User talk:DatGuy/Archives/2016/August

Think about this!

Hey, DatGuy,

Have you ever considered an RfA? I know it's quite brutal, but I think you are suitably experienced and I'd love to see you as a sysop. I'd be honoured to nominate you. ProgrammingGeek (Page! • Talk! • Contribs!) 20:39, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

@ProgrammingGeek: Geez, I don't think so. Not yet at least. RfA is extremely brutal. A user who passed RfA told me once that it is even quite depressing. There's a make-up criteria for most users, and I believe I won't pass. I might try it when I have 6 more months or so under my belt, but I don't believe I should. If I will want to try it, I will definitely go to the RfA poll first. Thanks for the offer though :). Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:58, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

CVUA

Hi, I was wondering if I could sign up for CVUA training under you? I have dealt with a few instances of vandalism in the past, and I would like to learn how to go at that more. At the moment I haven't really been doing much with that, as I created an article two days ago, but I would like it if you could help me develop counter-vandalism skills. I will be looking forward to hearing from you soon. Thank you. Woodstop45 (talk) 16:38, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

@Woodstop45: Hello! I'm glad that you'd like to learn how to counter vandalism, however I'm going on a vacation for 3 days. I will set up a page when I return. Meanwhile, if you'd like to apply to any other trainers, just tell me . Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 08:51, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I'll be looking forward to your return. Woodstop45 (talk) 16:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

@Woodstop45: I have returned. I'll make a page tomorrow though, as I am jet-lagged right now and quite sleepy. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:16, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I hope you had a good trip! Woodstop45 (talk) 22:40, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

@Woodstop45: See this page. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Historical and Literary Society

Hello there. I have been editing a new article, Historical and Literary Society, based on a version on Polish Wiki. I stopped yesterday for lack of time. I worked on it some more this morning only to find when I tried to save it, that it had been orphaned. Why? I have a sick dependent in hospital so much less time as a result. Can you please help to un-orphan it? Regards, --Po Kadzieli (talk) 12:09, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

@Po Kadzieli: Huh? Did you read what the tag said? No other articles link to the article you edited. It suggests to introduce links for it. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:17, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

{{replyto|DatGuy]], Hurrumph? There are linked articles in the text and under See also heading. Should I ask someone else to help?? --Po Kadzieli (talk) 12:33, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

"No other articles link to it" Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:35, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

I understand you.

Hello thanks very much. I understand you but it pains me a lot, I will soon give you a clear evidence on User:Oluwa2Chainz when he was sending proposal to music artist especially Runtown asking them for money.--DGrecordz (talk) 20:38, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Alright then.... If the 'evidence' violates WP:OUTING, then please e-mail it to either me or Widr. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:40, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

AWB

Hi DatGuy. Please don't make edits such as [1] and [2] using AWB. The AWB rules of use specifically prohibit making inconsequential edits with the tool. Thanks. Omni Flames (talk) 11:08, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Omni Flames: Those edits were perfectly fine. In the second edit, you should always bold the title of the article in the lead section (which is what I did). For the first edit, it's a similar case to what is on the AWB talk page. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 11:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I think you misunderstand me. There's nothing wrong with the edits themselves, and if they hadn't been made with AWB I would've ignored them. However, the problem is that they're insignificant. Whether they're compliant with policy or not doesn't matter, they have little effect on the actual page. Omni Flames (talk) 11:15, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Omni Flames: Isn't that the point of AWB? To make fixes such as typos, cleanup, MOS fixes, and so-forth? Apologies if this seems mean, however I'm trying to reach consensus while being a bit bold. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 11:21, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that is the purpose of AWB, however any edit which has very little effect on the rendered page which you're editing is probably too insignificant to make with AWB. See Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser#Rules_of_use, specifically point #4. Don't get me wrong, I also use AWB, and I appreciate what you're doing, I just think you should make very minor edits manually instead. Omni Flames (talk) 11:30, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

@Omni Flames: Alright, I'll try that ;). Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 11:34, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

