Talk:Vacation
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Usage and length
editUK and elsewhere
editVacation is used in places other than North America... to describe pre-organised time away from the job or school. I'm not sure about England, but Australians use this term quite frequently. ---
I've lived in Australia for 45 years and had employment for 30; I've never heard someone refer to holidays as vacation neither officially, unofficially, in the media or popular culture. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozijim (talk • contribs) 01:13, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
Vacation is used in the UK when referring to time away from University. "Work to do over the vacation period", "Vacation essay" etc.
A user added this, which I moved here to talk. He's right, of course, but the comment belongs here. – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 02:28, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)
- One good way to find out what a good vacation is, would be to take about 2 weeks off from your job, leave the TV, DVD, and lap top behind, drive to the Outer Banks, kick back and just enjoy the sea air, salt spray, the seagulls, the waves, the sand, and just relax. Now that's a vacation!
Canada
editAn interesting article on vacation can be found on the CBC Web site here: http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/work/vacation.html
Spain
editIn Spain there is not a 30 calendar day vacation by law... e.g. I've got 22 working days by contract so, where have you find that?
France
editThe amount of vacation is France is a very famous "social troll", so Wikipedia should take care about that. I think the info in the article is wrong (5 weeks + 2 weeks of RTT) or at least biased. RTT indeed means "Réduction du temps de travail", ("working time reduction", something like that). Let me try to explain that in a simple way (not so easy with a french bureaucratic feature): since a couple of years, the normal weekly work time is 35h in France. If your contract is based on these 35 weekly hours, you will only have 5 weeks (i.e. ~ 25 days) of vacation. But if your contract is an "old" contract, it can be based on the former 39 weekly hours: you can then have these 2-weeks RTT compensation, that cannot be really considered as holidays (generally, you can't put several of these days in the same week). Thus, the correct vacations in France are 5 weeks for a normal contract, + 2 weeks if you have to work 39h/week. It is less than in some nordic country, such as Sweden (37.5h weekly, + 28 to 32 days of vacation depending on your age): the fact that France is the country where you work the less is a urban legend (I can testify, since I'm french and I'm working in Sweden: they are really doing nothing here --and you have to consider these crazy 6-month parental vacation both for the father and the mother!). This urban legend has been spread for political purposes (as a justification for going back to the 39h/week for instance), but it is not the role of WP to state it without any sources. 130.238.37.117 16:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC) and Arnaudus on WP:fr.
Japan
editI think this is incorrect. My Japanese friends say it is 2 weeks, and I've never heard of a single instance where anyone has been able to take it off consecutively. If you ask for the full two weeks, you'll get a lot of pressure from your employer. Plus most Japanese work long hours: Until 8:30PM or 10-11PM every night. So where does that 5 week figure come from? I've never heard of it. It seems very unlikely, and certainly isn't the current situation. I'm guessing someone took a wild guess. [Anon. 5:02 18 December 2006 (UTC)]
popular culture
editMaybe it is worth mentioning in The Outfield's song "Your Love" that the term vacation is used despite the fact that the band is English. Celtic Emperor 20:48, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Expansion request
editSo much could be said about vacations, vacation spots, vacation days, etc. Surely the topic deserves more than a paragraph. – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 20:51, Sep 27, 2004 (UTC)
active vacation
editThe article Recreation contained a link to active vacation, but I couldn't find anything about it on Wikipedia. Do we really not have anything yet?
Out of Office/Out of Facility
editA link has been made to this page from the DAB page Oof, relating to Out of Office/Out of Facility, implying on vacation. I'm not convinced this link is fully justified, but if editors of this page feel it is, perhaps they might consider expanding this page to accommodate that topic, then reducing the text and reference that has been inappropriately included in the DAB page. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
needs history section
editneeds history section--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:55, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
Regional meaning
editThe Vanderbilts, Rockefellers, Carnegies, Huntingtons and other fabulously wealthy industrialists built their own spectacular "great camps" in the Adirondacks of upstate New York where they could spend time with their families in private luxury. The scions of New York City took to declaring that they would "vacate" their city homes for their lakeside summer retreats, and the term "vacation" replaced the British "holiday" in common parlance.
I think this sentence is not written in a style suitable for an Encyclopedia because it is suggestive and unnecessarily decorated ("fabulous", "spectacular", "The scions of New York City", etc.). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tantalum53 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
"Impact of digital communications" section
editI have moved this section, as the previous placement only second after "Etymology" was apportioning it far too much weight. Even as it is, to claim that is is, "now the norm in North America and the United Kingdom, to carry on working or remain on call while on vacation rather than abandon work altogether" is pretty ridiculous. It doesn't apply to anyone working in manufacturing, retail, or most service industries, and it is not even ubiquitous for office workers. In other words, it only applies to a small minority. Nick Cooper (talk) 07:49, 11 March 2021 (UTC)