User talk:Gyrofrog/2011Jan-Jun

This is the archive of comments added to User talk:Gyrofrog from January 2011 through June 2011. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 04:40, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

Request for Admin Status in the somali wikipedia.

I Kindly Request you if you could make me one of the admins on somali wikipedia.I would like to contribute to that somali language based wikipedia.this is me http://so.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Addoow. --Addoow 12:47, 31 December 2010 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Addoow (talk • contribs)

Left response at User talk:Addoow. -- Gyrofrog 21:06, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Invitation

hey, wanna join mah group?

Dear Gyrofrog/2011Jan-Jun,

I am inviting you to join the Miles Davis WikiProject. I found you, Gyrofrog/2011Jan-Jun, on several revision history statistics of articles related with "Miles Davis", and therefore I am of the opinion, that you should be one of those members of this WikiProject I recently created. I hope you will approve my invitation.

Regards,

-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 23:14, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

WikiXDC: Wikipedia 10th Birthday!

National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)

You are invited to WikiXDC, a special meetup event and celebration on Saturday, January 22 hosted by the National Archives and Records Administration in downtown Washington, D.C.

• Date: January 22, 2011 (tentatively 9:30 AM - 5 PM)
• Location: National Archives and Records Administration (NARA), downtown building, Pennsylvania Avenue & 7th St NW.
• Description: There will be a behind-the-scenes tour of the National Archives and you will learn more about what NARA does. We will also have a mini-film screening featuring FedFlix videos along with a special message from Jimmy Wales. In the afternoon, there will be lightning talks by Wikimedians (signup to speak), wiki-trivia, and cupcakes to celebrate!
• Details & RSVP: Details about the event are on our Washington, DC tenwiki page.

Please RSVP soon as possible, as there likely will be a cap on number of attendees that NARA can accommodate.

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Oromia Region

Information on the article "Oromia Region" has significant errors, further reasearch must be done on the writers part. As an admin you may be able to reasearch furthermore and make this article as accurate as possible. Thank You.Asg5r (talk) 21:03, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Asg5r. -- Gyrofrog 23:56, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Socks

Hi Gyrofrog. I am concerned about the level of sockpuppetry on the Somalia article. One anonymous IP, single-purpose account and recently-created account after another have been attempting to modify the exact same portion of the article, using the exact same arguments. This usually involves the sentence in the introduction that reads "While it still has room for improvement, the interim government continues to reach out to both Somali and international stakeholders to help grow the administrative capacity of the Transitional Federal Institutions and to work toward eventual national elections in 2011", which is sourced to the CIA [1]: "while its institutions remain weak, the TFG continues to reach out to Somali stakeholders and to work with international donors to help build the governance capacity of the TFIs and to work toward national elections in 2011." Is there anyway to stop this disruption or would you recommend I just write up a sockpuppet case? Is full page protection warranted or is that only a bandaid solution? Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:29, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Middayexpress. -- Gyrofrog 23:46, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Eritrean–Ethiopian War

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		For your vigilant work and efforts over the last few years on the Eritrean–Ethiopian War article. -- PBS (talk) 10:27, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you!-- Gyrofrog 15:03, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

NWHS wiki

Your definition of notable is incorrect. The idea of wikipedia is to come together with a concept of creating a database filled with knowledge and if adding a High School record that has stood for over 20 years is not cause for someone to be mention, well than I don't know what is. Your ignorance seems to be unmatched to the rest of the wiki community. Also to be an administrator and not know the terms of use is just revolting. I will continue to add to NWHS wiki page despite your ignorant removal

Sincerely M.P.B.

Gtamaster12814 (talk) 22:51, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Gtamaster12814. -- Gyrofrog 23:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

I do, a first hand account, also the definition of ignorant is as follows: lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of the history of Northwestern High School. So calling someone ignorant is not an attack, it is simply a statement that is stating you do not have the necessary information to remove my post. So you should reread that article yourself.

M.P.B. Gtamaster12814 (talk) 23:07, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Gtamaster12814. -- Gyrofrog 23:20, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

First hand information is allowed, I have cited it and have a copy of the actual interview.

Gtamaster12814 (talk) 23:24, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Gtamaster12814. -- Gyrofrog 23:31, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

A little more ignorance, That is a valid citation acceptable in ALA and MLA format, also I have followed wiki procedure and did everything as I was asked, now if you can prove to me in anyway that said citation is actually not citation then you have nothing more to talk to me about.