PFISTERER

Hi DatGuy, thanks a lot for your help! :) --Bianca fi (talk) 12:35, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Thank you for reviewing my article the other day! Melodyjduan (talk) 05:58, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Leuchter report

Ah, I see you're away. I've asked the account to confirm that no legal threat's intended. Since I blocked the IP (for blanking the article twice, not the tags), it's possible that the account might not be able to reply. I don't know and won't check, I'd turn that over to another CU if it became an issue. Doug Weller talk 14:30, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, got this confused with another article and IP! Doug Weller talk 16:17, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Help

Uh, it says that my nick in IRC is taken, but I didn't log in? Is someone using my account? Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Yup, is it protected with nickserv? If so you can ghost them - /msg nickserv ghost DatGuy [nickserv password] -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 12:29, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

who is DatGuy?

(just for fun) who is that guy? :D happy editing The Stray Dog by Sadeq Hedayat 21:25, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

anyway thanks for {{Twinkle topicon}}. i found it from your talk page. The Stray Dog by Sadeq Hedayat 21:28, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

@TheStrayDog: Hello! Have we crossed paths before? Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:34, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

in real life? i dont think so . i just asked it for fun. i found you at Wikipedia:RTRC (by Flying Spaghetti Monster :D ) . The Stray Dog by Sadeq Hedayat 21:56, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Fancy being a WikiSleuth beta tester?

Okay, so I've been working on a little pet project for a while which is starting to take shape - WikiSleuth. Currently only one tool is enabled (PrimeSuspect), and even then I've turned most of its features off, so currently it acts very much like a semi-live Recent Changes.. I'd really appreciate some comments on basic things at the moment (design, wording etc) before I dive into enabling the sentiment analyzing, editor reputation considering sentient back-end -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 20:46, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: Sure! So does it work like Huggle? If the editor has received multiple 'thanks,' has lots of edits, etc. then he probably won't pop-up, and if he was reverted multiple times or has a warning, he will be a 'prime suspect?' Also, I knew I would agree when I saw that introduction image! For the design, it seems a bit boring but that could be understood as it was just created. Don't forget that on the /WikiSleuth introduction page, it says "Made with <3 by [[User:Samtar]]" (remove the extra [[ as it already links to it ;)) Finally, when are you starting to work alongside MusikAnimal for WMF! Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:59, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Perhaps make it exclude bots, as this edit was suggested to be reviewed. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:00, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

See I knew there was a reason I asked you ;) I'll remove bots from what it looks at. Yes, it will work a lot of Huggle in that respect (when I finally get that working!). Design is my lowest priority right now, but yeah it's boring and I'll fix that. It's also not overly mobile-friendly. The [[ ]] are actually there by design decision, but I can remove them if they look silly? And finally, before I head off to bed, I recently interviewed for the WMF and passed the first interview and got to the technical test, but didn't progress further :( I'll keep you updated, but you can also read the devlog -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 21:19, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, and congratulations for passing the first interview :). I'm waiting to see what the triforce of you, Jimmy, and Musik can produce haha. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:20, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

> but didn't progress further -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 21:22, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: Oh.... Well, you can still do it! The triforce is alive! Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:23, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

No worries -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 21:43, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Moved over to http://www.wikisleuth.org :) -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 14:26, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Feeling down? Want to help revert vandalism? Come over to www.wikisleuth.org *pans to Sam* Here we have some things. The first thing is our logo. *pans even more left* Here are some reviews from our satisfied customers! "Dis shit saks" - Vandal123, "J3mmy s0cks" - NeilN, "I like Turtles" - Jimbo Wales. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 14:43, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

All for the low low price of $399.99! That's right, all this for $399.99! But wait, there's more! -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 14:48, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

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"This user page has been vandalized many, many times."

