What is “gravitic propulsion” and could the US government hide it?
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The Cybertruck bomber’s mention of a “gravitic device” ignited rumours that the U.S. government might be trying to hide developments in physics, similar to what it did when the country was developing the nuclear bomb. Would that even be possible? Here’s what I think.
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I'm reading a book about anti-gravity and I just can't put it down!
Can you please share the name of the book?
@@hfhfhf11 woosh, its a joke.
😂👍🏼
For those wondering, the answer to gravitic propulsion is superconductors. It's not theoretical...
Is there lots of studies and proving it ?@@lava_torrent8384
I've been affected by gravity for over 65 years and I'm tired of it.
Gravity is the main oppressive device of all governments.
I'm down with it.
Me too, it hurts my knees.
It's been 69 for me, and I have no problem with it. I like not floating away into the vacuum.
I go out there every day and defeat gravity by getting hopping mad about it, but conversations like this always bring me down.
Eric said it clearly: just change physics. Build something (unspecified) to do something (unspecified) that hasn’t been built before. Easy peezy
This reminds me of when Professor Farnsworth stated they increased the speed of light in 2208, because traveling faster than light was impossible so this was the only alternative.
@@DKNguyen3.1415 Hubert J! One of the most quotable scientific minds of all future! It’s about time he started showing up in dissertation bibliographies.
@@DKNguyen3.1415 Let us pray to the almighty Atheismo!
Everything out of that guys mouth is nonsense
@@DKNguyen3.1415 So what you're saying is, if we want to unlock the possibilities of space travel, we need to stop moving ourselves through the universe and instead move the universe around our ships?
Personally, I like to hide my secret maths in an unknown place, and especially one that is undetectable by modern science.
So far, so good. I've had excellent success.
I invented an "Antigravity Ball," but I accidentally let go of it. .............. _Now it's gone!_ 😥
😅
@@SabineHossenfelder Love your channel, Sabine! You're also a character in my latest cartoon! ruclips.net/video/0FX14MdcSNQ/видео.html
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poor ball. destined to forever alone gravity bouncing away from anything other than itself. Oh the poetic tragedy...
Was it full of helium? Or full of *itself* ?
When I was in school I always wished they would hide the maths.
LOL
I will answer all my math homework problems with "It's Classified"
It may be hidden, but its waiting to be uncovered, and someone will uncover it, and will use it against you. So put aside your playstation for the rest of this afternoon and make an effort to add one plus one. You'll find it useful sooner than later.
I wish they’d hide tax return maths
Pythagoras theorem should have been classified
Joe the not scientist asks "from an engineering perspective, how do you make any of this happen?" Eric the scientist says, "you would build something that did something.." what an upside down world.
I mean if he knew how to do it, he'd do it in his garage. It wouldn't be considered a secret.
To be fair, that method can solve virtually all problems, you just have to fill in the details.
I was impressed with Joe for that one, he could smell the bs.
That is an exercise left to the listener.
I don't know. I read your comment by using some device that did something - so that means devices that do things must exist.
It is well known that in 1985, Dr. Emmitt (Doc) Brown discovered anti gravity and time travel with his invention the "Flux Capacitor".
Flux Capacitor = Rare Earth Magnet?
This is heavy
Do not forget your inertial dampeners or your vessel and everything in it will atomically separate! This is harder than quote/un quote anti-gravity, or perhaps negative gravity would be more accurate. Such things require some condemned futuristic power technologies. Although time travel is "mathematically possible". This Does not mean all things mathematically possible are truly possible, mathematics were invented by humans to solve complex problems. It was publicly declared already that china had the ability to modify gravity using technology but it requires VAST amounts of power for very little effect. Rumours of US technology in "anti-gravity" have existed for nearly a century...
@ Precisely 1.21 gigawatts to be exact.
There is more to the flux capacitor than you think!
Eric and Joe remind me of the conversations we used to have as 18 year olds smoking pot.
DUDE??!?!
But they're 8-year-olds on pot... So... magic magaLOWmaniac thinking takes over.
Some of the best conversations....
The root Rogan's formula for a conversation
Anyone seen my car? Big night.
Well, to be fair, there are classified mathematics and physics. The NSA employs something like 10 universities worth of mathematicians, and all their work is classified.
1:26 German physicists secretly aiding the US Government in top secret military projects LOL! Like that would ever happen!
And despite all of that, simple gravity is the free energy that we've all been waiting for. They've had a gravity train for years that operates on 0 fuel with this super high tech feature: lifting up one side of the track
@@sneakytown it's most likely just a magnetic rail running on electricity...
@@atlucas1it did many many time already haven’t you read up on history
@@williamdawes8553 I think he's being sarcastic. Project Paper Clip was exactly that after WW2.
I get down a hill on skis with gravitic propulsion. Just the other day, my grandma flew down the stairs under its power. It's amazing!
"...grandma flew"
There was absolutely nothing aerodynamic about that event.
I have misused gravity several times, That kind of pain can humble you.
Okayyy ...sooo....there are no emoticons to express the way i 'm feeling right now...
She was pushed down the stairs?
The trick with flying is always falling but missing the ground somehow
I’m all for gravity. It keeps me grounded.
In order to 'think outside of the box', it helps to know what box you're thinking in to begin with.
yup. Want to advance a field of science, go and get a degree in it first.
If you believe in boxes
Outside the box? Some of us can't find the box.
I tried thinking outside the box. but next time it want be at the theatre.
@@RobardoHughes My point exactly. I've found it to be enlightning to make an inventory of everything I don't know. It's a bit depressing at first, but after a while it shows things I didn't know I don't know, because I thought I did know them, and it's that kind of non-knowledgable knowing that prohibits learning. Hopefully not too abstract?
A big problem with Eric W is that he ends his non-explanation with a snide "your not smart enough to understand". I am smart enough to understand that he is just bullshitting with his theories.
I'm not sure about his theories, but both W brothers come off as people who think they are smarter than the rest of humanity
@@la7era1u54 Literally built a career bullshitting.