Gtamaster12814 (talk) 23:39, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

See, you are wrong again, MLA/ALA are essay formats and the citation I used is supported and also verifiable. Now if you are going to tell me that the citation is not a citation, than you sir are quite misinformed, now if you look at the citation, it is an interview which you can not say is not verifiable.

Gtamaster12814 (talk) 23:50, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Concerning about the Ogaden

Hello The Ogaden comprises the bisggest portion of Somali Region. The Somali Region consists of 9 provinces, which 5 were part of Ogaden Raz Gez, a Province in the Derg Regime, the other four zones were not part of Ogaden Province during Haile Sellasie and Mengiustu haile Mariam. on the optherr hand. yes the map is the same, but am looking for the correct map of Ogaden in the near future.

On the other hand, the new census, although it is not official predicts that almost an estimated 2,300,000 people live in the Districts that Ogaden's inhabit. Note that the Somali region consists of 52 districts with varying population number.

Hope hearing from U GuledCasowe (talk) 03:38, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:GuledCasowe. -- Gyrofrog 03:53, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia

(moved from User:Gyrofrog; please leave messages on this talk page)
Wow. So I'm told to stop my 'disruptive editing' because I've 'vandalized'. Actually, I corrected two blatant errors - and the corrections were REVERSED. Welcome to Wikipedia. It could be so great. Unfortunately, it's wildly unreliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.68.206.149 (talk • contribs) 16:53, 23 January 2011

Left response at User talk:67.68.206.149. -- Gyrofrog 17:46, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

3RR

Hi Gyrofrog. One User:Danlaycock has just reported [2] me on the 3RR noticeboard for what he claims is "revert-warring". The situation is highly disingenuous since I actually only ever reverted twice (as did he, ironically enough), and so did another involved editor (whom he tellingly did not report). I've attempted to set the record straight, but I'm not certain if I'll get a fair shake. I would therefore definitely appreciate it if you were to keep an eye on the post just to make sure nothing fishy happens. Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 04:51, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Left message at WP:AN3. -- Gyrofrog 17:33, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

User:SikSok and Ayyubid dynasty article

This user[3] appears to have a problem understanding WP:RS and the removal/changing of references and referenced information. Can you help? Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Left message at User talk:Siksok. -- Gyrofrog 17:55, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Possible topic ban evasion User:BKLisenbee

Possible/ more than that,topic ban evasion [4] re [5] deleting good links and obsession in the Bowles , JJ area/ the same location of IP did much the same this time last year.

Catapla (talk) 23:27, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

Diffs eg [6] Catapla (talk) 23:29, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I've blocked the IP address and posted comments at WP:ANI ([7]). Thanks, -- Gyrofrog 23:51, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

More of the same see [8]. Especially disturbing is the removal of tags and refs and insertion of unsourced material and incorrect info here [9] can someone revert those bad edits ? Catapla (talk) 16:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

I started another ANI discussion. -- Gyrofrog 17:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Menilek on Aksumite/Abyssinian/Ethiopian Religion & History

Besides the fact that I am both a member of the royal family as well as at the top level in my nation's oldest church denomination, I am also a historian of both.

To answer your cited causes for the reversion:

1) Regarding Ethiopian history, the fact that a referenced source is older, means that it is less likely to have suffered latter-day Marxist revisionism and thus such older sources are usually known to be more credible, especially when written by an outside independent author, such as Sir Charles F. Rey, an English lord who made Abyssinian life and history his own life's study. His books are uninfluenced by the revisionist agenda of Marxist propaganda. He had nobody to answer to but God and the Queen of England. Therefore being so unencumbered by Ethiopian politics, he is to be seen as an unbiased source intimately familiar with his subject matter.

2) The three sources I cited were for all of the edits, not just the edit next to the ref link. This was to avoid redundant citations appearing in the references list, which itself, is not a bad goal. Would you rather see the same source listed numerous times, once for each point of info being cited from the same source? That should be unnecessary when the first reference citing that source has already directed the reader to read that source and if they did, they would see all of the points that were being cited, especially if more than one of said points of info are on the same page or in the same appendix, the latter definitely being the case here referring to the official complete list of monarchs the royal family provided to Rey to include in his book, showing which monarchs began their reign and how many years they reigned and in which order they reigned and which dynasty of which their reign was a part. Such an index of names and dates WAS the source for a number of points I made in my edits. Am I expected to cite the same page over and over, once for each and every point? If your answer is that you did not realize that this was the case, I must ask, aren't you supposed to know that before you do such a reversion, to make sure that you have not reverted the edits on a false assumption on your part? For the reason you gave for reverting, indeed did constitute just that... a false assumption that I had not cited the source for multiple points when I HAD cited the source once already because the source was a source for more than one point that had been edited. I am only required to cite the source but I do not think that I am required to cite which line on the page, when I have already cited the page.

