deal as they're probably going to release the minor offenders i.e. pot heads. Also, it'll be those people who are probably deemed to not be likely re-offenders. The murderers, child molesters, and rapists aren't going to be let out.
 
Not that big of a deal as they're probably going to release the minor offenders i.e. pot heads. Also, it'll be those people who are probably deemed to not be likely re-offenders. The murderers, child molesters, and rapists aren't going to be let out.

Now, now, Doc. Let's not go there. Your common sense is liable to ruin a perfectly good hysteria fest.
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
Hmmm... This sounds familiar... call me crazy but here's what I see happening.

6. Marshall Law will be declared... during this time Government will enact new "Constitutional Laws" which will enact a new form of rule. They will declare that these new laws will "protect us from ourselves", all the while we are losing our rights and our basic freedoms.

*** Under the cover of FEAR and the guise of PROTECTION, Global domination and Human Servitude will prevail ***

- Don't say you were never warned.

I see this too. I have tried to warn people and very few want to pull their heads out of the sand.

The crime rate has always been on paper and inflated and deflated at will.

A civil war will start on the day marshall law is declared and they try to round up the guns and so on. Then the traitors can be rounded up.


It was people who made the Constitution and people who run the government that they created. So, the government is people.

:2 cents:

The Founding Fathers put the Constitution in place and gave us the right to have weapons. The government has limited power because of this.

The government is not people.
 

Facetious

Moderated
Hmmm... This sounds familiar... call me crazy but here's what I see happening.
(1 through 7 + "***") Quite possible. Somebody just needs to disrupt the catalyst or light the fuse, if you will, on a conscientious, centrist opposition to the extreme leftist goings on in Awashington.

It has been my longtime - lifetime ambition to never reduce myself into the realm of socialist victimhood !

Just for the hell of it, I post the following :
agree, disagree or comment - do we or don't we learn from history ?






Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35

January 10, 1963

Current Communist Goals

EXTENSION OF REMARKS OF HON. A. S. HERLONG, JR. OF FLORIDA

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Thursday, January 10, 1963​

CURRENT COMMUNIST GOALS

1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo.)

12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity which does not need a "religious crutch."

28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the "big picture." Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture--education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use ["]united force["] to solve economic, political or social problems.

43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

...............................................................................................•​


Cycle of Democracy

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through this sequence:

"From bondage to spiritual faith;
from spiritual faith to great courage;
from courage to liberty;
from liberty to abundance;
from abundance to selfishness;
from selfishness to apathy;
from apathy to dependence;
from dependency back again into bondage."

...............................................................................................

Just a song before I go -
The Trees


There is unrest in the forest,
There is trouble with the trees,
For the maples want more sunlight
And the oaks ignore their pleas.

The trouble with the maples,
(And they're quite convinced they're right)
They say the oaks are just too lofty
And they grab up all the light.
But the oaks can't help their feelings
If they like the way they're made.
And they wonder why the maples
Can't be happy in their shade.

There is trouble in the forest,
And the creatures all have fled,
As the maples scream "Oppression!"
And the oaks just shake their heads

So the maples formed a union
And demanded equal rights.
"The oaks are just too greedy;
We will make them give us light."
Now there's no more oak oppression,
For they passed a noble law,
And the trees are all kept equal
By hatchet, axe, and saw.​
 

Will E Worm

Conspiracy...
The government was not only created by people, but it also consists of nothing but people. We elect people into the government (some are appointed), which makes our government...people.

Those people have to follow the Constitution. Which they haven't been.
They are traitors to the true government of this land.

The Constitution, not people.
 

Torre82

Moderator \ Jannie
Staff member
The government was not only created by people, but it also consists of nothing but people. We elect people into the government (some are appointed), which makes our government...people.

A government built by people.. served by people.. and based around people.. is subject to the base desires, shortcomings and limitations, shortsighted greed of the very public it is trying to serve best.

That system of 'checks and balances' will only stand for so long before corruption topples the whole thing. But ya dont need me spouting common sense. One of these days in the future.. and many of those days in the past.. these things have happened. Pay attention to your history books and wall street journals. ;)

One possibly good caveat of this is that yes.. many of those inmates are better at dealing with the firearms in case of a new revolution. Get friendly with your inmate, lest his bullets get friendlier with you. :p
 
If they didn't take the laws against drugs to the point of stupidity they would have a lot less people in jail and wouldn't have an overcrowding problem to begin with.
 
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