Don't underestimate your ability to spot bullshitting. I applaud it because it's becoming rare. And this is not sarcasm!
as you approach the singularity, it really does feel weird.
Intelligence if often compartmentalized. He's clearly very smart in some areas. That doesn't mean that in other areas he's not a raving idiot.
His claims here lack all of the signs of intelligence: they are sweeping, vague, missing anything specific.
"If we can play with these forces as variables not as constants, we can do so much."
And if pigs had wings, they could fly. But they don't, and they can't.
In Swedish, "Hvis og hvis min røv er spids og fyldt med marmelade."
Or, "If and if my ass is pointy and full of marmalade."
In German, "Wenn das Wörtchen wenn nicht wär, wär mein Vater Millionär."
Or, "If that little word "if" did not exist, my father would be a millionaire."
Good to see someone treating this situation with the gravity it deserves.
Massively underradii’ded comment.
And making some levity in the process...
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Thanks!
"When I began my physical studies [in Munich in 1874] and sought advice from my venerable teacher Philipp von Jolly...he portrayed to me physics as a highly developed, almost fully matured science...Possibly in one or another nook there would perhaps be a dust particle or a small bubble to be examined and classified, but the system as a whole stood there fairly secured, and theoretical physics approached visibly that degree of perfection which, for example, geometry has had already for centuries." - Max Planck, 1924
And you'd need a Planck or Maxwell or Einstein to make that extra leap. Are there any right now working in this field?
@@thekaxmaxWe won’t know their names until they’re successful
@@thekaxmax We don't need the world's most intelligent people looking for advances in fields where advancements occurred in the last hundred years. We need them looking for advances in fields where they aren't expected.
Hubris, it's always hubris.
If physicists wanted us to believe they weren't conspiring with the government. They shouldn't have Manhattan project. Just saying.
That oscillator circuit at 9:13 is amusing. I am a Power Electronics engineer and I have an intest in the history of this technology. This circuit shown is equivalent to what would be considered state of the art in around the 1870's. Technology has moved on quite a bit since then withe the advent of the thermionic vacuum tube and then all that semiconductor stuff.
Yeah, that schematic ... lol. Brushes and car lamps.
I guess the crucial part is Cx, which is a "varicondenser".
If you don't have a varicondenser, don't worry. A Hawaiian pizza works just as well.
I was looking for this comment. lol
I watch the Asianometry RUclips channel for his modern semiconductor fab content. The tech and methods they use today are incomprehensible to basically everyone, including me. The processors in our phones are virtually at the physical limit of what's possible in our Universe. It's mind-blowing, and completely mundane simultaneously. I'm sure they'd have discovered antigravity if it was there to be found.
@@AvenEngineeryeah this is my area of specialty in power semiconductor device research
Yep, especially when guys like Salvatore Pais talk about 100Terahertz. Even GaN will have trouble up at those freqs.
I mean regardless there are plenty of technologows that was invented much earlier then their actual proper usage was found, like Stirling engines for example. Invented 200 years ago and only recently have they been useful in super efficient nuclear vacuum engines for space.
Bohm’s PhD thesis was classified and he wasn’t even able to finish his research, but was awarded the PhD.
Yeah, and they kicked him out of the country, and he went to Brazil. That was a big mistake.
@@1800imawake 'Cause his work with DeBroglie (Pilot Wave Theory) put the lie to the Copenhagen interpretation that the establishment had decided to run with already.
Yeah, but he’s on a podcast with plenty of people believing him. Sounds eerily familiar with someone high up in office??
THEY DID THAT TO MY FRIEND'S HUSBAND. He did a PhD in computer science. A calculator gives all coordinates but we are told we can only find the coordinates for a few polygons physically. Then there is the neural significance of 256 colours.
My mind glazes over whenever I hear the term spacetime .Two words that represent infinite nulls jammed together as if that makes them something. It's a scam people a scam.
“Hey Joe can I come on your podcast?” We need this, let Joe go down the list of wild misconceptions and finally get some clarity from Sabine.
agreed, the best description of joe ive seen is comparing him to a feudal lord who got an interest in learning and invites wizards to his yurt to explain why the sky is blue and where the sun goes at night. all the wacky people he brings on are a feature, not a bug, of the process of hewing closer and closer to truth
@@PeterDanielBerg I love that analogy so much. Don't remember where I first saw it but it's brilliant.
You can't talk sense to far-right propagandists. They are not paid to engage in truthful dialogue they are paid to mislead cretins.
He wouldn't understand. What little natural intelligence he had was rotted by pot, special k, and steroids.
@@taylankammer Isaiah 11:6 perhaps?
Wow, the conehead conversation was indeed surrealistic.. he petted his own leg like he was checking on Schrödingers cat
Thanks
Don't forget, it is illegal in the US to have a engine above certain levels of efficiency, it's a real law, that has been enforced countless times, any one caught making anything that improves engine efficiencies in a breakthrough, has gotten visits, threats, classified, then they disappear. The military usually employs this where they can for their own toys. No one wants to be a "conspiracy theorist", but the patterns are obvious, and at this point you're simply recognizing it.
Brilliant observation. And in this Reddit-like community, brave! There are soooo many examples of this to date. Along with the FACT that there are soooo many examples of classified / confiscated patents. This practice (by our govt) goes back many decades. As an ex Air Force engineer, I’ve had many many conversations with old engineers back in my younger days, who told me some very “wild” stories from their experiences that sold me on the hidden technologies. In many cases they were matter of fact about it and shared their theories as to why our govt would not (at that time) release such to the public. After my time in the AF I’ve come across only more examples of civilians losing their work, credibility and even lives because they pursued inventions that are outright discouraged by the powers that be. What I’d love is a show where she addressed these facts
It's more than engines, its ANYTHING that upsets the "economic status quo" greed
If it was a real law- why wouldn't they criminally prosecute the person instead of as you are saying threatening or harming the person?