3) You said "The remainder of your edits lacked attribution, save for the Kebra Nagast, which we can't cite as a source (at least, not in the context that you cited it: see WP:RNPOV)." Items 1 and 2 above explains that the references I gave were attribution for the edits you thought were without attribution. However in that same statement, you also claim that the Kebra Negast was NOT an acceptable source for the context of my edit for which it was cited. However, it actually is. the fact that you said this makes me wonder, have you even read the Kebra Negast? Do you know what events of which Kebra Negast is a record? Intimate knowledge of this apocryphal work is needed before claiming that it is not a source for a point or context being associated with it. For me it is more than just an interesting text sitting on the shelf. But for me Kebra Negast is a required textbook from which I teach the history of my people and my faith, of which Kebra Negast is a historical record, just as 1 & 2 Maccabees would be a required text if you were a teacher of the Greek occupation of Israel. As the current rasnebiy ye Bete Yisrael, I am the head proclaimer and guardian of doctrine for Bete Yisrael, which includes all supportive historical and apocryphal data, not just scripture. So this is not merely a curiosity for me. It is my job and my life. As such an expert on the subject, that means that I to, myself, AM a source.

4) You said "However, the source (and the Bible) use the term "Ethiopia," which more likely means Aethiopia (Classical Greek term), referring to the Kingdom of Kush rather than Ethiopia in the modern sense. Aksum itself is not mentioned."

The fact is that the Greek term "Aethiopia" is the same term as the English "Ethiopia" and is a combination of the Greek word Aethi and Opi combined as a phrase, which unarguably DOES translate as "burnt-faces" an ancient Κοινά (common) Greek pejorative for any people of such dark complexion as are people from Africa or certain parts of India. People of the "classical Greek" period were not above poking fun at such obvious differences from their own appearance. IE: 20th century Americans never cornered the historical market on being bigoted jerks, although there are people in the world who would disagree on that point, yet without just cause. One can not honestly deny that human nature is prevalent in a portion of every human society.

And to declare, as you did, that Aksum is not mentioned, when discussing "Ethiopia" is the same thing as claiming that Kurdistan is not mentioned when you discuss the area bordering Iran, Iraq and Turkey or to say that Israel is not mentioned when you discuss 1938 "Palestine". Just because a defacto government has taken over and occupies a place, does not ever negate that those who were robbed of their right to govern cease to be the legitimate government de jur. Whoever told you that Bete Yisrael,(IE: the remaining descendants of the Empire of Aksum), ever surrendered or that we ever ceded our empire, has grossly misinformed you. Nothing was surrendered. Nothing was ceded. It is merely under occupation, but as long as Tsion (the Ark) resides in that land, then that land is rightfully ours to rule, even when we do not have the power to do so, just as if the theft of your car would never mean that your stolen car ever could truly become the rightful property of those who wrongly possess it. Stolen property forever remains stolen property until returned to its rightful owner. My point is that that which you call Ethiopia IS Aksum and shall not cease to BELONG to Aksum until it has been officially ceded by a properly seated Messianic Aksumite-Judean monarch and that will never happen for every descendant of Menilek I would rather die first, as many of us already have.

Most sincerely,

T'ru Daniel Menilek,

Current rasnebiy to Bete Yisrael and to the Negusa Tsion, Ras Mengesha Seyoum;

Retired Abamenet of Bisrat Nazretawi and of Gedam Qidus Selassie ye Tsion.

If you have any further comments or questions, please use BeteYisrael*Gmail.com (put an @ in place of *) because this "talk page" format is too difficult to master and use. I probably have not done so correctly, here, now. I wonder if they make it hard to respond on purpose, refusing to install a proper standard editor with standard commands and functions, just to discourage anyone from standing up to Wikipedia, which is notorious on a global scale for bullying would-be contributors who disagree with obstructors who are appointed and sanctioned by wikipedia's elitists. People like me are intimidated into feeling like a black jew trying to access a 1950's country club golf course in a WASP neighborhood. But then, I am a black jew. So there you have it.

