Talk:2021–22 Australian region cyclone season
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Observation links from the BoM (Bureau of Meteorology)
editFeel free to add more. Kindly check this links for wind and rain observations from respective observers. Also, don't forget to archive if you're using these links in a section of this article, as the informations there are always changing EVERY TEN (10) MINUTES.
- Weekly Rainfall Update for 7 days
- Lord Howe Island (Windspeeds) Daily Observations
- Lord Howe Island (Windgusts) Daily Observations
- Latest Weather Observations for Rowley Shoals (72 hours)
- Latest Weather Observations for Barrow Island (72 hours)
- Latest Weather Observations for Thevenard Island (72 hours)
- Latest Weather Observations for Onslow Airport (72 hours)
- Latest Weather Observations for Hamilton Island (72 hours)
- Latest Weather Observations for Cocos Island
- Latest Weather Observations for Christmas Island
BoM and NIWA forecasts for the 2021-22 Australian region cyclone season
editI'll leave it here for those who want to add it.
- Australian Tropical Cyclone Outlook for 2021 to 2022 Released on October 11 of 2021
- South Pacific Tropical Cyclone Outlook for 2021 to 2022 Released on October 12 of 2021 🌀HurricaneParrot🐦 09:31, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
- Southwest Pacific Tropical Cyclone Outlook - October 2021 Released on October 12 of 2021 Cyclonicationly (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
Location of advisories
edit- Tropical Cyclone Outlooks: BMKG
- BOM: Western // Northern // Eastern
- JTWC: Indian Ocean // South Pacific Ocean
- Tropical Cyclone Ocean Warnings:
- Tropical Cyclone Technical Bulletins:
- BOM: Western 1 // Western 2 // Northern 1 // Northern 2 // Eastern 1 // Eastern 2
- Tropical Cyclone Formation Alerts:
- BOM analysis, including unpublished BOM designations: BUFR // ECMWF validator
Season Summary
edit| ID | Date (ACST) | TC Name | Original Basin | Source |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2021-10-28 | -- | Indian Ocean | ||
| 2021-11-09 | -- | Indian Ocean | ||
| 02U | 2021-11-16 | Paddy | Indian Ocean | BOM DB |
| 03U | 2021-11-22 | -- | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| 04U | 2021-11-29 | -- | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| 05U | 2021-11-29 | Teratai | Indian Ocean | TWO & BOM DB |
| 06U | 2021-12-08 | -- | Arafura Sea | TWO |
| 07U | 2021-12-08 | Ruby | Coral Sea | BOM DB |
| 08U | 2021-12-21 | Seth | Arafura Sea | BOM DB |
| 2021-12-26 | -- | Indian Ocean | ||
| 10U | 2022-01-08 | Tiffany | Coral Sea | BOM DB |
| 11U | 2022-01-11 | -- | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| -- | 2022-01-22 | *Batsirai | Indian Ocean | |
| -- | 2022-01-23 | -- | Indian Ocean | |
| 14U | 2022-01-29 | -- | Western Australia | |
| 16U | 2022-01-31 | -- | Coral Sea | |
| 17U | 2022-02-04 | -- | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| 18U | 2022-02-05 | *Dovi | Coral Sea | |
| 19U | 2022-02-11 | *Fezile | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| 20U | 2022-02-16 | -- | Coral Sea | |
| 21U | 2022-02-20 | -- | Coral Sea | TWO |
| 22U | 2022-02-20 | Vernon | Indian Ocean | |
| 23U | 2022-02-21 | Anika | Indian Ocean | BOM DB |
| 24U | 2022-02-24 | *Eva | Coral Sea | TWO |
| 25U | 2022-02-25 | *08/16S | SWIO | BOM DB |
| 26U | 2022-02-27 | -- | Indian Ocean | |
| 27U | 2022-03-11 | Billy | Indian Ocean | |
| 28U | 2022-03-20 | Charlotte | Indian Ocean | BOM DB |
| 29U | 2022-03-31 | -- | Coral Sea | |
| 30U | 2022-03-31 | -- | Indian Ocean | BOM DB |
| 31U | 2022-04-03 | *Fili | Coral Sea | |
| 32U | 2022-04-09 | -- | Coral Sea | |
| 33U | 2022-04-17 | -- | GOC | TWO |
| 34U | 2022-04-23 | -- | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| 35U | ||||
| 36U | 2022-05-05 | *Karim | Indian Ocean | TWO |
| 37U | 2022-04-24 | *34U | Indian Ocean | BT Database |
Tropical Low 03U (2021)
editin this case we should discuss on talk page if the system form in AUS Basin or the system will enter in AUS Basin to prevent a edit war HurricaneEdgar 09:16, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- HurricaneEdgar, According to the latest tropical cyclone bulletin by the BoM, it says;
Here it says that the weak tropical low is located outside of the region and will enter by Wednesday or Thursday. There's also no source if it's located over the AOR of TCWC Jarkata. If you oppose this, please give a source. Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 09:28, 22 November 2021 (UTC)A weak tropical low (03U) could enter the far northwest of the region near 10S 93E from late Tuesday or Wednesday. This system is not expected to develop, and is likely to remain in the far northwest of the region until Friday.