Didn't Douglas Adams predict exactly this? The Bistromathic drive was a faster-than-light propulsion system that emerged from the complex calculations needed to tally restaurant bills. So the complex system resulted in new physics to travel large distances quickly.
And, it came about because physicists weren't invited to those kinds of parties?
Nothing changed there ..., I can't imagine Sabine dancing on a table top, anywhere in the visible universe.
Indeed the infinite improbability drive.
@@rbaxter286that was the improbability drive that used tea, bistromathics was the next discovery
Bistromathics requires prior experience with both the Special and General Theories of Disaster Area Tax Returns.
Thanks for reminding me it was over restaurant bills. I enjoy guessing the bill before it comes. I'm usually very close.
Thing is, we've had gravity propulsion forever...
Push a boulder off the cliff. It moves as if by magic toward the canyon floor.
ACME sells a mail order kit.
Comes with a tiny umbrella and a small sign that says, "help!."
Meep Meep
Back in the 1960s, if you looked in the back of Analog magazine, you could find an ad tor an antigravity device that you could buy. I always figured that if I had sprung for that (it was only a few dollars, IIRC), I would have gotten a coathanger.
Nikola Motors had a truck with a gravitic propulsion system, and they went into bancrupcy. (Don't get hung up on the details that the rolled a non functioning truck down a hill to make it seem like it actually can drive.)
Nice.
Gravity is a contributing factor in nearly 73 percent of all accidents involving falling objects. ~ Dave Barry
My son is a passionate drone flyer, making nice, magical videos with these devices. Now I have the suspicion, that he works for the chinese secret service. I love this video and your work on anti-gravity, thank you.
PS.: So foxy that you disguise your intelligence activity with a German accent😂.
I am very tempted to buy a drone. I actually have one, but it's fairly old and hard to maneuver and I crashed it into the bushes a few times. 😂
@SabineHossenfelder do urself a delight and buy one with camera headset; should be worth it for a play around; maybe even discover an artistic touch over its flying and video making; if you do buy a full set please do an insight video on it; make sure you get a decent range one, at least 2.5 miles range or even 5 miles range; verify in case of sudden rain how it behaves and also get a second battery pack if possible; if you would be passionate about outdoors nature viewing check if it can be made to run a bit silent so u dont scare the wild life; money wise fuck money and just get the professional stuff.
Side note: why not treat urself with some 10 k meters assisted plane jump?
Too old to jump off a plane? Too old to pay 4k on a drone setup? Never. Dont be greedy and share experience. Enjoy
@@SabineHossenfelder This summer I bought the DJI Avata 2 with FPV goggles, and I’m having a blast with it! Highly recommend!
You know these guys are nuts .Why you bother with pretentious tweps?
@@drazenimoti1223a lot cheaper that getting a “real” pilot’s licence.
Gravitic Propulsion has always been the most reliable method of keeping me regular.
Sabine said everything one would expect an agent for us government would say....
Sabine Hossenfelder The Sole Authority On Anything & Everything!
But she lives and works in EU so that doesn't fly
@mikhail_fil Sabine is a zenithist. believing everything in physics has already been discovered like von jolly in 1874
@@JohnKuhles1966 way false
@@car9167 You think location means ANYTHING?
It's a shame the FBI have threatened you into saying they didn't threaten you.
The increasing rarity of new discoveries is just how discoveries work in every field. Early paleontologists found bones literally sticking out of the ground and every single one was a monumental find that described something new and huge. Once the surface is picked over you have to start digging and finds become statistically more likely to be something you already know.
This is the same for ore mines and oil fields. Eventually you cross the threshold where the goodies are hidden in places that were not economically viable to look before and you need better technology and more time and effort to extract the stuff.
Sanding a piece of wood, weeding a garden, restoring an old watch, these are all the same principle of diminishing returns. You discover all the big stuff first because it's the most obvious and because it requires the least amount of effort per unit of result.
I appreciated that perspective. Thanks Sabine
The same is now happening with computer hardware.
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A friend and I saw an aircraft/UFO that I later found out looks similar to something called the Tr3-B. Look it up.
It was Groton Connecticut 2006ish. It hovered silently for 5 minutes in the night sky where I could see the silhouette, and lights. 3 lights each corner with one weird one in the middle.
After 5 minutes of us being like what is that. It took off like a bullet suddenly. Not a rocket or aircraft. I saw no plume or heard anything.
It headed north before heading over the tree line, and then suddenly popped out heading east. That turn must have been HARD. It was only out of sight for a moment!
Then it went over the horizon. The entire process took under 10 seconds from hovering to over the horizon.
We could never figure out if was small, and silent. Or large, and high up. Yet just last year Sandboxx news Alex Hollins told his story of seeing one too which is just insane. He is a respected journalist. He said it was massive!
I cannot explain that, and I won't. My friend says aliens, or dimensional beings. I don't know about that.
I think Alex, my friend, and I saw the same thing. Yet I can't be certain if Alex saw a different craft.
I swear by this story. Things like that make me agnostic life, and my friend crazy, lol. I just hope it is ours. Never seen any real UFO again sadly.
But we know that we still don't know a lot of things. And maybe we can never know everything.
Also, our resources are growing exponentially, and our tools are getting better too. So It would make sense to still discover things at the same pace. We do find bones regularly btw., and even entire cities. And there are still plenty of places we haven't even looked yet, like Antarctica.
Yes, but no. There is a world of information just below the surface that has not yet been discovered in terms of Dinosaurs, Rome, Germania, The Celts, the Chinese, the... everything. There is SO MUCH their. Discovering it requires two things: Passion, and incentive. Beyond this though - if we consider the average total man hours per discovery and track that over time, it's stayed relatively consistent for millennia really. The amount of people relative to the total populace doing research is small - and while research and discovery is more difficult then say 500 years ago, we have far better tools for doing that discovery.
So the question: What is going on? To understand: We have to understand what drove funding and research in the past - vs. what drives it today.