[Menilek] ጥሩ ምኒልክ (ራስነቢይ የ ቤት ዪሥራእል / አበምኔት ቢሥርዓት ናዝረታዊ) 06:00, 13 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Menilek (talk • contribs)

Left response at User talk:Menilek. -- Gyrofrog 00:13, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Response left was:

[Gyrofrog] I see your point about how footnoting every sentence could make for a clumsy appearance. However, all of the sentences raised questions for me.

[Menilek's answer] I fail to see how you could make that leap (pun not intended). i can't see that conclusion being drawn without unwarranted amount of eisogesis and presumption. I gave you no basis in fact to draw such a conclusion. If you really meant questions as you say, you should have asked them, but when i read what you said on the ANI Discussion, I saw unfounded charges, not questions. Questions would have been quite fair to tender. So there we are again with this problem of 'leaping'.

[Gyrofrog continued] Regardless of your position (and no disrespect intended), you are citing yourself

[Menilek's answer] Absolutely not! There was no evident cause in my edits to say that. Q: Did I cite myself? A: NO! Q: What did I cite? A: Only published historical texts that are accepted as authoritative and none of which I was the author.

[Gyrofrog continued] and the only place I've seen that equates the Ethiopia mentioned in Acts 8 with Aksum is in your declarations on my talk page. Thank you. -- Gyrofrog (talk) 00:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

[Menilek's answer] So is your complaint about my failure to explain the time-line better, so that less informed people could grasp (as you did not) that during the New Testament era, there was no such nation named Ethiopia, because,(as any informed history student is supposed to already KNOW), at that time the name of that empire was Aksum? And if that would be your complaint, then I'd have to guess that part of that complaint would also be that I also failed to inform the reader that the Bible's English translators, instead of saying "Ethiopia", should have used the terms "Kush" in the Old Testament and "Aksum" in the New Testament, but instead chose to use the name more familiar to their readers, which is why they call such a practice "Anglicization"? Am I to take the blame because anglicizing translators failed to use the correct terms of the era of the text they were translating? Am I wrong to believe and to act as if "Words mean things and Truth has NEVER been a matter of popularity, therefore common popular use is no excuse to label a mistake as Truth, and that is what is wrong with populism." (NOW in THAT specific statement I must admit that I am quoting myself, and I promise that when I am quoting myself, I will try to remember always to let you know it! and thus, leave nothing to be fodder for presumption, if that suits you, sir).

Okay, I must admit, I forgot that some people might not grasp that Aksum was the true historical name of that empire when the New Testament books were being written. I am sorry that you did not know this, but I am used to teaching people of more advanced knowledge. Maybe I need someone who is and who is more familiar with Wikipedia to help me contribute information. But the last time I had an assistant, they could not even transliterate my name correctly, much less do the editing job right. I have all but given up on finding such a volunteer before I am gone.

[Inserted after saving] It is not even difficult to know that what you call Ethiopia was actually an empire named Aksum from at least BC 250 to AD 360 (the strongest years of the empire, not the entire period of its existence). The places where this able to be looked up are numerous. If you do not know this I must ask why are you involved with the wiki project for Ethiopia? I also would like to know if there is any truth to the accusation others made about you and TPLF. I will not accuse, I am only asking you to explain it, because even though my family is of Tigray, most of us Tigrayan people are against the Marxist TPLF and want the monarchy reinstated. We view TPLF as the heirs of Mengistu now acting as the puppeteers pulling the puppet strings of Meles Zenawi (a more veiled Marxist than Mengistu was). We the people highly resent fascism and Marxism tearing Tigray and Eritrea apart, estranging us from being reunited as one Tigriña-speaking province again as it was before the Italians and all the ism's came along.

I hope I have answered the concerns you addressed. Last time I invited you to email me further questions, instead you decided to ask the administrators to lop off my access. I have no qualms about answering to administrators, but there we go again with that leaping problem. Try smaller incremental steps to resolve things instead of leaps. You might find it more diplomatic as well as more helpful to do so. After all, I did offer to talk about it and try to resolve things, but you decided not to be that diplomatic. Why? I am neither hostile nor unreasonable. But how would you know that if you are unwilling to communicate? To quote myself once more, if I may "Communication is the best antithesis to misunderstanding". Would you not agree? Or are you of the elitist attitude that there is nothing you could learn by communicating with me? I hope not. That attitude sometimes even makes people feel that they are too good to even read what the other person has to say. I try to never take that attitude. I'd have to feel ashamed if I did. Prejudging is not only wrong, it is also the basis of the term "prejudice". That is something to think about.

