Elduriel

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Didn't Alexis break up with him first because of her guilt over the Erynn stuff and it was up to us if we want to go to the bathroom to change her mind. Been awhile since I played it. Alexis is the one path I honestly can't recall the MC having any miss understanding , since it seems to be Alexis the one jumping to conclusions / making the impulsive decisions first to me.

So you make me curious if im forgetting something.
MC broke up with Lexi at the bar. Then at the pizzeria you have a couple prompts to help her with groceries, and forgive her at the car. She doesn't budge there. Then at their house you can go to her room and finally make up. The latter two locations both have options to permanently end her route.
 

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Didn't Alexis break up with him first because of her guilt over the Erynn stuff and it was up to us if we want to go to the bathroom to change her mind. Been awhile since I played it. Alexis is the one path I honestly can't recall the MC having any miss understanding , since it seems to be Alexis the one jumping to conclusions / making the impulsive decisions first to me.

So you make me curious if im forgetting something.
To paraphrase (I'll likely go back later), she's all we shouldn't be together because we'll hurt other people and if you go k and leave she'll be all wait, but it'll be too late cuz mc is gone.
 
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MC broke up with Lexi at the bar. Then at the pizzeria you have a couple prompts to help her with groceries, and forgive her at the car. She doesn't budge there. Then at their house you can go to her room and finally make up.
ah okay yeah I forgot about the bar part. but we all know she didn't budge at pizzeria because the MC ordered a pineapple pizza :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
 

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ah okay yeah I forgot about the bar part. but we all know she didn't budge at pizzeria because the MC ordered a pineapple pizza :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:
it was pepperoni ;) (the fucking things I sometimes remember about this game... and sometimes the things I don't)
 
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LSC82

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ok yea i fucked that conversation all the way up but, still happens the way I said lolz

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There's nothing more "women right?" than that...
"We need to stay away from each other"
"Ok i'll do that"
"No wait..."

Ps: It looks like she's finally getting over it if you ignore her from this point on.
In previous interactions she always had a depressed, "staring into the abyss", look on her face whenever she saw the MC.
This time she had a nice conversation at the bar, even making jokes about the fact that they fucked, talked about things with Lakeyin and stayed at the table for dinner... last time we were there she was "not hungry".

Only just now after you gave me the idea
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There must be so many "you listen to us Zach, unlike Zach" lol.
 
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To each their own I suppose, I've been in physical fights with friends before, it happens. We're still friends now, tempers flare and dumb things happen it's hardly the end of the world.
Wasn't just the case of a disagreement though. The whole story is a lot more premeditated.

There was a disagreement turned into a premade plan. Zach invited the MC to something he had planned that he wanted to do before him and his family left for spring break. MC gets into Zach's car for the plan who directly takes him to Ethan and his two goons. He then hits the MC after venting about all his issues of the MC stealing his girls. He then leaves the MC with Ethan and his two goons.

Getting into an altercation happens with friends, sometimes it can go over the top. But this was taken to a whole new level.
 

LSC82

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Wasn't just the case of a disagreement though. The whole story is a lot more premeditated.

There was a disagreement turned into a premade plan. Zach invited the MC to something he had planned that he wanted to do before him and his family left for spring break. MC gets into Zach's car for the plan who directly takes him to Ethan and his two goons. He then hits the MC after venting about all his issues of the MC stealing his girls. He then leaves the MC with Ethan and his two goons.

Getting into an altercation happens with friends, sometimes it can go over the top. But this was taken to a whole new level.
There was a level of resentment and jealousy in that "argument" that is hard to come back from, he blames the MC for all his problems.
I've got into scuffles with friends when i was younger... often over silly things like sports... none of those involved the guy saying how much he hates me and how all that's gone wrong in his life is my fault.

And furthermore now that he's back in town(after one week to think about things), he doesn't feel bad for his actions and wants to apologize, he sides with his new pal Ethan that openly says he plans to harm his old friend.

Summing it up... FUCK THIS GUY.
 