- There are occasions where the BoM monitors a weak TL while TCWC Jakarta does not mention them. I am aware that TCWC Jakarta tends to mention storms should they have a higher chance to developing into a full-fledged TC. Also, you need to know that the AusR basin can be separated into 3 different regions (Western, Northern and Eastern), and BoM can mention how a TL is "outside of the region" but still within the basin itself. BoM can still mention a tropical system if they are outside the AusR basin (therefore SWio or SPac basins) but would be clear about it mentioning it with its coordinates. 03U in this case is pretty clear with evidence that it is still inside the AusR basin, but not in the Western Region as it does mention its coordinates (10N, 93E - which does state the border of TCWC Jakarta's region) and does simply state the quote "remain in the far northwest of the region". Typhoon2013 (talk) 13:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Typhoon2013, oh btw that TL on November 10 entered the basin, so that doesn't count Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 13:42, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Beraniladri19 Same thing with the first TL. Outside the Western region, but still inside the basin. "400km NNE of Cocos Island" still supports the statement that it is still inside the AusR basin, but outside the Western region. Typhoon2013 (talk) 23:47, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- Typhoon2013, oh btw that TL on November 10 entered the basin, so that doesn't count Beraniladri19 🌀🌀 13:42, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
- There are occasions where the BoM monitors a weak TL while TCWC Jakarta does not mention them. I am aware that TCWC Jakarta tends to mention storms should they have a higher chance to developing into a full-fledged TC. Also, you need to know that the AusR basin can be separated into 3 different regions (Western, Northern and Eastern), and BoM can mention how a TL is "outside of the region" but still within the basin itself. BoM can still mention a tropical system if they are outside the AusR basin (therefore SWio or SPac basins) but would be clear about it mentioning it with its coordinates. 03U in this case is pretty clear with evidence that it is still inside the AusR basin, but not in the Western Region as it does mention its coordinates (10N, 93E - which does state the border of TCWC Jakarta's region) and does simply state the quote "remain in the far northwest of the region". Typhoon2013 (talk) 13:04, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
Tropical Low 14U question
editHi. Why do we include systems in this article that were never tropical cyclones, nor in the case of 14U were never even over the ocean? Surely these do not merit inclusion in an article about tropical cyclones, regardless of what the BoM say about them? Buttons0603 (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Buttons0603: We include land depressions in the North Indian Ocean, same with these. 🐔dat (talk) 11:02, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
- @Buttons0603: We have to remember that the term tropical cyclone is a broad one, which includes hurricanes, typhoons, tropical storms, tropical depressions and tropical lows. We also have to remember that we do not pick the systems that are included as a part of the cyclone season but the BoM, Jakarta and the PNG NWS do. As a result, I see no reason why we should drop tropical lows even if they go nowhere near the ocean when we include tropical depressions in the Atlantic.Jason Rees (talk) 12:03, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
Supossed Tropical Low 24U
editI just looked on the MFR and JTWC websites that there is a tropical depression along with Cyclone Vernon in the BOM's area of responsibility.
There is no clarity on which page should add this content. Is it necessary to monitor this depression too? André L P Souza (talk) 07:42, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- It goes in both since it is in the Ausralian region and being monitored by the BoM in their outlooks as Tropical Low 25U. MFR is monitoring it as well since it is on the border between Aus & SWIO but as of 12z hasnt numbered it. FTR 24U is 09F.Jason Rees (talk) 12:46, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
26/27U?
editSo it's looking like BoM has reclassified 27U as 26U per their daily outlook bulletins? The only system (aside from Anika) was a tropical low (27U) that had developed on 27/2 near Christmas Island. The BoM today as of 1/3 had re-identified it as 26U, unless it is a new system? Thoughts? Should we add this as Tropical Low 26U/27U, or separate systems? Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:53, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
- what was the Australian cyclone number for the 2 tropical lows RSMC Nadi mention during the weekend of Feb26-27th besides "24U/09F" [Link]. Grifforzer (talk) 03:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- As a matter of thought, I have now dubbed the section as Tropical Low 26/27U. The BoM had reclassified the system as 26U by 1/3 and has continued to do so. Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- @Grifforzer: 09F was 24U while 21U never made it to the SPAC.Jason Rees (talk) 14:06, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
- As a matter of thought, I have now dubbed the section as Tropical Low 26/27U. The BoM had reclassified the system as 26U by 1/3 and has continued to do so. Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:42, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
Tiffany page
editTiffany caused a large amount of damage in Australia. I think it deserves a page so I may start a draft. Here is the draft if you want to improve it: Draft:Cyclone Tiffany — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hurricane Su (talk • contribs) 00:59, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
Cyclone Seth
editAccording to the Cyclone Seth report by the BOM, 4 deaths occurred with 1 missing, and had a peak intensity of 57 knots and 988.8 mbar. This should be reflected everywhere in the article. There could also be enough information to make an article on Seth, but it's not necessary. RandomInfinity17 (talk) 23:20, 13 October 2022 (UTC)