[Menilek] ጥሩ ምኒልክ (ራስነቢይ የ ቤት ዪሥራእል / አበምኔት ቢሥርዓት ናዝረታዊ) 03:18, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Menilek. -- Gyrofrog 15:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

difflinks

I use {{diff}}, so that it renders properly on whichever WP server you're using.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:14, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Alice Coltrane page

Hi Gyrofrog, thank you for responding to my adds on the Alice Coltrane page. I recently co-hosted a radio show on her music so I wanted to update some information.

I do have a concern about her page and would like to find out how it could be rectified. Mel Etitis who started Alice's wiki page is now retired from the wikipedia otherwise I'd ask him/her about it.

In the introduction to Alice's page she is defined as "Alice Coltrane, née McLeod (August 27, 1937 – January 12, 2007) was an American jazz pianist, organist, harpist, composer, and the wife of John Coltrane."

I don't believe that she should be defined as the wife of John Coltrane. She rose to international prominence as the PIANIST in his band. The important aspect is that she was his pianist (despite the fact that she was also married to him). The bass player Ray Brown is less famous than his wife Ella Fitzgerald, he is not defined as the husband of Ella Fitzgerald.

How can we rectify this?

Monik

Saxgirl66 (talk) 22:15, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

The article now says that she is "... the wife/pianist of John Coltrane." The edit summary states, "She was also his pianist, as User:Saxgirl66 pointed out, and being his pianist probably made her more notable than being his wife (although she was his wife first)." Let me know on my user talk page if you'd like more help, or put a {{help me}} template on your own user talk page and someone will be to help you. :) Banaticus (talk) 22:51, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikimania 2012 bid, DC chapter & next meetup!

1. At WikiXDC in January, User:Harej proposed that DC submit a bid to host Wikimania 2012. A bid and organizing committee is being formed and seeks additional volunteers to help. Please look at our bid page and sign up if you want to help out. You can also signup for the bid team's email list.
2. To support the Wikimania bid, more events like WikiXDC, and outreach activities like collaborations with the Smithsonian (ongoing) and National Archives, there also has been discussion of forming Wikimedia DC, as an official Wikimedia chapter. You can express interest and contribute to chapter discussions on the Wikimedia DC Meta-Wiki pages.
3. To discuss all this and meet up with special guest, Dutch Wikipedian User:Kim Bruning, there will be a meetup, Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 16 this Tuesday at 7pm, at Capitol City Brewery, Metro Center. There will be a pre-meetup Wikimania team meeting at 6pm at the same location.

Apologies for the short notice for this meetup, but let's discuss when, where & what for DC Meetup #17. Also, if you haven't yet, please join wikimedia-dc mailing list to stay informed. Cheers, User:Aude (talk)

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SikSok[10] sockpuppet

This editor Emirgan1980[11] has also been removing the word "Kurdish" from the article Egypt. He has been warned numerous times about removing the word "Kurdish"[12] and apparently has decided to embark on a hate crusade against me[13][14]. Could you look into this? Thank you. --Kansas Bear (talk) 18:15, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Y Done. Blocked Emirgan1980 (talk · contribs); see WP:DUCK. -- Gyrofrog 20:24, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Remembering the Moment

Thanks for your message. it's nice to know that the articles I create are actually for albums that others listen to although I too am suprised at the synchronicity of my addition and your search. DISEman (talk) 00:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm not spamming

Hello,

To whom it may concern, I am writing to tell you that I am not spamming. The post I am putting up are legitimate. The artist that I am posting to have made special releases (Vinyl, CDs, and DVDs) with Record Store Day. I have been asked by Michael Kurtz and Carrie Colliton of Record Store Day (www.recordstoreday.com) to make the postings for the artist. I am requesting that you PLEASE allow these postings to be put on Wikipedia.