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There was a level of resentment and jealousy in that "argument" that is hard to come back from, he blames the MC for all his problems.
I've got into scuffles with friends when i was younger... often over silly things like sports... none of those involved the guy saying how much he hates me and how all that's gone wrong in his life is my fault.

And furthermore now that he's back in town(after one week to think about things), he doesn't feel bad for his actions and wants to apologize, he sides with his new pal Ethan that openly says he plans to harm his old friend.

Summing it up... FUCK THIS GUY.
This has gone way beyond a misunderstanding into a near aiding and abetting of Ethan's criminal activities.

(Or Ethan could set up Zach as a patsy, fall guy.)

And Zach's actions - even if they are unknowing and ignorant - will help endanger more people like Val, John and Iris.

This is no longer just a falling out between two former friends.
 

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This has gone way beyond a misunderstanding into a near aiding and abetting of Ethan's criminal activities.

(Or Ethan could set up Zach as a patsy, fall guy.)

And Zach's actions - even if they are unknowing and ignorant - will help endanger more people like Val, John and Iris.

This is no longer just a falling out between two former friends.
I agree, he came back and went straight for Ethan.
He's not thinking about apologizing, he teams up with a guy that openly wants to hurt his "friend".
He's helping Ethan and putting people(ones that are true friends of the MC) in harms way.

If later he sees Valeria or Erynn being harmed by Ethan, or someone somehow convinces him that Ethan is the bad one...
And Zach helps bring him down... Good for him i guess, but in terms of being a friend the damage is done.

No amount of sad, apologetic, faces will make me forget that he chose to trust this Ethan piece of shit over "me", and teamed up with him to screw me and my friends over.
 

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Wasn't just the case of a disagreement though. The whole story is a lot more premeditated.

There was a disagreement turned into a premade plan. Zach invited the MC to something he had planned that he wanted to do before him and his family left for spring break. MC gets into Zach's car for the plan who directly takes him to Ethan and his two goons. He then hits the MC after venting about all his issues of the MC stealing his girls. He then leaves the MC with Ethan and his two goons.

Getting into an altercation happens with friends, sometimes it can go over the top. But this was taken to a whole new level.
This definitely wasn't premeditated, Ethan had to tell Zach that it was MC that beat his ass in the scene with Erynn, Zach just took his internal resentment added it to one side of a story and went ape shit.

And furthermore now that he's back in town(after one week to think about things), he doesn't feel bad for his actions and wants to apologize, he sides with his new pal Ethan that openly says he plans to harm his old friend.
Maybe I'm forgetting something but when did he say he wants to hurt the MC?

I agree, he came back and went straight for Ethan.
He's not thinking about apologizing, he teams up with a guy that openly wants to hurt his "friend".
He's helping Ethan and putting people(ones that are true friends of the MC) in harms way.
Yep he went straight to Ethan, but we don't know the circumstances. It's pretty well known that Zach lacks the ability to self reflect or he would have guessed where his issues with women stem from by now, so he likely hasn't thought about it at all.

I'm not saying Zach isn't a jackass, he's definitely in the wrong, I'm just saying he's redeemable once he realizes whats actually going on.
 

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This definitely wasn't premeditated, Ethan had to tell Zach that it was MC that beat his ass in the scene with Erynn, Zach just took his internal resentment added it to one side of a story and went ape shit.

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Yep he went straight to Ethan, but we don't know the circumstances. It's pretty well known that Zach lacks the ability to self reflect or he would have guessed where his issues with women stem from by now, so he likely hasn't thought about it at all.
Zach leads MC directly to Ethan and his two goons, so what did he think would happen? A nice civilized conversation? I don't think anyone could be quite that ignorant.

And there was really no scuffle. It was one sucker punch by Zach after which the goons grab MC. Again, what did he think would happen before he buggered off into the building? Another nice civilized conversation?

Maybe I'm forgetting something but when did he say he wants to hurt the MC?
Zach doesn't explicitly say he wants to hurt the MC, Ethan directly and overtly implies it, and Zach asks essentially what the plan was.

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