In the past: Military interest, and wealthy people interested in a topic. Today: It's mostly driven through political interest, and while there is still military interest - that military interest has been diminished mostly to the realm of the militaries own capability.
Historically, Military interest would include, but not necessarily limited to: Ancient cultural finds, Geological surveys, understanding local flora/fauna, potential resource deposits, and more. Why this fell away is largely in the post WWII era - we shifted from a dominate, colonize, exploit operation and we shifted to a Trade based relations operational process. After all: If you aren't planning to occupy a region - you don't need justification such as "Our ancestors lived their".
Today: Military interest - was basically replaced by Political interest, and from this we have seen a complete disregard to studies that even suggest something other then human sources are driving climate change. We see string theory dominate the field through funding grabs as compared to every other form of theoretical physics stifling potential discovery. And the list keeps on going.
When you politicize something, and create a bureaucratic process - when every research paper needs to deal in some way with climate to get funding - good research is stifled, in favour of people more able and tuned into the political BS. And as a result: Less good science gets done.
I'm fascinated how people gravitate to different fields of study and different personality profiles.
Sabine on JRE would be hilarious ngl
He loves to bring in all the conspiracists, its more exciting
She deserves better.
It would be like a Placozoa trying to interview Einstein.
I want Philomena Cunk to interview Sabina. My mate Paul
More like irritating for a scientist to deal with a flamboyant entertainer
There was math removed from my answers in math exams by the us government
That’s why my grades where mediocre
Same. I’d be a world famous physicist if the government hadn’t gotten to my teachers first.
would you care to put a probability on that? Go on, you can do it.............
From what I have read, "antigravity" was pioneered by Towsend Brown of the US Navy. He performed experiments with levitating crafts containing high voltage capacitors. However the forces experienced in these experiments were almost certainly due to the generation of ions from the air due to the high voltages used.
There's lots more out there.
@@MR-nl8xrreproduce it
thats what they publically claim. how do you know it is purely from ions? I havent seen anyone test this in a vacuum, and creating a vacuum is difficult and expensive. a perfect vacuum also is not necessary. if the force is because of ions, it should be much, much lower in a chamber with very little air molecules inside.
The force was from ions, but he didn’t ever levitate any craft
@@Scissors69 according to authorities. you dont know if he levitated anything, your just reading from wikipedia.
As always thank you for injecting science into this.
I am love with the mind of Sabine Hossenfelder. Years ago while living in Wiesbaden, Germany I had the opportunity to attend a German university for free for the first year while I worked on my German language skills. How wonderful it would have been to sit in on a lecture from Dr Hossenfelder. Thank you for the videos!
@ 3:23 : "You would build something, based on new plans that did something that nothing else could do." ROFL! I seriously rolled so out loud for over a minute.
ruclips.net/video/8TYMQOUDQBo/видео.html
@@HansImWald Though several approved patents, zero working prototypes for any of his ideas. Approved patents simply mean that no one has had a similar idea approved before. If I wanted to pay the price, I could have any wacky idea patented. Here, too, it boils down to "You would build something based on new plans that did something that nothing else could do". Gobbledygook.
That sounds like a roundabout way of saying "It's classified."
I know right? Reminds me of the Wright brothers, those couple of kooks, thinking they can just "make" a flying machine 🤣
For the video reference in this thread to Salvatore Pais - several granted patents - no prototypes. A granted patent only means no one else submitted the idea - the USPTO does not screen patent applications for any kind of feasibility in the real world. Anyone can submit any idea for a patent... if they are willing the pay the price of filing a patent application.
The thing with searching for new physics in chemistry is that finding weird stuff isn't the exception but the rule - and when something unexplainable happens it's not a source of excitement but "shot we have to try a different way"
Sabine, I appreciate your willingness to explore fringe concepts and discuss the gap between what we think might be possibe and what science can prove is possible. Your openness is refreshing!
She is not open enough and exercises willful blindness to certain developments in physics.
2:16 Stumbling his words, self soothing by stroking his leg. What he's thinking and what he's saying probably don't match.
Yeah he is spitting bs and he knows it
I think a good example of emergent behavior is twisted graphene layers with the 1.8 degree magic angle of twist.
is that what was in the video? or was that just a plain carbon nanotube?
@@KristopherNoronha No, it wasn't in the video. The subject of emergent of behavior just reminded me of this. You can try search for the words 2D graphene and magic angle. It's graphene sheets, not nanotubes.
Very excited to that Sabine talking about this! It's going to be an exciting year for sure.
Gravitic propulsion means that no one needs to be paying a utility bill to live on the planet they were born on.
I have invented a method of gravitic propulsion that I call falling
helium balloons fall upwards. they are gravitic propusion in a sense, because gravity is pulling on the denser air, effectively pushing the balloon up. the balloon consumes no energy to float and fall upwards, the energy comes from earths gravitational field.
I have invented a means to rotate gravitic propulsion 180º. I'm trying to find a different word for "teeter-totter" in the wording of the text. There's a danger someone will steal the idea and make trillions of dollars from my work.
Its flat earth conspiracy nonsense, gravity isnt negotiable, flying into space is the only escape.
That is basically what sci-fi gravitic propulsion is. Basically make an artificial field of mass in front of your vessel, and it'll fall towards it. I know Halo specifically uses this for the alien forces in lore.
But like Sabina said, to make something fly with this, that artifical field must have more than the mass of the earth. Even if it were possible to make artificial gravity, it would be a massive energy hog. Anything using it would basically need a black hole to power it.
Now all you have to do is learn to miss the ground and you can fly.
The first mention of gravitic technology that I know of was in Isaac Asimov's novel "Foundation," from 1942.
And a close relative was the use of gravity shielding in H G Wells's book.
In Cixin Liu’s Death’s End they use a form of gravity propulsion as spaceship engines
David Brin uses the term in his Uplift novels, although it's never really explained. Still, it's my favorite Science Fiction.