Dano999 (talk) 17:47, 17 March 2011 (UTC)Dan Kurtz

Left response at User talk:Dano999. -- Gyrofrog 19:00, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

File:Isaaq.jpg

Hi, I removed your Template:Disputed diagram template, as it's not a chemical diagram as the template says.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:19, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Republic of Ogadenia

Hello! I am new to wikipedias editing section thats why I had no clue on how to create similar templates as other countries and I came across that I could actually copy others and rewrite and as Somaliland is a breakaway region so is the Ogaden and thats why I copied Somalilands template. I did a few mistakes and forgot to edit a few things, but hopefully now it is a real article that has no errors. I have provided the article with references and sources that I wasnt sure of how do to at first but later got the hang of it. I still need to copy because I am incapable of understanding and remembering all these sorts of "computer signs". I am also sorry for deleting something that you had edited, it was a mistake and I didnt realize that it had to be on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walkazy (talk • contribs) 21:26, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Walkazy. -- Gyrofrog 15:08, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

DC Meetup: May 7 @ Tenleytown Library

The next DC Wikimedia meetup is scheduled for Saturday, May 7, 3:30-5:30 pm at the Tenleytown Library (adjacent to the Tenleytown Metro Station, Red Line), followed by dinner & socializing at some nearby place.

This is the first official meeting of our proposed Wikimedia DC chapter, with discussion of bylaws and next steps. Other agenda items include, update everyone on our successful Wikimania bid and next steps in the planning process, discuss upcoming activities that we want to do over the summer and fall, and more.

Please RSVP here and see a list of additional tentatively planned meetups & activities for late May & June on the Wikipedia:Meetup/DC page.

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More Ja jou

As User talk:FayssalFis no longer so active I thought to bring this to your attention

re

Diff http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brian_Jones_Presents_the_Pipes_of_Pan_at_Joujouka&diff=prev&oldid=427575490

by User:Shingleton

firstly his contribution of external links to blog posts are prohibited under User:FayssalF‎ guidelines for mediation at [[15]]

However User:Shingleton seems to be mostly concerned as a minor link farm to his own blog in contravention of [[16]] see [[17]] the links added overtime are to his own articles on his blog. See for ownership of blog http://doublebassblog.org/2007/07/on-an-overgrown-paths-bob-shingleton-discusses-blogging-on-video.html

Strangely similar names.

Re Ja Jou see

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:FayssalF/JK/Archive]]

Though interesting the blog posts as links violate a previously instigated mediation process which prohibits links to blog posts on sites involved in process and should be removed .

All best

Catapla (talk) 23:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Seeking your thoughts on POV edits to Asylum Street Spankers?

I noticed this one on the Jazz Watchlist yesterday. There's some quite disturbing stuff on the history of the article indicating levels of acrimony spilling into the editing. A couple of these are well into BLP territory: this edit and this edit. This stuff has already been cleaned off a couple of times but has then come back, so it feels like it needs more decisive action. Thoughts? AllyD (talk) 20:01, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:AllyD. -- Gyrofrog 14:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Hawiye & Galmudug

Hi Gyrofrog. There's a user over on the Galkacyo article who has been making a series of what appear to be anti-Hawiye edits. Specifically, he has been removing all reference to the Hawiye-dominated Galmudug administration (although the latter polity controls the southern part of the city and actually considers it its capital), replacing it with just Puntland references. Galkacyo is a divided city wherein Puntland controls the northern section, and Galmudug controls the southern tip. Both regional administrations understand this and have officially agreed to work together to improve local security & other matters (c.f. Galmudug Accord [18]); they also share the city airport's tax revenue [19]. The user, however, seems reluctant to acknowledge this. More troubling, he has also added text blaming the clan for a series of targeted assassination attempts & bombings, although none of the sources he cited does. I have tried reasoning with him on the article's talk page, but to no apparent effect. He has also nominated the Galmudug article for deletion [20] (which he vandalized in the past with similar anti-Hawiye edits [21], [22], [23]), claiming that no such administration exists. Taken together, it doesn't look good. Would you mind having a word when you're free? Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 23:03, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

I left a note for the editor in question, and weighed in at the AfD page. -- Gyrofrog 16:33, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Middayexpress (talk) 18:20, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Hello again. The editor appears to have ignored the talk page warning you left him, as he has again removed all reference to the Galmudug administration from the Galkacyo article ([24]). He also now appears to be using IPs to avoid breaching WP:3RR (c.f. [25]). Best regards, Middayexpress (talk) 04:58, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Left note for the IP in question, and left a response at User talk:Middayexpress. -- Gyrofrog 20:20, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

