Sextus Caedicius
May 2020
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DRN request over "Ingush people"
editHello, I've requested a Dispute Resoltuion to settle the dispute over the issue regarding the number of Ingush people. [1] Please check the link so we can have this settled. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deni Mataev (talk • contribs) 16:18, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
Translations
editWhen translating from foreign language versions of Wikipedia, such as at Ahmad Ramzi, you need to give attribution:
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Content in this edit is translated from the existing Russian Wikipedia article at ru:Ахмад Рамзи ибн Абдин; see its history for attribution.
- You should also add the template
{{Translated|ru|Ахмад Рамзи ибн Абдин}}
to the talk page. - For more guidance, see Wikipedia:Translation. --John B123 (talk) 21:43, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
- I note you are still not providing attribution when translating (Alexander Chechenskiy). Providing attribution in these circumstances is mandatory --John B123 (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello User:John B123, I must inform you that not a single piece of that article is directly translated from the Russian equivalent of that article, except the legacy section which I took and reworded. That article took me the better parts of an 1 and a half hours to create. Best regards --Sextus Caedicius (talk) 20:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- How coincidental that large parts of the article you wrote yourself are very similar to the Google translation of the Russian article. As by your own admission you have taken the "Legacy" section from the Russian article, you need to give attribution. --John B123 (talk) 20:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Are you accusing me of Google translating the article? Is there any way for you as an admin to check how long I spent with the article in edit mode? Just because the two articles have an overlap in sources doesn't mean I translated the article. If you so desire you can attribute the legacy section as a translation of the Russian version, but I would rather not that something I spent a fair amount of time on be attributed to another party. --Sextus Caedicius (talk) 20:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not accusing you of anything, just remarking on how close your "original" article is to a translation of the Russian article, which is not the same thing as an overlap of sources.
- From the English version, section "Early life" Alexander was captured as a five year old during a Tsarist raid on the Chechen village of Aldi, his birth name was Ali. His mother Rahimat died in childbirth. The father of the child, Alkhazur fell in battle with the Tsarist troops attacking his aul. He was taken up by a sixteen-year-old lieutenant Nikolay Raevsky. The boy was baptised Alexander Nikolayevich Chechenskiy. He grew up in Kamenka in Little Russia with the mother of Nikolai Raevsky, Ekaterina Nikolaevna
- And the corresponding Russian section: As a boy, he was captured during one of the tsarist raids on the ancestral village of Sheikh Mansur Alda. The birth name is Ali. His mother Rahimat died in childbirth. Father Alkhazur fell in battle with the troops occupying the aul. He was taken up by a sixteen-year-old lieutenant , later the famous general Nikolai Nikolaevich Raevsky . The teenager was christened Alexander Nikolayevich Chechen. He grew up in Kamenka in Little Russia with the mother of Nikolai Raevsky, Ekaterina Nikolaevna.
- It's not up to me to give attribution, you're the author. I'm not an admin by the way. --John B123 (talk) 22:00, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Even though I didn't translate it, I have added the template to the talk pageSextus Caedicius (talk) 13:54, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not accusing you of anything, just remarking on how close your "original" article is to a translation of the Russian article, which is not the same thing as an overlap of sources.
- Are you accusing me of Google translating the article? Is there any way for you as an admin to check how long I spent with the article in edit mode? Just because the two articles have an overlap in sources doesn't mean I translated the article. If you so desire you can attribute the legacy section as a translation of the Russian version, but I would rather not that something I spent a fair amount of time on be attributed to another party. --Sextus Caedicius (talk) 20:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- How coincidental that large parts of the article you wrote yourself are very similar to the Google translation of the Russian article. As by your own admission you have taken the "Legacy" section from the Russian article, you need to give attribution. --John B123 (talk) 20:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello User:John B123, I must inform you that not a single piece of that article is directly translated from the Russian equivalent of that article, except the legacy section which I took and reworded. That article took me the better parts of an 1 and a half hours to create. Best regards --Sextus Caedicius (talk) 20:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Indo-European in Caucasus
editIt's not a fringe theory that Indo-European languages had an early presence in the Caucasus region, or the South Caucasus. There's a growing academic consensus on this possibility, which is backed up by genetics:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-018-08220-8
Harvard geneticist David Reich, author of the influential Who We Are And How We Got Here (2018) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reich_(geneticist)#Indo-European_origins
Additionally, from Wikipedia (just because it's a summary):
Haak et al. (2015) state that "the Armenian plateau hypothesis gains in plausibility" given the Near Eastern ancestry in Yamnaya, but also state that "the question of what languages were spoken" by the ancestral steppe hunter-gatherers and the southern ancestors "remains open."[115][note 16]
According to Damgaard et al. (2018), between 5,000 and 3,000 BCE, during the Copper Age, there was "extensive population contact between the Caucasus and the steppe,"[34] The typical steppe ancestry probably developed during this time.[34] Damgaard et al. (2018) notice that they "cannot at this point reject a scenario in which the introduction of the Anatolian IE languages into Anatolia was coupled with the CHG-derived admixture before 3700 BCE," but also state that "this is contrary to the standard view that PIE arose in the steppe north of the Caucasus and that CHG ancestry is also associated with several non-IE-speaking groups, historical and current."[34]
