Talk:2011 Lebanese protests

Anti-Sectarianism rallies

The main protests in lebanon are for the implementation of secular reform to the current political systems. In other words the Current political deadlock in lebanon is not directly the cause of the protests, hence the extensive explanation about he fall of the Hariri governments and all things related ( the STL, Hezbollah) are irrelevant. I suggests that things relating to PM Hariri and to the fall of his government be added to the STL page.(STL = Special tribunal for lebanon) . in the background section it is unnecessary to state the fall of the government for it is completely unrelated

(extra thoughts) The protests are not "the Laique pride", Witch was set for April . the laique pride is a movement by NGOs and activists To call for Secular reform that started Last in 2009 , A rallies took place last year and one now , so it is not related to the protests. The protests of the 27th of February and that of the 6th of march we partly influenced by the Egypt/Tunisia protests. I say partly influenced because other than the slogans they share nothing in common , and the idea was to surf the wave. Now those protest ( witch i have taken part in the second- and in the laique pride last year) are Mainly rallies In favor of more secular reforms in the countries. Hence the Laique pride and the Current protests are related by their goals and share activists and NGOs. Concerning the Political system in lebanon, Lebanon is a Confessionalist Parliamentary Democracy , See wikipedia article about Confessionalism. It is important too note and as a concerned Lebanese , that Due to the complexity of Lebanese politics , Not all protests, Rallies, or minor issue ( as reported in the media ) to be considered for this article. when it Comes to Reporting on lebanon , Most of the media get it wrong, as all are biased to some degree, especially local media, witch is either pro-14th march or pro-8th of march , and both use their outlets for propaganda. jadraad

I think that paragraph "2011 fall of government" is not related to the new protests that are held in Lebanon. it is related to another topic which is the cause of this fall. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjaat (talk • contribs) 15:11, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

the general strike

There's allegedly a general strike scheduled for tomorrow, with huge protests and all. The question is if it goes forth, is it part of the Arab spring or the Anti-austerity movement?Ericl (talk) 13:19, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Riots

Right now there are heppening riots in Lebanon, for the dismissal of the goverment (Cendes (talk) 13:46, 21 October 2012 (UTC))

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This article is very misleading in that it seems to suggest the 2011 protests were a significant, if minor, part of the Arab Spring, and its existence dramatically overstates the impact of the protests held back then. Parts of it should be subsumed in the main Arab Spring article, to highlight the Lebanese reaction to the Arab spring was extremely muted.

This article lumps in the same category a number of protests and activities that in reality had nothing to do with one another. The three marches against confessionalism were not different from the marches held before that year and after (think of the Laique pride of 2009 for instance), and had virtually no impact whatsoever on politics. The teachers' union movement was centered around the question of teachers' salaries exclusively, and did not include any demands for an end to confessionalism. The clashes resulting from the Syrian Conflict spillover also had nothing to do with the anti-confessionalism protests. The demonstration held by March 14 coalition was a yearly commemoration of the 2005 intifada which, also, had absolutely nothing to do with any of the events cited above.

The result is that someone might think 2011 was a very significant year for Lebanese mobilizations, when it really was not. Lebanon is a democratic country, albeit very imperfect, but its situation is comparable to Mexico's. Protests by students (which the secular marches were) are an extremely common occurrence since the end of the Syrian occupation in 2005. In general, protests are very common. A few hundred demonstrators protested in 2013 against the Fouad Boutros highway project, in 2014 the American University of Beirut entered a state of quasi-rebellion over the increase in tuition fees, and there are all the time many feminist or worker marches happening. For the Lebanese, 2011 was not a remarkable year by any stretch of the imagination in terms of protests.

I think it is important to remove this article because it has become almost a commonplace assumption in many accounts of Lebanese mobilizations to mention the 2011 protests as being significant, which they were not. They only got famous because they occurred at the same time as the Arab spring protests, and their existence suggests Lebanon responded to the Arab spring, which is not accurate. GeorgesNaccache (talk) 15:39, 22 January 2023 (UTC)