In "Foundation's Edge" from 1982, Asimov describes a ship that uses gravitic propulsion. In "Foundation" from 1942, only an elevator is described as using gravitic technology.
you need to try non fiction it's very old for decades
My guess is Gravitic Propulsion is patented by the same people who developed Unobtanium.
Imagine a future where Widgets made of Unobtanium are powered by Gravitic Propulsion.
Surely a golden age awaits.
Is Unobtanium the generic, patent-free version of Unobtainium?
It is people like you who said telephones were witchcraft...
@@manoo422 - “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.” Arthur C. Clarke
@@brothermine2292 Yes, it is.
Sort of like Linux/Unix
Ayup.
Ah, it's patented by the Navy
Someone should remind Eric that there are no free lunches in physics.
2:12 In this case, Marc Andreesen isn't even hallucinating. In the 1990s, there was a lengthy court battle against the PGP creator Zimmerman. As PGP used the patented RSA algorithm and it was freely downloadable worldwide, he was sued to "export weapons technology to enemy states" like Iran or North Korea. So it's not THAT of a stretch to assume whole branches of maths would be classified instead of published.
Also, it was verboten to ship software with encryption that used keys longer than 56 (? that's what my Alzheimer tells me) bits. That included web browsers and such, but it took about 15 minutes for everybody to figure out how to patch the software and remove this limitation. Also, do you remember T-shirts with the DVD master key? Those were fun times…
Very good points, Sabine.
The idea of you going on to Joe Rogan's podcast is brilliant. I would pay to see that.
I am impressed when Rogan asked, "from an engineering perspective". In the end, all this fundamental physics is meaningless, until it is applied.
It's that old saying, "Is that a particle accelerator in your pocket, or are you happy to see me?" 😆
neither it's a bonner !
Theoretically you could make a pocket sized particle accelerator, but it won't accelerate the particle very much.
When I was a child I was capable of modeling space contracting and I would call it stepping out of perspective. The effect always happened on a very specific hill I would walk up as a kid. Very steep hill. I cannot do this anymore and its upsetting because it always felt like something very deep that I didnt care to understand.
It seems like some physicists are more concerned about plowing forward than taking the time to fully understand where we are. I know that seems boring, but it more fully explains the real world around us. Which is something that is much more useful.
Totally agree
@SabineHossenfelder , below is a simple setup. Please do it yourself and explain it to yourself how it works (just be curious, no need to explain to others). Please don't rely on anyone else's previous put down explanations. At 2:45 mark you can see no ionic air and you can feel that ring is on heavier side when it drops.
ruclips.net/video/006d36WWyaQ/видео.html
@@SabineHossenfelder ruclips.net/video/8TYMQOUDQBo/видео.html
The last time I changed physics, there was this gigantic explosion called the Big Bang. I'm not doing that again.
Must be getting late. I laughed at this, too.
I appreciate your recent focus on positive & inspirational content with your added realistic point of view.
I’m an engineer running a reverse engineering team and you couldn’t be more right. 🎉 your papers are very interesting.
As a chemist/geochemist, I honestly think this is where all the cool things will actually come from.
The big holy grails here are
Room Temperature Super conductors
Meta Stable solid Hydrogen
Meta materials
Macro scale Nanoparticles
And I'm sure there are others I have yet to come across or am not personally interested (one of my lectures was trying to make synthetic haemoglobin).
"Macro scale nanoparticles" makes NO sense 😂😂😂😂. I guess that's why you are a "geochemist".
We could almost say that all marerials around us are basically "macro-scale nanoparticles" ...
You're forgetting red mercury.
@dvv18 That's more of a myth. It doesn't have any basis on chemistry
@davidhobbs5679 You don't say…
@boredscientist5756 it's things like meter long single nanotubes or large sheets of single layer graphene. I don't think my terminology there is on point, but the thing is a real area of study.
“You can’t just build a state of the art AI model in your basement”
*Deepseek has entered the chat*
Yes, and just add 50,000 Nvidia H800/H100 GPU’s, several years of development of 26 top AI engineers and pay them an average of $125K for 3 years from your High Flyer hedge fund company, do 4 ablation runs, 30-40 test runs and a few YOLO runs during development and one final run- then just quote only your last $6 million run as the total cost, while forgetting to mention the other $50 million investment and also the spyware tied to the CCP.
@@amdenis sorry , some students had experimented and replicated and it only cost 30$ . And LOL DeepSeeok had fully opensourced the model along with publicly available technical docs to reproduce. May be you need to inhale some more copium.
There is no spyware in opensource models.
The key to ever lasting energy is to build a thing that brings two things together that causes a thing to happen. We then take that happening and run a thing through it that causes it to do a thing. While it does its thing, we cycle it inside protected things in tanks of things that will build up a thing that can turn a thing that provides an abundance of energy.
I'm beginning to think the reason they're holding back disclosure, is not because of us freaking out.
Its to keep the scientist from jumping out windows.
I so appreciate Sabine's dry humor, much needed this morning.
I don't... This subject is very serious, and she has done the history and the scientists who've worked on it a great disservice!
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I now want a thriller-action movie featuring Sabine Hossenfelder as the world's greatest physicist-spy waging war against the world's forces of stupidity.
First movie: The Quark Who Loved Me.
Just asking, are you high?
@@blucat4 Drugs facilitated a lot of great art and ideas. More power to them.
I know, but this wasn't an example of such.
@@blucat4 Just trying to trigger a laugh.
I laughed.
“How does it work? I don’t know”
That is by far the most convincing argument I’ve ever heard that it cannot possibly exist rofl
So, do you believe it exists? Just curious!
look it up clown. podlnetkov. 1990s it was in time magazine even
@ I leave believing in things for the religious. I prefer to actually know things than just believe in them, but unfortunately I do not know the answer to whether or not it exists because I am not privy to such guarded information. Until I do know the answer i will keep an open mind.
Gravitics was a term coined by Thomas Townsend Brown to describe flying disks which were powered by by high voltage. He worked for the US Navy and all his patents and research was classified SECRET. There are a few books on Brown and I think a website run by his family.
