Talk:Alpine skiing

Telemark

Is "Telemark" classified as Alpine?

It is definitely downhill, but "Telemark" is certainly not in the alps

Egil 00:43 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

For Telemark style you need to have your heel free (nordic style binding i think it's called). Alpine type bindings have heel secured to the skiis I think. The Merciful 12:45, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

Age window

Something that would be interesting for the article to say: what's the age window for the sport? At what age does an athlete hit his/her prime? Until what age, on average, can an athlete remain competitive? At what age people usually start skiing and when is it "too late" for someone to start training and reach a competitive level at some point? Those kinds of things. Regards, Redux 03:40, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

A second editor inserted their answers directly into the previous editor's questions. The answers are now listed below. Ken Gallager (talk) 16:14, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

• (usually 7-30)
• (18-30)
• (35)
• (about 3-7)
• (about 6) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostbiteski (talk • contribs) 23:15, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Needs cleanup

This article needs a complet cleanup. It needs an history section and a section about the professional aspect of the sport (Olympic, World cup etc...). Unfortunately I cannot deal with that myself because I'm not aware of the sport enough :( May the "project-ski" do something about that ? --Mrpouetpouet 00:51, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

trail ratings confusion

I couldn't help noticing what appears to be a contradiction regarding trail ratings in various parts of the world. The last sentence of the introduction (above the table of contents) says "North American green circles, blue squares, black diamonds, and double blacks correspond to European green, blue, red, and black trails, respectively." But in the section entitled "Ski trails ratings," under "Europe," it is implied that a North American "green" actually corresponds to a European "blue," and presumably so on up the difficulty scale (NA "blue" = Euro "red"? etc.).

Does anyone know which is correct? I would be happy to edit the article to clarify this, but I do not know what it actually "should" say...

Nikip (talk) 02:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC) nikip

There is also a difference between Norway and the alps. The alps typically do not have green slopes, but many blue slopes in the alps would have been rated green in Morway. -Kasper — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.196.82.42 (talk) 07:28, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

The trail rating section for North America is missing the Extreme or EX in double black diamonds rating which is becoming a lot more common. MarkMascolino (talk) 02:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Hey, i just noticed that the trail rating for north america at least are taken from this website:http://askville.amazon.com/ski-skope-difficulty-ratings-Europe/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=198051 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.155.118.144 (talk) 12:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks okay. The web page cited gives Wikipedia as the source. Since Wikipedia is licensed as GNU Free Documentation License, anyone is free to copy us. —EncMstr (talk) 18:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Types of Snow

"Crud" is not usually used to refer to bare spots, as the article states, but rather to chopped up, uneven snow that is usually found after a full day or more of skiing on either fresh snow, or on a groomed trail. "Crud" is a generic term that can refer to a number of different conditions; a more specific term often used is "cookies", which are chunks of groomed snow that have broken loose from the base and are loose on the surface. Redascent (talk) 19:53, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

"Mashed Potatatoes" is very mushy, warm, slow snow. It usually shows up in spring on warm days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frostbiteski (talk • contribs) 23:17, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

"Australia"

Are we sure we don't mean Austria? One is a country with undrinkable wine and men in strange shorts, the other is a country with very drinkablew ine, although undrinkable beer and men in normal shorts — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.127.253 (talk) 03:47, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

The History section...

...does not talk about the history of Alpine skiing. Just thought I'd put that out there... Orphan Wiki 21:00, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

What would you say about changing the name of that section to "Technique"? HiLo48 (talk) 05:02, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, that would certainly fit the content much better. Orphan Wiki 07:14, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Amended. Orphan Wiki 09:27, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Small mess in the infobox

A minor edit to the infobo drew my attention to what seems to be a missing picture, and an odd heading, "Alpine ski", rather than "Alpine skiing", the name of the article. Being neither an expert on nor a fan of infoboxes, can I ask someone else to try to sort it out please? HiLo48 (talk) 23:23, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Winch-cat???

The term "winch-cats" linked to the snowcat article, however "winch-cat" is not mentioned in that article. I therefore changed "winch-cats" to "snowcats". If this is wrong someone who knows what the link is supposed to refer to should correct it. 109.155.171.80 (talk) 19:29, 23 December 2011 (UTC)

Competition vs alpine skiing in general

"Highest governing body" applies only to competitive skiing, no such for recreational skiing. So it should be clear if the scope is competitive skiing. See similar issue regarding Cross-country skiing. --Erik den yngre (talk) 20:31, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Changed the scope of the article to be general. --Cornellier (talk) 00:08, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Deleted material

This paragraph was just deleted: "However, ski runs are generally of finite width and a skier using this technique to slow down will eventually move sideways to the edge of the run. At this point the skier must turn to continue the descent in another direction. In theory, a run down the hill would consist of straight sections across the hill, which must be sharp turns to the complementary angle, as if the skier is being reflected from the edges of the run."

I agree that this may seem strange and perhaps hypothetical, but is in fact a precise describition of the "flipping skis" turning tehcnique used in some circumstances. --— Erik Jr. 22:32, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

number of skiers

There reads: As of 1994, there were estimated to be 55 million people worldwide, who engaged in Alpine skiing. Approximately 30 million of these were in Europe, 15 million in the US, and 14 million in Japan.
So, there were 55 million skiers, of which 59 million were in Europe, US or Japan. The sum count is 4 million too much, and some areas are even missing from the list. 91.154.189.74 (talk) 14:53, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

After looking at the source reference, it appears the text in the article needs to be corrected. According to the ref, approximately 55 million of all skiers prefer Alpine skiing; but the numbers by country in the ref are actually for the combined populations of Alpine plus cross-country skiers (and even within the ref, the numbers by country are from another source that their totals - and are acknowledged in the ref to be imperfect estimates by country). --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

 Implemented Thanks for calling our attention to this. I hope that I have fixed the problem. HopsonRoad (talk) 00:34, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

Discussion of ski technique

@Frostbiteski: Hi Frostbiteski, I note that you are trying to make a good-faith contribution to this article and attempting to provide citations for it. Let's discuss what it is that you're trying to convey here, and perhaps we can identify some text that accomplishes what you are hoping to say. Likewise, if you have some Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources that support what you are trying to convey, I'd be happy to help implement references in a manner acceptable to the Wikipedia:Manual of style.

Perhaps the first step would be to provide a link to an article in a skiing magazine that describes what your are trying to convey. You can do this with square brackets as follows: [https://url_from_article_that_describes_the_issue_of_interest (space) name of magazine quoted].

Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 00:18, 16 May 2018 (UTC)

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