Talk:DataLounge
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Non-encyclopedic info?
editDoes anyone else feel the four sub-sections of "Moderation and Rules" is un-encyclopedic? For instance, are there any references (in the real world, from WP:RS) to the sites "Tinhats/Prancing Ponies" section? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 16:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
References are needed
editThis article is desperately in need of references. I'm tempted to stub, as some of the references don't refer to DataLounge at all, just the origins of the jokes they supposedly have. In fact, I'm guessing the majority of the information in this article simply can't be sourced, since it isn't encyclopedic. AniMate 07:06, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Cleanup
editI was one of the people who worked on this article when it was first created two years ago. Back then I was completely unfamiliar with wikipedia policy. I am not anymore, and this article really is way overdue for a cleanup.
I'm removing several unsourceable sections that deal with living persons and pretty much flies in the face of the WP:Biographies of living persons policy, lacking WP:Reliable sources for WP:Verification.
Removing the "chalupa" section as it deals with unsorceable rumors about living persons. As far as I know no sources that are even close to passing WP:RS exist to verify anything in that section.
Also removing the "tinhat" section. The existence of the lotr rumours has been discussed in some reliable sources, though iI can't find anything in print at the moment, I know at least one of the actors has discussed them on a talk show. But as I recall datalounge has never been mentioned specifically. If these rumours are to be included anywhere on wikipedia (doubtful) it wouldn't be in this article.
Also removing the dakota fanning paragraph. While it is a description of a joke, I still don't think it's be compliant with WP:BLP. If there were reliable sources to assert the importance of this joke to datalounge culture it might be included, but there are none, and it's just one joke among many.
The "Sayings" and "Collaborative characters" sections are original research (though I guess their existence can sort of be verified by searching datalounge itself for each phrase.) But I'm leaving them be for now. They actually do a pretty good job of giving an idea what datalounge is all about, via examples. Siawase (talk) 13:19, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- I agree that they summarize datalounge rather well, but they're unsourceable. If they really were of note, someone would have written about them outside of the message boards. AniMate 21:16, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- Nod. While I personally think the article is more informational with those sections, I recognize that they fly in the face of core policies, and I won't challenge your deletion. Siawase (talk) 21:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- This page is in desperate need of clean up. I would like to do that, but because there are huge chunks that would probably require deletion, I don't really want to make those judgment calls and be accused of vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.157.104 (talk) 16:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
- Nod. While I personally think the article is more informational with those sections, I recognize that they fly in the face of core policies, and I won't challenge your deletion. Siawase (talk) 21:40, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Sourcing the "Posters of note" section
editThere's a mention of David Ehrenstein reading Datalounge here: [1] (also mirrored on his own site: [2]).
Jeannette Walls mentions Datalounge as late as 2008: [3] and has mentioned it in past columns, no longer available online it seems.
In both these cases I don't know if there are sources to assert the narrative of coming and goings from Datalounge as it is presented in the article now.
Neither of the sources used for the Michael Musto paragraph mentions Datalounge, but he has mentioned it several times in past columns. [4]
Unless someone finds better sources, the article here probably needs to be re-written to better reflect what the sources we do have actually say. Siawase (talk) 13:45, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Too much information
editThere's way too much stuff on this page for this particular website. It should be concise; it's not like it is some kind of extremely well known forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.1.177 (talk) 23:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Why is this such a large entry? This is not a particularly noteworthy site and it barely merits even a Wiki entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.198.113 (talk) 06:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me...lots of the details of site policies and speculation isn't cited, so it clearly a good place to start trimming. However, a brief mention that there is some sort of moderation/oversight or topic-restriction is good to keep--that's a factual statement that helps describe how this site fits into the world of other similar sites. Also, any event that is cited to some independent reference should stay. For example, if an interaction with another website or some on-site activity was significant enough to be reported in media, it is (perhaps one of the few!) things that really is notable enough to bother stating. DMacks (talk) 06:35, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
Notability tag
editLapadite77, can you expand on here why you think it lacks notability? Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:28, 4 June 2015 (UTC)
- Boleyn, sorry for the year-late reply. The subject does not meet Wikipedia:Notability (web) criteria, such as receiving significant, non-trivial coverage from independent sources. Lapadite (talk) 11:54, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Lapadite77, you may want to comment at the AfD. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 12:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
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Closed down?
editHas DataLounge shut down? It hasn't been active for several days. 2601:241:8102:221C:C9BB:9ABC:CC87:B305 (talk) 14:07, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
Trim
editI tried to trim back some of the more boring technical stuff. As others have said, it isn't really relevant or all that interesting. However, not sure if it exists elsewhere? It would be great if someone did a long exploration in an article on the site and its history, and some of this content could be included there. 2603:8001:2A00:7428:4C66:580A:8C74:D18A (talk) 16:14, 9 April 2021 (UTC)