I think I figured out who the IP might be; c.f. [26]. Also, both complain in their edit summaries about the Leelkase not being included, not to mention the sequence of edits. Cheers, Middayexpress (talk) 18:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Gyrofrog 17:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Your excellency, i kindly would like to request from you to make my user as a Somali Admin wikipedia, so i will be able to contribute more articles on Sheikhaal Clan.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiikhaaloow (talk • contribs) 21:07, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Shiikhaaloow. -- Gyrofrog 21:22, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Tigray Region

1. Tigray Region has some distorted information and it should be corrected.For example, Tigray regions should not include the city of Humera because this city(Humera) is belong to province of Gondar.
2. Tigray's border to the west is not Sudan.Tigray's border to the west is Gondar. When the dictator government(Wayana's) is over(fallen),the city of Humera will be return to Gondar. Wayana's dictators took fertile land from the provience Gondar and Wollo and that causes civil unrest and war.
   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mekonnen5 (talk • contribs) 08:16, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:Mekonnen5. See also Talk:Tigray Region#Bordering areas and User talk:216.73.192.234. -- Gyrofrog 16:25, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

Taajir

Sounds good to me. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 22:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Religion in Somalia

Not all Somali(an)s are Muslims you know. There is a growing minority of people who are sceptic towards religion. However I do agree that the vast majority are Islamic. 22:28, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Left response at User talk:78.148.238.80. -- Gyrofrog 22:41, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Marilyn Monroe

Hi Gyrofrog/Joe,

You mistakenly un-did a correction I made to the page about the death of Marilyn Monroe, ostensibly because the correction I made was not sourced. It is common knowledge and mentioned in dozens of books that Monroe spoke to Joe DiMaggio Jr. (the ballplayer's son) on the night she died, not Joe Sr. That fact is even mentioned on Joe Sr.'s Wikipedia page. (I am a newspaper entertainment reporter who has read scores of books about Monroe--and am currently writing one myself.)

There are no sources for any of the other events in the death-of-Monroe timeline (which seems to have been cut-and-pasted from several sites like http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=131633736879319 that retain the reference to Joe Jr.), and sourcing that one would be like sourcing that JFK was the president of the U.S. at the time. The sentence, as you restored it, now says that Joe DiMiaggio Sr. (the ex-ballplayer) was on active duty in the Marines at the time of Monroe's death in 1962. That's silly, of course. Joltin' Joe was never in the Marines and would have been 47 years old in 1962! Look it up--Monroe was talking to Joe Jr. about Joe Jr's broken engagement to a young woman. It's public record, from his statements to the cops. Leaving erroneous info on the page is a disservice to Wikipedia (which you have enhanced in so many ways).

http://blog.everlasting-star.net/2011/03/relationships/joe-dimaggio-and-son/

http://www.greatest-unsolved-mysteries.com/marilyn-monroe-death.html

http://www.immortalmarilyn.com/TwilightTheMythsOfAugustFifth.html

Photos of Joe Jr. and Sr. at Monroe's funeral: http://crazypitch.com/joe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.225.237 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 18 June 2011

Left response at User talk:24.207.225.237. -- Gyrofrog 21:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Meles Zenawi

This is in response to your post on my talk page regarding Meles Zenawi article. You stated my contributions "did not appear to be constructive". I feel that your arrived at the characterization abruptly. I think I have legitimate points that are constructive.

1) Honorary degrees are a honor and are not an educational achievement. In the case of Bill Cosby, honorary degrees are in s separate section 'Honorary degrees'. In the case of Stephen Colbert the honorary degrees are in the 'Awards and honors section'. I do not understand why Melese Zenawi's honorary degree should be muddled with his education. Should it be placed in the honors section?

2) The article does not state that Meles Zenawi obtained his degree while in office. The typical person gets a degree before leading a country. In this case with the degree dates being much later than when the subject assumed power it is reasonable to think that people will assume the dates had an error. At the very least it will create some confusion. I was trying to rectify that by highlight that Open University was a distance education school. I should have done a better job at that. Perhaps the article should state that he got his education while he was the leader of a country.

I sure could have explained my changed better. I also feel it was a sweeping conclusion to call my contribution nonconstructive. I hope you are open to my suggestions. (Baryaw (talk) 18:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC))

Left response at User talk:Baryaw. -- Gyrofrog 20:29, 26 June 2011 (UTC)