We all know Sabine is concealing Die Glocke. Give it up!😂😂
As a lay bust interested person, I have always felt that if any of these things were possible astronomers and astrophysicists would have already seen it in the cosmos.
They do see anti-matter but don't have it here. That's the problem. You catch it flying out of a blackhole when it's ripped off a particle from the force of a trillion tons of gravity. Numbers off but sentiment is close.
3:10 "more degrees of freedom" *rolls eyes, yes, degrees of freedom which aren't free to a large degree; wtf are these people taking.
Joe actually asked a very easy and direct question about energy usage. Probably heard about space bending drives needing a lot of energy.
Then the guy completely sidesteps the question
Edit: oh and listened to the rest. New plans to do new things haha
I hate dumb people who try to play at bejng smart. The guy clearly is a chucklehead. Sadly dumb people will listen.
"gravitic propulsion" is you drop something, and it moves. Something about Newton and falling apples.
The man talking to Joe Rogan was describing Harry Harrison's Bloater Drive, described in Bill the Galactic Hero.
to be fair, Rogan's question was pretty terrible. what would the thing we don't know how to work, operate, or build, look like from an engineering perspective? That guy was a trooper for even attempting to answer that question for him.
@@twistedpixel756 Fair comment.
Actually the US is not to blame for this one. Its the darn germans who got away. They started the research in the 1930s. Its quite well documented if one is inclined....
I'm a clueless german, but inclined. Please tell me where to look 😂 Is it the Fliegende Deutsche Untertasse? I've only found ones made of porcelain so far. They weren't particularly aerodynamic.
Oh not that stupid bell conspiracy theory? Yeah, moving right along.....
Victor Schauberger: Trout Turbine.
The USA had obscure research dating decades before that. The Germans were not the only ones to do that at that time, but their secrecy cracked because they lost the war.
So we have to make something the size of earth and wait seven and a half million years for a result.
Unfortunately the Vogons won't wait that long.
That's a lot of effort and time to build a death star and hold a grudge.
OK! Where's my coffee plantation?
The single greatest line in all of Sabine's output:
"But the truth is more boring!"
See the 1927 patent GB300311A - This produces what Thomas Townsend Brown, the Inventor, describes as the Electro Gravitic effect or ionic wind. Later changed to the Biefeld-Brown effect.
Brown worked with the US Navy in the 1950s, before the topic became top secret.
"Most mainstream scientists and engineers consider the so-called "Biefeld-Brown effect" to be primarily an ionic wind phenomenon, meaning that the force generated is due to the movement of charged particles in the surrounding air, rather than any exotic gravitational interaction.
Laboratory experiments have consistently shown that the force diminishes in a vacuum, supporting the ionic wind theory rather than any antigravity claims." - ChatGPT
T. T. Brown was awarded multiple patents in this field, from 1928 to 1965.
To have a patent, you literally have to describe how to make it. That's the patentable part.
And as usual, no one has claimed that his findings somehow violate the energy laws. If you have to keep putting in power, it's just another engine.
@@johnevans1385 good for fanning fires though.
PTT a real technique in cancer treatment, and it twigged me to think DEW and weather manipulation. It can be done no doubt. The principle of Photothermal Therapy (PTT)-localized heating through light absorption by nanoparticles-could theoretically be applied to atmospheric or environmental manipulation.
How PTT Works
Photosensitizer Agent:
PTT relies on materials like nanoparticles (e.g., gold nanoparticles, graphene, or carbon nanotubes) that absorb NIR light and convert it into heat. These materials are often functionalized to specifically target cancer cells.
NIR Light Activation:
A NIR laser is used to penetrate tissue, as it can reach deeper tissues due to minimal absorption by biological components.
Heat Generation:
The nanoparticles absorb the NIR light and convert it into heat. This localized hyperthermia induces cancer cell death, typically through protein denaturation and membrane disruption.
Cancer Cell Death:
The heat damages cancer cells without significantly affecting surrounding healthy tissue, as the treatment is precisely targeted.
Here's an exploration of the idea: Applying PTT Principles to Atmosphere Seeding.
Seeding the Atmosphere with Nanoparticles: Material Selection: Similar to gold nanoparticles in PTT, materials with high absorption efficiency at specific wavelengths (e.g., carbon black, graphene, or engineered metal oxides) could be dispersed in the atmosphere. Size and Composition: Nanoparticles would need to be engineered to resonate with specific wavelengths of light, such as infrared or visible sunlight.
Heating the Atmosphere or Target Areas: Localized Heating: If nanoparticles are tailored to absorb specific frequencies of light (e.g., solar radiation or directed laser beams), they would convert that energy into heat, warming the surrounding air or objects immersed in the seeded area. Selective Heating: By controlling the dispersion of nanoparticles, specific regions or layers of the atmosphere could be targeted. For instance: Warming cold air masses to influence weather patterns. Melting snow or ice in targeted regions. Preventing frost formation in agricultural fields.
Directed Energy Application: Infrared lasers or high-intensity light sources could be used to selectively activate nanoparticles within the seeded region, focusing energy and maximizing efficiency.
Potential Applications Weather Modification: Influence local weather patterns by heating air masses or redirecting wind flows. Mitigate frost damage to crops by warming specific areas of farmland.
Solar Energy Enhancement: Increase localized heat absorption in regions where solar energy is insufficient (e.g., in cold climates or during the winter).
Thermal Decontamination: Selectively heat areas to kill pathogens or pests in agricultural or urban settings.
@@johnevans1385so a failed idea, that no one should do any more research on or invest money in? That doesn’t sound like what a intelligence agency would do to discourage or stop research in a classified field!
@@johnevans1385 Sure agreed it's not an "antigravity " phenomena but it doesn't need to be as long as it actually works in large scale such as facilitating the levitation
of large craft in the air which I'm pretty sure it does despite what the mainstream scientists have said.
The tech has been perfected since the 50's by big military contractors but kept hidden from the public eyes IMHO .
