Talk:Mira Murati

The article is full of contradictions

The "Early life" section says she's born in 1986 and attended the university of Tirana and MIT, studying computer science. The box and the "Education" section say that she was born in 1988 and attended Dartmouth to study mechanical engineering. PT Mann (talk) 09:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Issues are fixed now.--FeralOink (talk) 05:20, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Mira Murati did not go to UWC

I think there's been a mixup between Murati and Ermira Murati (https://www.davisuwcscholars.org/scholars/2011/m/node/2059). Ermira went to UWC Pearson and graduated from Colby College in 2011. Mira Murati graduated from Dartmouth in 2012. 172.58.89.211 (talk) 18:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

It's certainly possible there's confusion - public bios that don't seem cribbed from Wikipedia are sparse - but she is listed as Ermira in various formal/official contexts that I imagine she would have directly edited or approved:

https://www.amacad.org/person/ermira-murati

https://direct.mit.edu/daed/article/151/2/156/110626/Language-amp-Coding-Creativity

https://schedule.sxsw.com/2019/speakers/2008932

(in all of those cases it's unambiguously the subject of the article, with explicit mention of OpenAI).

On Linkedin, she is also a member of a "United World Colleges (Alumni)" group, which indicates at least some connection to UWCs.

Furthermore, it is possible to get a Dual degree from Colby and Dartmouth: https://www.colby.edu/academics/departments-and-programs/engineering-dual-degree-programs/ Dotx3 (talk) 20:31, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

I checked carefully. She *did* attend UWC (a two year, pre-college program). Dotx3 is correct.--FeralOink (talk) 05:22, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

For further clarity: "Mira" seems to be simply a diminutive of "Ermira". Same person. (Also, in addition to being an alumna of UWC's IB program, it appears that her American university studies were indeed funded by a UWC Davis grant – no small feat, either. We could probably add this back to the article.) Curious to see what she does next. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 22:18, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

The Dartmouth website states that Murati "attended Colby College as a Davis UWC Scholar and simultaneously earned her AB from Colby and a BE from Dartmouth as a dual-degree student at Thayer School of Engineering." Can we now park this matter and accept that she attended these institutions, earned the relevant degrees, etc.? (The same source also mentions that she received an honorary Doctor of Science in June 2024.) -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:37, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Edit war

Looks like there's an edit war about her heritage. People continue adding the claim that she's "Indian Albanian" with no source and it rightly gets removed every time. Surely this page should be protected? 81.2.103.240 (talk) 03:35, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Age of subject

We have one source that says she was born in 1986 (Global Woman Magazine), another that says 1988 (Forbes India), and our infobox says 1980. Which is correct? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 11:06, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

Merge proposal

I request the Arabic version of the article about Mira Murati be merged with this article. As of now, when searching for the Arabic language article, it doesn't appear, even though it exists. Thanks. FlantasyFlan (talk) 06:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

OpenAI section is not encyclopedic

The OpenAI section of this article, in particular the first paragraph thereof, reads like a newspaper puff piece, or a conference speaker section. The language used is not encyclopedic, referring to Ms. Murati being "instrumental" in the absence of supported citations, or, the most egregious example: "Her work includes pushing the boundaries of machine learning while advocating for the responsible and ethical use of AI technologies." Khavakoz (talk) 20:04, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Khavakoz, how would you like to improve the syntax? As written, there's perhaps a bit of puffery, to be sure, though most of the sources tend to treat her in a similarly idolatrous manner. One way or another, the NPOV tag placed at the start of July ought to be addressed or removed. Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 20:49, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

• Comment: Please see Template:POV (This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article). -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 14:26, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
  

This tag has now been commented out. Please review template documentation before reinserting. Thank you. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 05:54, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Khavakoz, I've gone ahead and removed the POV template and the Citation needed tags (though I added Template:Expand section, a Better source tag, and some commentary which I hope addresses your concerns). Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 06:34, 23 August 2024 (UTC)