Talk:Malaysian identity card

Place of birth

According to the article, the two numbers immediately after the date of birth in the IC number is the place of birth. I was just wondering - on my IC, it's 56 and I'm born in Kuala Lumpur (Hospital Besar Kuala Lumpur), yet the article states the number is 14.Rajan Rishayakaran 07:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

KLites usually get number 14. I am not sure about your situation though.--Zack2007 08:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Could be that the system ran out of 14's? For example, 71 ran out of numbers around the year 1998 or 1999, and IC holders born in US, UK, etc. are now assigned 91. Snow cat 05:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I don't believe that the list of BP in the article is complete. Update anyone? --Pavithran 20:03, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

The JPN site which is now available is helpful although doesn't list 71. However you can't run out of numbers for 71 for all time. You have around <=10000 (not sure if all are used) possible numbers for each birthdate including year for each country or state code. If there are more people born in one day from one state/country code then you need another one (actually due to the gender issue, you need another one if more then 5000 of either gender share the same birth date and code). However you would still use both for each date as needs be (in reality as the number of births various depending on the time of year and day of the week and there's also random variation only some dates will need the two numbers). It's pretty pointless bringing in another number and only using that, you end up back where you're started! Perhaps 71 used to be very broad and they abandoned it and started using more specific country codes? 91 BTW is for the US (+ Canada and Greenland), 87 is for the UK and Ireland. Nil Einne (talk) 13:56, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Brunei

"From January 2003, MyKad was available to citizens of Brunei."

The above statement is incorrect. Actually, MyKad is the name of the Malaysian Identification card. In Brunei, this Identification card is called 'Kad Pengenalan Pintar,' meaning 'Smart Indentification Card.' This was introduced in BRunei in 2000 but making it possibly the 1st country in the world to introduce it. Phases of upgrading the old identification card to the new ones were done from August 2000 to September 2001 were done and by January 2002, all of the Identication Cards are of the new 'Kad Pengenalan Pintar.'

But the gov't here in brunei didn't make huge fuss about it and didn't wanna proudly declare that they are the 1st country to implement it in the world. Only in 2005, only that Frequent border crossers Malaysians can enter Brunei using the My KAd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.6.254.3 (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

A reference would be helpful — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nil Einne (talk • contribs) 18:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

The article seems to imply that the Kad Pengenalan Pintar is compatible with MyKad (ie the same card issued by a different government). Is this accurate or is Kad Pengenalan Pintar an entirely different card? Robert Brockway 18:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Religion

Information on race and religion is included in the MyKad although they are only stored on the chip, and are not physically printed. There have been numerous errors, of up to 25% in one church congregation, in the religion field, leading to speculation of a conspiracy to mark non-Muslim cardholders as Muslim[1]. Those whose religion had been recorded incorrectly might have had to pay a fee, or undergo tedious negotiations including the production of baptismal certificates or other letters, to fix their information. In December 2005, the government apologized for the problems caused and attempted to rectify the correction procedure by providing a single form, Form A. The main cause of the problem was probably that, depending on the way one applied for the MyKad, such information was not always entered.

I was under the impression it was printed if you were a Muslim (which was one of the biggest problems). Also, is it true that race (I assume Chinese, India, Malay or Other) and religion (meaning other then Muslim or not) is included on the chip? If it's just Muslim/non-Muslim and/or if it's printed on the card, this needs to be corrected/clarified. Nil Einne 18:36, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

It is not true that only Malay Muslim has their religion printed on the front side of MyKad. Other race which their religion is Muslim is also printed with their religion info on the front side of MyKad. Other information such as religion other than Islam, race, surname, passport number, driving licence information, bank number information, voters locality (which is not active yet), health information (currently used in Selayang and Putrajaya hopital only) is recorded inside the chip. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.186.210.11 (talk) 03:06, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't think any said it was only Malay Muslims... However it's true AFAIK that Islam is the only religion ever printed on the card and this caused controversy for various reasons. BTW you are right about race and religion being stored in the chip. I actually had a printout of my MyKad at the time I believe but forgot about it and now have checked my MyKad with a reader and can confirm the info is stored. Nil Einne (talk) 13:45, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Blood type

See Talk:National identification number for why it's unlikely blood type has anything to do with the number Nil Einne 12:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Structure of the National Registration Identity Card Number (NRIC)

Policemen and armed forces is assigned with the unique digit, 88 and 99 respectively throughout their term of service.

I've noticed that this isn't true. Examining a few MyTentera cards the PB is actually the place of birth rather than 88 or 89. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pengtuck (talk • contribs) 06:31, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

An edit by 49.245.72.212 at 15:27, 25 April 2022 (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Malaysian_identity_card&oldid=1084566743) for the aforementioned section (emphasis in italics):

G, the 12th digit represents the gender of the person. The odd numbers 1 / 3 / 5 / 7 / 9 denote male while the even numbers 2 / 4 / 6 / 8 / 0 denote female. This is a myth that has been debunked by the home minister of Malaysia in 2017. The last 4-digits are computer generated and not indicative of gender. Many Malaysians received the ID number that is not represented by the format above.

1. Confuses the reader when read with its existing preceding sentences.
2. Does not cite any reliable sources for any of its claims:

   * claim #1: Pertaining to the numerical format
   * claim #2: Credible media/news sources reporting other many cases of Malaysian receiving numbers non-conforming to the aforementioned format/structure.

Upon some quick web searches found only 1 source for said claim, comes from a deputy minister's remark/comment when asked to comment on an issue of a woman with the wrong last digit on her ID, which he pledges to clarify with the national registry department. All other online sources cite this article and there is no mention in mainstream Malaysian press/online news nor there are follow up news reporting on the outcome.

The fact that there is no official documentation/statement by JPN (Malaysian National Registration Department) on their official website on the structure of the MyKad numerical format to date (2023) makes this somewhat hard to verify definitively.

C.M. Au Yong (talk) 07:29, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

References

Bias towards current identification card

It occurs to me too much emphasis is given towards a card system that was only introduced very recently during the 2000s. In comparison to the original IC said to be introduced in 1949, this is rather bias towards present registration systems. For that reason, wouldn't it be a good idea to rename this article to "Identity documents in Malaysian" (per "Identity documents in the United States"), write some on the MyKad's precedences (particularly the cards' design, regulations, numbering) and other identity documents (driver's license, birth certificate and passport), and converting the current contents of this article into a section? - Two hundred percent 10:38, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

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###G

The article says "###G represents a randomly generated serial number. The last digit, G denotes the gender of the holder: odd numbers for males and even numbers for females" Is this true? I was under the impression it was somewhat incremental i.e. those who got their MyKad later compared to others born on the same day with the same state or country code would get a later number. It may also be somewhat in batches so it'll depend on where you got your MyKad. In other words it's not random but depends on when and perhaps where you MyKad number was generated. I don't really know for sure and I doubt this could be sourced but the article says it's random and this doesn't appear to have a citation. Incidentally I'm surprised there's no check digit, I'd thought for a while there was it just wasn't widely published but it seems unlikely there is since the JPA is now talking about the numbers but didn't mention a check digit. Nil Einne (talk) 14:05, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

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False Kad Raja Kho Lam Alif Yah

Menggunakan app KDN pemilik dan melakukan jenayah dalam Ubah Suai dan Memasukkan Identiti Orang Lain Dan Menama Kan Dalam Simpanan Harian Dan Keluarga. 60.50.88.171 (talk) 19:26, 23 December 2023 (UTC)