Gee I wonder why. You seem like such a pleasant person.-2601:546:8103:290:13E:DF48:57E2:696B (talk) 09:40, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

First of all, get off my talk page. You call people vandals, give false advice, and spam user talk pages. Also, seems like I really deserved it, Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 09:46, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Help

If I'd like to create a user warning template, how should I do it? Should I include it in Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Multi-level templates? Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:57, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Not fully answered, but Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings/Design guidelines (and Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings in general) have a lot of information -- samtar ^{talk or stalk} 13:02, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Personally I'd suggest you create them and propose inclusion in the list on the talk page. Adding your own templates without prior discussion might be seen as somewhat iffy. Huon (talk) 18:41, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

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John Glashan

Er . . . I'm sure that this edit of yours was well-intended, but the drivel that you resuscitated had been rightly deleted. Consider just its start: In 1889 Glashan Public School (Ottawa, Ontario) was named after the painter/writer in honour of his great work. Decades before the person in question was even born. And it gets worse from there.

Here are the other edits by the IP who added the drivel. An IP very rightly removed this crap. (No edit summary, but was an edit summary really necessary?) Ah, then look what I dream of horses then did.... Hoary (talk) 01:37, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

@Hoary: No explanation for my reversal, other than I too, make mistakes. -- I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 03:48, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

I make them too, I dream of horses. No hard feelings. That said, however, recently I have noticed a pattern: (1) somebody adds infantile material to an article; (2) IP deletes this, with no edit summary; (3) established editor [almost-] automatically reinstates it. This is of course a pity in itself, but I suspect that it could be worse than this: that at least some of these anonymous, taciturn crap-removers are dabbling their toes in editing for the first time and potentially are creative as well as restorative editors. (Of course this kind of criticism is easy for me to make, as a glance at my edit history will show that for every one of my own garbage removals, another editor may be making dozens of restorations, the great majority of which are of restoration-worthy material.) -- Hoary (talk) 05:00, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

@Hoary: Thanks for noticing. It would've really helped if the IP editor gave an edit summary (not trying to say I didn't make a mistake, I did), therefore I gave him a notification about edit summary on his talk page. Cheers, Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 06:49, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

DatGuy vs Datguy

I am pretty inactive on Wikipedia, but I noticed today that it allowed you to create DatGuy even though I've had the Datguy account since 2014 (pay no attention to the fact that I never created my user page). What's more troubling is when I logged in today I had two alerts that look like they were meant for you (mentions in other people's talk pages). Is it common for Wikipedia to confuse users this way? Datguy (talk) 16:30, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@Datguy: Really? What were the notifications? And hello, brother. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 16:32, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@DatGuy: Greetings, DatGuy! I looked further, and it appears it was user error - in both cases they pinged me in their first edit then corrected it in the next edit:

• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Improve_categories&diff=next&oldid=733268650
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Bibekbhurtel5&diff=next&oldid=731419296

So it looks like there's no problem, other than possible confusion. It's not a new problem though; I have an old post on my (neglected) blog about various Datguys on the internet... Datguy (talk) 17:16, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@Datguy: Thanks for the diffs. Also, does that mean that we have a big family? :D. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:24, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

New article: Juan Battle (living person)

Hi @Datguy:: You added a header that read: This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions. (August 2016).

But this is not an orphan article. there are dozens of links within the article. I am not sure what you are missing but I made sure there were ample links introduced. Sociology is linked. Several grant institutions are linked as well as non profits. And several categories of sociological study are linked. I reverted your edit, ok? Before we go back and forth, I wanted to reach out on your talk page. Thanks for your cooperation! --sheridanford (talk) 20:31, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@SheridanFord: The template states 'as no other articles link to it'. That is different than a deadend tag, which says that you should introduce links from this article to other articles. Also, you re-added the template with this edit. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:36, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

With this edit, you basically changed it back to what I edited (including the commas, etc.) and just added a reference and some words in the lead. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:41, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

--Reply to: DatGuy Got it! My amygdala got away with me. I misread your note. This was my first article creation. Appreciate your help! Apologies for getting triggered. Thx --sheridanford (talk) 20:47, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

@SheridanFord: Anyone said triggered? ;). Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 20:50, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Request on 15:59:59, 20 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Cheveners

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Cheveners (talk) 15:59, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Hullo DatGuy,

Sincerest apologies for disturbing you!