It's not for the public's eyes maybe even only a few in the US govt. are privy to it's existence the rest don't even know about it.
The idea of chinese gravatic propulsion drones is easily disproven: if they had such, they would not risk it's capture by a foreign power.
That’s what they *want* you to think.
Not if they knew that the US also has it already.
no. the entire world is controlled by a single shadow government. the rivalry between nations is artificial. its just a giant conspiracy against humanity, freedom and civilization. the tech is hidden not because its dangerous, its hidden because renders most of the oppressive economy obsolete. anti gravity devices generate energy when flying, because they get pushed by earth gravity. they are "free energy" devices in the sense that they gain more energy than they loose, because they are pushed by earths gravity instead of fighting it. effectively, its a method of transportation at hypersonic speed in the atmosphere and close to light speed in space, with instant acceleration produced by tiny forces cause there is no weight to overcome. it has effectively zero energy cost when in flight and close to a strong mass like a planet, its relatively safe because you cannot ever hit the ground at high speed so crashing it is difficult and if done, relatively harmless as the force is tiny. it eliminates the need for all transportation infrastructure. no streets, no ships, no planes, no large runways, faster, safer, no energy cost, no fuel. and it also overcomes all issue of space travel. think about how much cheaper this would make everything.
remove all the successive transportation and energy cost that in prices. as you dont need street infrastructure, real estate will be much cheaper, can be build everywhere, and energy can be generated everywhere, without any need for fuel, mining, imports and no danger or pollution.
if this was made public, humans would instantly be free from the oppressive control of governments and ruling elites, and thats precisely why this is hidden. the anti gravitic nature is not the troubling part, its the fact that allows for very convenient energy generation and simultaneously reduces energy consumption down to near zero, since transportation would not required any.
@@PravinDahal Still no. You don't want others to know exactly what you have.
@ No one in intel plays 3D chess. Trust me.
conspiracy theorist in 1940: the US government is making a bomb that harnesses atomic energy.
We have a good mind to put you in the Looney bin. Men will walk on the moon before that's possible!
The US didn't officially enter the war until December 1941 and the Manhattan project didn't start until 1942. It was actually scientist that appealed to the US government to develop the bomb due to the fact that they didn't want the Nazis the develop their own version. The US army was pretty much used to help construction.
@ Roosevelt learned of the possibility of the bomb in 1939 and quickly began establishing nuclear committees.
There was no such conspiracies because nuclear theories were open source. There is a difference between science and manufacturing. The Manhattan Project was a trial and error manufacturing process, and it had to be secret because of the fuking Nazi you newt. We were at war, with a major enemy, trying to build a new bomb, based on open source info, so we had to hide the trial and error manufacturing that need to be resolved to make it work. Imagine if it was done open source. The nazi could have sat back, watch the Americans put in all the money and effort, and when they got it right, immediately use that open source nuke manufacturing knowledge to build an arsenal. No you see how stupid that would have been, and why secrecy was so important?
This current TREND(of shit) of turning eveything into a conspiracy theory is breaking your brains. You're all turning into primitive dumb lizard brained newts.
That atoms store energy was known since Einstein. There is no way, even theoretically, to produce antigravity.
I hadn't really thought about the fact that if say a new particle was discovered through accellerators, you'd never practically be able to harvest enough of those to make it useful.
Aviaition Week and Space Technology once had an article claiming that zero point energy was just around the corner. They said it would be developed by 2012. That was just about the last thing I heard of it.
I will give you a [YES]
They'd never tell
@TomSherwood-z5l This is alien technology (ZPM) and was classified under the Stargate Program. Although the program is well documented. 😎
That was the April 01 edition!
There are two types of clock. Digital and analog. They both tell the time but one is square.
That's the problem. You need a long clock.
@@Marvin-tpaNo. a wide one. 😉
@@Marvin-tpaMy grandfather's clock is long and dangly.
I'm sticking to my sundial.
Did that guy reference Einstein's rulers and protractors? Did they have small clocks attached in their 4th dimension to be able to measure space-time and not only space?
2:24 to me, it's obvious dude is aware he tells bs, the self-pacifying stroking of his leg lets me think that.
Or he's tweaking
Microtubules seem to be related to consciousness, they interact with the quantum world. Structure is the way to interact with the quantum world. antigravity is a quantum interaction. What experimenters found out is that quantum antigravity structures effects consciousness. This is why antigravity (discovered in the 1950's) was kept secret.
1:30 Correction: conspiracies to hide top secret physics has been a thing on social media since before social media.
Excellent video, Sabine! I especially liked the part where you note that the place to look for scientific upsets is in emergent properties, rather than in fundamental ones. It's especially striking when you consider that life and consciousness are emergent properties of the physics of our universe. But, coming to the fundamental rules of our universe completely cold, no one would predict it giving rise to something as complex and varied as biology.
That all said, the level of cringe I felt at watching some of the pseudoscience clips was legitimately painful for me. Like, if somebody has to dodge the most basic of questions about the "world shattering" assertions they're making, then you know they're absolutely full of crap.
@1:15 It's called a hill. Used in conjunction with advanced vehicles like a bicycle, one can ride variable distances without peddling.
But where did that energy come from? Oh yeah, it was put into it when the energy was put into it pushing it up the hill in the first place.
how has the scientific community missed this?! 😆
That's what the first thing i thought. Gravitational drives are super easy to use, the only problem is they are not reversible.
I’m an engineer and believe that anti-gravitic propulsion originated with a salesman talking out of his arse about something he thought up at a conference, took orders for, then learned when he returned, ant-gravity was something only superman and vampires have mastered. But the damage was done, because a janitor snooping around the office made copies of the sales orders for the antigravity reactors, and handed them over to the unknown grand daughter of Nicola Tesla. As everyone knows, the elder Tesla used electromagnets to make a battleship phase into another dimensions, not to mention discovered the secret to free energy. The grand daughter was said to have combined the idea with granpa’s unpublished secrets she found in his old bathrobe. 25 years later, The secret grand daughter turned up dead near a known FBI hang-out, thus proving that the US government has the secret of anti gravity. QED.
