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Liouguei District

Hi Chongkian. I've noticed that you seem to have an interest in articles about Taiwanese subjects. I am not that experienced an editor on Wikipedia, and I was wondering if you could help me fix the article on Liouguei District. I tried to change it from Liugui District, but I accidentally mistyped it to Lipuguei District. Do you know how to change the article title to Liouguei District and delete the mistaken title page from Wikipedia? Transphasic (talk) 20:57, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

No worries, dude. Done! Try check again the Liouguei District Chongkian (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Transphasic (talk) 19:15, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Museums in Taiwan

Well done on all the museums in Taiwan than you have added. However, the categories for these need some work. You should not include super-categories of "Category:Museums in Taiwan" such as "Category:Taiwan", "Category:Visitor attractions in Taiwan", and "Category:Museums". If possible, sub-categories of "Category:Museums in Taiwan" should be used. If the year of establishment is known (e.g., "YYYY"), the following are relevant: [[Category:Museums established in YYYY]] [[Category:YYYY establishments in Taiwan]] . If the year of establishment is not known, use: Category:Museums with year of establishment missing. Also, use full references rather than bare URLs and the stub "{{Taiwan-museum-stub}}" is appropriate. I have updated some entries. I hope this helps and keep up the good work! — Jonathan Bowen (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Oh, thanks a lot for all of the inputs. I've been concentrating more on creating new articles only (because basically there is just no article at all in describing some particular museums! let it alone be more detail), without really focusing the detail on the other components of the article (e.g. category, the reference URL etc). Sure, I'll take not on that and will make those improvements. Cheers! Chongkian (talk) 02:57, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Great, I will work through the articles gradually under Category:Museums, where there should be no actual museums. If you create new articles or update old ones, it would be good to attend to these details. Have fun editing! Best wishes, Jonathan Bowen (talk) 00:46, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

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Taiwan-related articles need to have Simplified Chinese displayed in addition to Traditional Chinese

Hi! I saw this edit. Please keep Simplified in Taiwan-related articles. Articles should display both Traditional and Simplified forms. However the order differs depending on subject.

• Hong Kong, Macau, Taiwan, Pre-1949 Mainland, old Singapore and Malaysia as well as most overseas Chinese communities: Traditional first
• Post-1949 Mainland, modern Singapore and Malaysia: Simplified first

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I do understand your point. I was initially thinking that way. But do we end up having to have British English name alongside any American English name of article all the time? (e.g. in the case of if both versions have different spelling between each other). Or has there been any general concession in Wikipedia regarding putting traditional and simplified version of name alongside each other? I don't mind putting all of the simplified together with traditional name regarding any Chinese-related article if that's the way it is. And even regarding the Chinese pinyin, should we always stick to Hanyu Pinyin (for Mainland China, Taiwan, Singapore)? Or even should be include Tongyong Pinyin for pre-2008 Taiwan and pre-1950s Mainland China as well and Cantonese Pinyin for Hong Kong & Macau-related articles? Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:43, 8 March 2014 (UTC)

From my understanding there is a general concession to write both forms of Chinese. Now, if there are a lot of "attributes" (different dialect spellings - AFAIK only use non-Mandarin dialects if the particular province is relevant) then we can use a special Chinese language template that lists traditional and simplified written forms and romanizations according to different dialects, but when it's just Mandarin I put the info in the lead. From my understanding Hanyu Pinyin is put in every China-related/Chinese subject, but Tongong Pinyin is also listed if it's 1990s?-2008 Taiwan. For Wade-Giles, for pre-1949 Mainland and pre-1990s?? Taiwan (for many old subjects, the scholarship uses Wade-Giles - I've read through journal articles about Chinese subjects and I will say that Wade-Giles is very helpful for inclusion in articles about pre-1949 Mainland subjects as well as during the period when the US didn't normalize with the PRC) WhisperToMe (talk) 04:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC)

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Taiwan

Hi, I've removed the "establishment" category you have added to a number of cities in Taiwan as it is incorrect - all of the cities were founded long before the modern period. "Establishment" categories are generally for things like schools, businesses etc. Cheers. ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 16:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

If you check deeper into each of those Taiwanese cities history, the reason I put the establishment year category is more on their current status of the city (either as county-controlled city, district, provincial city, special municipality etc - because as time passes by, there are some adjustments on those administrative divisions), not on the very first time that city appear on world's map. Can that be considered as a "legal-entity establishment"? Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:15, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

I did check, and "no", the fact that the administrative status of a particular city, town, etc. changes over time does not negate its prior existence or alter when it was originally established. If you extrapolate your reasoning then you would end up with a bunch of unnecessary categories as in this trivial example: "cities established in the eight century" "cities that became a "zhou" during the Tang dynasty", "cities that were captured by pirates in 1756", "cities that became a provincial-level city in the Qing Dynasty" and so on ad infinitum, whereas the first one would be sufficient. The bottom line is if it isn't true, it shouldn't be in Wikipedia. Keelung was not established in 1945 so it does not belong in that category. Best ► Philg88 ◄ ^♦talk 16:52, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

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An article I created

Hi Chongkian, I see that you are an active member of the WikiProject Taiwan. I have recently created the article Secondary education in Taiwan, could you help to check the article if it could be further improved? I intended to translate from Chinese FA but failed to due to real life constraints.

I am not familiar with this topic as I have never received education there. Are you a Taiwanese? HYH.124 (talk) 07:04, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi there. Sure, let me see if I can add anything else that I know, linking to any Taiwan universities, Ministry of Education, K-12 Education Administration, or maybe probably education history of the ROC before 1949. In creating article about particular country/region, you don't really have to be a native/citizen of that place. A third people's point of view may sometimes be completely 100% objective in seeing and evaluating something, because he/she is not raised by the common 'misconception' or 'propaganda' from that particular place. Me? Let's just say I'm a person who is really interested in many Taiwan-related articles ;) Chongkian (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 08:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

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Oh, sure. I will pay more attention to that. Some (or perhaps many) categories just don't exist yet. Generally, I will classify it by stub/or not stub, the year of establishment, then county/city/municipality, then the type (tourist attraction, museum, station, gov etc). Chongkian (talk)

Yeah so if you create something like a waterfall or something, a category like Waterfalls of xx County might be necessary if there is more than one or/and a Geography of xxx District.♦ Dr. Blofeld 13:36, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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Oh ok, I get what you mean. Seems like there are too many articles already (in the order of hundreds) linked to the Centers for Disease Control of the US version. So I've decided to add the redirect link at the beginning of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention article to the CDC in Taiwan. Maybe that's the win-win one. Thanks for the advice, Russ! ~ ;) Chongkian (talk) 01:30, 27 June 2014 (UTC)

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Could you point me to the right page for discussion among WikiProject memberes? I have ideas, but I'm confused on which page is the right one for discussion. Transphasic (talk) 00:42, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Hi Transphasic, I also rarely (or probably never) join any discussion among WikiProject Taiwan members. The only page I have found so far that discuss WikiProject Taiwan topics is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Taiwan. The other page which has more discussion I've found is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Taiwan-related_topics_notice_board. Chongkian (talk)

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