Through this entry 'Cheveners' I wish to share with the Wikipedia users about the word 'Cheveners'. In old England, it was a trade-craft. People who used to embroider on hosiery or lace were called as Cheveners.

I did submit a lot of significant references. I really want to learn from you why is the article 'Cheveners' as an entry in encyclopedia isn't acceptable in the present way.

I do recognise that I am making mistakes. But a little hand-holding in the initial stage will be really helpful and much appreciated.

But there is a modern meaning, as recent as couple of decades, but caught up only in the past couple of years. Chevening is a programme like Fulbright. The awardees are called Cheveners. I have given only one citation of a British government website. Many more could be given. Many modern Cheveners, around the world, are serving parliamentarians, leading authors, heads of state etc. So, the word has a clear significance.

Later, I will update more information and citations of the old usage.

I am reproducing the details of my entry after my name.

I look forward to help.

With every good wish, Cheveners

There are scores of informal groups of Chevening scholars, fellows, and alumni on various social media like LinkedIn, facebook, etc.

In many countries there are more than one formal groups registered with various country-specific government registering/regulating authorities, eg., Registrar of Societies, Registrar of Trusts, Registrar of Companies etc. Such formal groups are generally territory (country) or theme (eg environment) oriented only.

Cheveners UNITED is the informal, inclusive, independent, and complimentary confederation of positive minded Chevening scholars, fellows, alumni, and our groupings. We embroider synchronisation, integration, and leveraging of our individual & united energies. We better the world. We do this via, inter-alia, strengthening relationships with the UK and advancement of mutual social, professional, and personal lives.

The group first debuted on WhatsApp, as a group of Chevening alumnni from India, on 16th January 2016. Within a short period of time, it emerged as the largest and the most communicative group of Chevening alumni on any mobile chat application in the world, with a typical chat history of about 100 pages a month.

As a response to increasing number of requests from Cheveners outside of India, especially from China and Africa, it soon adopted a global outlook. While the WhatsApp group continues to be for India, Cheveners UNITED started new country specific groups, on other mobile chat apps like WeChat for China & Hong Kong SAR, and another one for Russia, and the republics of the Former Soviet Union.

While the mobile chat app presence of Cheveners UNITED is country / region specific, all other presence on other social media is for Chevening alumni from the world over.

Some examples of these are: Blog: https://cheveners.wordpress.com/https://cheveners.wordpress.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/cheveners/https://www.facebook.com/groups/cheveners/ www.facebook.com/cheveners www.facebook.com/cheveners LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Cheveners-10310326/about https://www.linkedin.com/groups/Cheveners-10310326/about Twitter: https://twitter.com/Cheveners https://twitter.com/Cheveners @Cheveners

Email: chevenersunited@gmail.com

Website: www.cheveners.org http://cheveners.org

Past Activities of Cheveners UNITED 1. Online

1.1 Greeting-cardsCheveners Greeting Cards The group has collaboratively produced six greeting-cards on various occasions, eg Easter, since January 2016.

1.2 Directory It has privately-published an online abridged directory of the members of Cheveners UNITED

1.3 Mini BookCheveners MiniBook on World Camera Day The group has privately-published a collaborative Mini Book on the World Camera Day titled Cheveners Camera for the Soul: 15 Human & Animal Stories for Childlikes & Adults By 16 Childish Scribes & Shutter-Bugs!

2. OfflineCheveners Walks The offline activities have been, obviously, location specific. The group members have gone on two heritage-cum-environment walks.

3. Cheveners songThe Song of Cheveners of All Earths The Cheveners song titled The Song of Cheveners of All EarthsThe Making of the Cheveners Song was produced collaboratively by Cheveners. Its first offline live performance happened at the official residence of the British High Commissioner to India on 3rd June 2016 on the eve of the World Environment Day.