Kristian Kristiansen, in an interview with Der Spiegel in May 2018, stated that the Yamnaya culture may have had a predecessor at the Caucasus, where "proto-proto-Indo-European" was spoken.[114] I 2020 he argued that the Maykop-culture may have been the bearer op pre-PIE.[97] David Reich has repeatedly suggested the possibility of a Caucasian origin of archaic PIE,[116][40] but does not exclude the possibility of a steppe origin of the Anatolian languages.[117][note 17] According to Reich, between 5,000 and 3,000 BCE the CHG-carriers, people related to Armenians and Iranians, migrated from the south to the steppes and encountered local Eastern European hunter-gatherers (EHG peoples).[118]
Wang et al. (2018) note that the Caucasus served as a corridor for gene flow between the steppe and cultures south of the Caucasus during the Eneolithic and the Bronze Age, stating that this "opens up the possibility of a homeland of PIE south of the Caucasus." However, Wang et al. also acknowledge that the latest genetic evidence supports an origin of proto-Indo-Europeans in the steppe.[119][note 18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-European_migrations#Caucasus_origins
Preservedmoose (talk) 17:40, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @Preservedmoose:, I am aware of this theory and the fact that IE speakers have had a presence in the Caucasus for a relatively long time. But as the academic consensus stands now it is agreed Northeast Caucasian languages have been present in the Caucasus since the migration of Proto-Northeast Caucasians from Mesopotamia some 12,000 years ago, according to Johanna Nichols that is, who is a linguist at the University of California, Berkeley. This is also in line with Genetic finds. The claim that was edited out by you, thus seems accurate and should in my Wikipedian opinion stay. Sextus Caedicius (talk) 19:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
- The reality is that the Kurgan hypothesis is, since the 1980s, basically the accepted one, and the main debates are about how the branches came to be. The Out-of-India and Armenian theories are not taken seriously except in two countries (you guessed it: India, Armenia). The Anatolian hypothesis has some following but it is clearly a minority position. Another reality is that there is a long-running trend to simply ignore the Caucasian (Kartvelian, Northwest Caucasian, Northeast Caucasian) languages for lack of evidence, and some (especially 20th century) studies simply partition up the prehistoric Caucasus into historic Armenian or Iranian or "Cimmerian" zones which many people don't criticize because it is irrelevant to analysis of Indo-European, i.e. no one cares. You can cherrypick all sorts of stuff because of this, but the reality will eventually set in: the relevant opinion of people who actually study the languages and peoples who speak them in the Caucasus will recognize they have had a very long time to diversify, hence why the Caucasus is one of hte most linguistically diverse due to in situ differentiation regions in the world, comparable only to places like New Guinea. That would not even be remotely possible if Armenians or Iranians or whoever predated the speakers of Georgian, Nakh, Andi, Khinalugh, etc. (Reich is a good RS but that should not be read to imply the absence of the indigenous languages in the Caucasus)--Calthinus (talk) 06:44, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
- Hello @Preservedmoose:, I am aware of this theory and the fact that IE speakers have had a presence in the Caucasus for a relatively long time. But as the academic consensus stands now it is agreed Northeast Caucasian languages have been present in the Caucasus since the migration of Proto-Northeast Caucasians from Mesopotamia some 12,000 years ago, according to Johanna Nichols that is, who is a linguist at the University of California, Berkeley. This is also in line with Genetic finds. The claim that was edited out by you, thus seems accurate and should in my Wikipedian opinion stay. Sextus Caedicius (talk) 19:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
DYK for Circassians in Jordan
editOn 17 July 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Circassians in Jordan, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Circassian settlers in Jordan founded modern Amman in 1878? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Circassians in Jordan. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Circassians in Jordan), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
— Wug·a·po·des 00:37, 15 July 2020 (UTC) 12:01, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Hi Sextus Caedicius, pls do not removed the histmerge tag. Pls note the subject is yet to be notable as per WP:MMABIO whereby a mixed martial arts fighter need to have at least 3 fights under tier one promotion (UFC/Invicta) to meet notability requirement. Thank you. Cassiopeia(talk) 03:33, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
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- I agree, let us discuss this on the talk page, I also started the consensus discussion at the talk page in question before this warning Yeravantsi. Sextus Caedicius (talk) 14:17, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!
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For your tireless contributions in the Caucasus region. It was quite lonely editing there, for a long time. Cheers! Calthinus (talk) 14:44, 10 August 2020 (UTC) |
- I appreciate it Calthinus! Sextus Caedicius (talk) 16:36, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Empty sections
editHi Sextus Caedicius, thanks for your improvements to the Chechens in Turkey article. I just wanted to let you know that I removed one small thing, where you had added a "History" section heading with no content, and just the "expand section" template. Generally that shouldn't be done, as it provides no information for the reader, and clutters the article, see MOS:BODY. Also, the template:expand section is not to be used in empty sections. Thanks for your understanding... --IamNotU (talk) 22:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Ingush people
editRegarding your comment on the 27th of june on the Ingush people page : Undid revision 964798094 by Reiner Gavriel (talk) previous version was good. I completely agree with you, but the person in specific "Reiner Gavriel" continues to vandalize the page. I have reported him and I think moderators forced him to add his previous account into his profile description, because he was pretending to be someone he was not. His previous account has been blocked for vandalizing. How could I make sure that he is stopped? Because it is rather annoying undoing his changes every time. Perhaps you can help as an experienced wikipedia editor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzjabito (talk • contribs) 23:22, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
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