Sabine commenting on UFOs was not on my list for 2025, but I welcome it.
She’s smartened up and knows what people will click on. Look what happened to the TLC channel, turned into reality TV and aliens cause that makes money
been trying to make maths dissapear since grade 5
And spelling
@ speling.
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@@Thomas-gk42 TY, Glad you liked.
I can create artificial gravity, I just need 2000 Heptatons of matter.
@ Perfect. : )
Researching emergent properties! Bingo! (thanks for including this)
Nothing new, I remember the book "The Hunt for Zero Point'" by Nick Cook in 2003. Same anti-gravity stuff a few decades later.
I think this is a great overview and the points about compatibility with what we know are spot on. However I think there is a 4th way that you glossed over, which are some kind of emergent behaviour that only shows up in specific circumstances. For instance, Cooper pairs in superconductivity, or magic angles in graphene. So you are correct that these aren't new fundamental forces, fields or particles, but specific arrangements of fundamentals may reveal new and surprising properties that aren't apparent in other contexts.
Edit: haha, I should have waited for the rest of the video, I see you eventually made basically this same point. Kudos!
Kudos to you to for making the edit.
You mean other people comment befoer watching to the end? I thought I was the only one.
Yes, we never do large classified project in America with 100’s of researchers and others that we have working in a compartmented fashion and give them TS and SC clearances- at least without telling you about it every time.
another conspiracy idiot, maybe you even believe in flat earth?
Is this a joke like the book on anti gravity that you just can't put down? I don't get this one. Yes of course there a secrete projects. There have always been secrete government projects. 99.99% of them are defense (offense) military ones. Space travel only interests the government for geopolitical PR.
The last time was the Manhattan project. With no smartphones, no internet, no television in homes. Try that now. No effin chance whatsoever. Aaaand you elegantly omitted, that there is not even a sound theory of antigravitistic propulsion, let alone any experiments on it.
I would love to see Sebine in the JRE podcast
I’ve seen enough of Eric to be perplexed at his level of admiration. Way overrated.
You mean his level of admiration for himself? 😄
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@ That too!
Here's my issue with your argument, Sabine. 'Maths' are so unbelievably challenging, complex, and diverse, that the talent pool of humans who can understand the full breadth and depth of physics topics has got to be near zero. Is it possible there are blind spots? Yes. Add to this the innumerable edge cases, cusps, and asymptotes that can be exploited across all relevant equations, and I'm not convinced that it's simply "impossible" to do anything novel from this point on with the topics of gravity and time. The other factor that really challenges anyone in this space is access to advanced materials, vacuum physics, and photonics experiments. This is why we end up with teams of researchers and peer reviewed papers, yet this very workflow seems to create a glacial pace of innovation and discovery, rife with the pressure of 'next funding round' and only incremental progress. I see a parallel in new product prototyping, the space I play in. Regardless of budget, R&D projects / prototypes seem to apply the 80/20 rule out of necessity. If we had the time and money to only explore the far-fetched 20% of creative solutions and apply them to new products, we'd have some really cool stuff. Same can probably be said of math and physics. So, stay rooted in reality, yes, but don't close off the possibility of new phenomena. At one time someone was probably sh*tting on the idea of a laser, a semiconductor, or radio waves. For one thing, we have not fully explored superconductors, and if there can be zero resistance in electron flow, then a lot of 'maths' probably go to infinity. Same with BECs and even novel Piezo materials. That's my EE take on the whole thing.
Please don't tell me by "photonics experiments" you solely mean the wave-function collapse which was disproven as an instrument interference flaw yet to this day is still used by quantum woo grifters to suggest proof of God or the insane gnostic worldview that suggests schizophrenic hallucinations are real 💀
On the piezo topic - I have been pushing for more reseach in this area for the last decade. The NSF has set up some funding that is available through ARPA-E and some universities are now tapped into this and conducted some very encouraging research. It looks like the power denity for piezo transformers is likely to be potential 3 to 5 orders higher than for traditional magnetic devices.
These people know everything. Just ask them , they will tell you so.
My comment would be that she pretty much covered this when she said material science WAS a huge area for novel and new areas of science to open up.
@@ForgeMasterXXL Correct. But I would add that we are replying to a post based entirely on ignorance. Not a good place to start. Ever.
1:30 She's actually a German scientist picked up during Operation Paperclip. Why does she look so young? Cryogenics, obviously.
That's a very elegant way to put it: new physics is hidden in the emergent properties of complex systems. I have a bit of fascination with the complex system theory, and I find this possibility highly plausible. I'm very grateful for that insight. It seems like a perfect fit to make some "woo" stuff possible without breaking down any solid foundation that we have. Something like Penrose's consciousness model, or Sabina's explanation of the possibility of thinking universe. But let's be fair - it also opens the possibility for the aforementioned Wolfram's magical ruler :)
I now understand the gravity of the situation regarding anti-gravity propulsion!
Q. "How does it work?" A. "I don't know." Sums it all up for me!
“If I knew, they’d have me in a hole under Area 51.”
The fact that no one able to talk about it knows the “answer” is used as proof that the “answer” is buried. The only people they can think of with the power to round up everybody who runs across the answer is the US government. They sadly completely overlook the Greys, who are the real ones trying to keep us in our cradle!”🤪
03:24
Eric: It's not fair! Nobody is building a miraculous, world changing idea from my plans. It's a government cover up!!
Joe: From an engineering perspective, how would you build it?
Eric: You would build something new from new plans that would do something that nothing else could do...
@@noahway13 Sounds like something Trump would say (not being political, but...) "I have a plan of a plan..."
You would think a theoretical physicist would know that gravity is not a force
Gravity is still only a theory and will probably remain as such.
Sabine on Joe would be awesome. Not that I've watched Joe in a long long time. But still. I want to hear it.