@Cheveners: See referencing for beginners and citing sources for how to properly cite references. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 16:02, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

Fungo Mungo etc

Hallo, When you find something as obviously CSD-A1 as Fungo Mungo, please don't bother to add {{stub}}. That adds it to Category:Stubs where someone will waste time looking at it to see how to stub-sort it. Thanks. PamD 10:55, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Canadian Ambassador is another example. PamD 11:16, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

@PamD: Apologies, I'm attempting to clear the CheckWiki backlog while also doing an AWB run. Thanks for spotting them! Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 11:18, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

I'm now doing one at a time but I do not recall all of these additions.... Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 11:30, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Alex Borstein

Hi there!

I couldn't help but notice that you reverted vandalism back into the article Alex Borstein. An accident, I'm sure, but perhaps one that could've been avoided by checking the history when you came across the broken infobox. Just thought I'd let you know about it. Happy editing!

Regards, decltype (talk) 09:51, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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Edits made on the Australian College of Natural Medicine page

Hi there! The page was obviously written as an advertisement for the college. I believe its fine to document the institution, but it needed some work. I've made some edits this time whilst retaining the larger body of text, and summed up my edits in the edit summary. Thanks for the heads up. Timothy Tedmanson (talk) 17:24, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

Sure! Don't forget to leave an edit summary though to make it clearer to counter-vandalism patrollers. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:27, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

09:22:53, 26 August 2016 review of submission by 178.135.88.154

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  • Draft:Joy Alexandre Harb (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Reviewer,

i hope everything is great, i am writing this article by combining many different sources from websites about the company of joy alexandre harb architects. Showing his works, publications in magazines and awards. May i kindly ask you to let me know what is missing on my page to be reviewed? i have compared with other architect pages such as zaha hadid, tadao and, jean nouvel, and their writings is the same.

See the Manual of Style guidelines I linked in the decline. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:28, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

2003 European heat wave revert

What led you to make this revert DatGuy? Although the figure of 9,000 has been there a long time, the reference does clearly state 300 deaths in Germany - look under the Human Health section: "There were also heat-related deaths in ... Germany (300)".: Noyster (talk), 22:34, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Request on 12:47:02, 28 August 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by HD212

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Hi: I made the submission more neutral by taking any discussion of "quality" out that was not neutral, and I added more on the cost comparison only - without making inferences as to different types of pianos. HD212 (talk) 12:47, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

HD212 (talk) 12:47, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

@HD212: See MOS:Layout. Also see what I linked you in my declines. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

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where is the most issue with the article for using references? I used articles that are in the mainstay for piano reviews or history. Is it a specific place, or do I just need more references?

See the links on the draft. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 12:51, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

I added more reliable sources that are based on previously accepted Wikipedia articles, as well as from authors in the field. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HD212 (talk • contribs) 14:21, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

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You indicate to go to your talk page for suggestions for specific reference sites. I am not seeing it. If you are referring to the general support sites, I did use those. Thank you for more specific support.

HD212 (talk) 14:28, 28 August 2016 (UTC) @HD212: Please come to IRC. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 14:30, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

I found it. I will make the references as needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HD212 (talk • contribs) 14:32, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Edit to page "Hiberno-English" 2016-08-26

You undid an small edit I made on the page "Hiberno-English" as it was "not constructive" and marked it as a test/vandalism. The edit was not a test, a vandalism, or an experiment. A sentence in Dialect was marked as requiring clarification, so I placed a standard English version of the sentence beside it to provide that clarification. If you feel that was not the clarification being sought, what do you think the clarification should be? Otherwise what do you feel was inappropriate about my edit so that I can avoid mistakes in future? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seonaxus (talk • contribs) 23:03, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks :-)

That was the template I was looking for! Rookie admin mistake, I guess :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:37, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit to TVBS

Hi, the contents I just removed are out of date. I tried to update some new contents but had been undone by an automated computer program called ClueBot NG. Please, let me do the right thing. jerrymonkey (talk) 00:22, 31 August 2016

Even if it's out-of-date, there are still reliable sources proving that it's been there. If you'd like, I believe you can add 'former.' Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 05:46, 31 August 2016 (UTC)