Talk:Adore (album)

Alternative rock?

Really?! I don't see it. Pumpkins were primarily a rock band but this album is hardly rock music. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.247.184 (talk) 21:33, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree partly, it has lots of rock in it, but at the same time I hear lots of electronic music. Why not add electronica as well? --Mathias-90 (talk) 12:27, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

US 12" Artwork

According to the information on the Adore page (*Artwork* section), it states that the LP release of Adore did not have show the album's title on the artwork.

I have found a website which clearly displays the title "Adore" on the red hibiscus image - http://www.blamo.org/sp/adorevinyl.shtml Can you please tell me which version is correct? Paranoid-andrew 07:06, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

I checked out eBay and all the different scans of the vinyl have "Adore" on the bottom left, just like the one you've shown... so, your version is correct until somebody can come up with a version that shows differently... Underwater 14:17, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

I have the vinyl LP and it definitely says "Adore" on the cover... the artwork displayed here is of unknown origin and should be replaced. -Werideatdusk33 04:40, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Promotional Singles

Does anyone know exactly which songs were released as promotional singles? I know that Crestfallen was and according to the Crestfallen page, Daphne Descends also was in 2000. According to Rate Your Music, "To Sheila" was released as one in December 1999 link. Is this correct? Was Daphne Descends also released, as Rate Your Music doesn't mention it. --Aljohnston 06:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

GA Passed

I have passed this article as a 'Good Article', well done to everyone involved in improving this article. The following points can still be improved:

1. Structure- ensure structure is logical and headings and sub-headings are used effectively
2. The production team aspect of this article could be reduced as list is long.

These are only minor points. GDon4t0 21:52, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Vinyl cover

Should the vinyl cover image appear twice in the article (in the infobox and in the Artwork section)? Seems a little odd. Gmarsden 01:21, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

I was just thinking about this. I think I'll move the single cover for "Crestfallen" into that section. --Brandt Luke Zorn 01:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

This album is connected

All song titles serve as redirects to this album, have their own pages, or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages. Godlord2 02:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

48 Chords

I believe "48 chords" was the working title for "Blank Page". Anyone know for sure? Edgessouth 06:56, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

A quick search on Google shows no connection, and Billy hasn't mentioned anything of the sort when he mentioned the song in his blog. I think it's safe to say that they're two separate songs. --Brandt Luke Zorn 18:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Even if you think you have reasonable grounds, it probably constitutes original research. Girolamo Savonarola 16:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Minor addition to the tour section

I added a minor detail regarding the charity tour. Minneapolis was the only city which did not involve a charity, since it was the only city which allowed the band to play a free concert. Twineball 14:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

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Demos/outtakes

they recorded a lot of demos for the album for songs that didn't make it.do you think its worth mentioning? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.44.87.97 (talk) 18:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Absolutely!

Contradiction

It says Matt Cameron did drums for Pug and then in the credits it list's another drummer... --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 02:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Electronic

Stop deleting that in the genre section, this album obviously has songs that aren't even close to alternative rock on it (Crestfallen, Appels + Oranjes, Daphne Descends, Annie-Dog, Blank Page) so it's inaccurate to label it as only such. Maybe electronic doesn't cover all of this, but no only labeling it alternative rock only is misinformation. --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 03:53, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

If there's a disagreement about the genre, why not just remove the parameter from the infobox? That's worked for me recently. Genres should be covered in the article body anyway. Friginator (talk) 04:21, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Just please don't use the pointlessly ill-defined term "electronica" to describe it. There's much, much better genre descriptors for the sound. -- Guest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.109.207.125 (talk) 17:47, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

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FA concerns

Hey all,

This article was promoted to FA back in 2007 and hasn't been reviewed since. As such, I thought I would do a deep dive on issues that are present that could cause its demotion. I have already taken the liberty of archiving refs using the bot, updated tables to have captions, updated the personnel section to match MOS:ALBUM#Personnel, and removing genre refs out of the infobox and into the main body.

• The lead is currently filled with references, only one of which is actually used again in the body, making it seem like the lead uses brand new ideas/sentences rather than summarizing what's in the main body

• One of these states: "The primary source on the recording climate is a three-part blog written by Billy Corgan in 2005, all three of which are referenced extensively in the body of this article." This doesn't seem like a proper reference and FAs should certainly not say "this article".

• Certain references such as ref 11, 16, and 17 don't use the cite web template
• Ref 19 uses Rollingstone.com instead of Rolling Stone
• The entire personnel section is unsourced, and on top of that, uses both track titles and track numbers
• While the majority of the article is still well-written, the recording section appears as a bunch of separate paragraphs, some of which are only three sentences. Before I added the infobox genres to the music section, the only use of these stated genres was in the infobox itself (The body primarily mentions electronica but not the infobox genres)

• Going along with this, to me the article isn't as detailed as it could be for an FA. For one, it states that Jimmy Chamberlain departed but doesn't state why (I believe because of drug use). Point being, it doesn't seem to qualify criteria 1b.

• A paragraph about the cover artwork is included in recording, which seems out of place
• Chart tables should now not include the word "chart" (only the year-end table has this issue but the weekly table is good, unlike Mellon Collie)
• The reception section gives sales numbers as of 2005 but the ref cited is dated 2002
• The article was promoted 7 years before its 2014 massive reissue, but it doesn't go into that much detail on why so many tracks were included; I for one would like to know why a mono mix of this album exists, considering it was made in 1998.
• Ref 29 is a YouTube link

These are the things I've noticed. To me, this article needs an overhaul in order to keep the star. I've already begun doing some work but I still have other projects I'm working on. – zmbro _(talk) 22:12, 3 January 2021 (UTC)