Talk:Bashar al-Assad
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is he a politician???
editWhy is this dictator even called "politician"? Was he elected? Was the election free and fair? Dear wikipedia, why don't you refer hitler, stalin or mao as a "politician"? I mean the "d-word" is so rude... 92.249.214.251 (talk) 13:03, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
- his dad was made leader by a military coup and since bashar came to power if you talked ONE WORD bad about him, your children will get poisoned and you will never see their face again, and you would be killed or forced in the army. 2001:1970:55E8:7F00:60F6:D4AD:9672:10DE (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
- These are the opening sentence of the Wikipedia articles on Hitler, Stalin and Mao:
- "Adolf Hitler (German: [ˈaːdɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ] ; 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician..."
- Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin (born Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili; 18 December [O.S. 6 December] 1878 – 5 March 1953) was a Soviet politician..."
- Mao Zedong (26 December 1893 – 9 September 1976) was a Chinese politician..."
- What's your point? DeCausa (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
Kidnapping of 4Star General Kenneth McKenzie in Aleppo Syria Help release him today!!
editPlease contact the local police to get General Kenneth McKenzie freed from the terrible kidnapping in Aleppo Syria held somewhere in a big forest. This is a family member in the USA in Florida and please help get him released. They are treating him very badly!! 2603:9000:B305:D778:C081:8872:BF61:6AC2 (talk) 20:50, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Surname?
editWhat to call this man - I had assumed that his surname would be "al-Assad", but many others seem to disagree with me.
- al-Assad is used here (but mostly in the citations) - -
"Al-Assad: Enemies of Syria 'will go to hell'". CNN.
...President al-Assad gave...
Al-Assad family
"Throughout the speech, al-Assad remained faithful..."
...loyal to the al-Assad family.
- Assad is frequently used throughout this article - - -
The Assad regime...
...after Assad assumed power...
...elite of the Assad family...
...the Assad government...
- President Assad has a few entries (but no President al-Assad) - - -
President Assad also...
...President Assad step aside...
President Assad also told...
- A few places use the whole name, Bashar al-Assad - - -
..Bashar al-Assad's core support...
Bashar al-Assad declared...
Bashar al-Assad held a meeting...
- Then there is the naked Bashar contingent - - -
Bashar graduated...
Bashar later stated...
Bashar had few...
...which was Bashar's age...
So, what should this guy be called -
- Bashar al-Assad;
- al-Assad;
- President al-Assad;
- President Assad;
- but surely not Bashar?
Is there a consensus?
Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 20:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
His father’s name is Hafez.
editBashar’s father’s name is “Hafez” and not “Hafiz” as is printed on this site 2A02:AA7:4103:8767:50EE:4E1:FC17:3FFB (talk) 10:57, 15 July 2024 (UTC)
Responsible for 90% of deaths
editthis is conjecture and unverifiable. A UK based source when the UK and its allies supporters the anti assad movement. Can't be relied upon and is an unnecessary addition of information..I'm sure the number of deaths alone is sufficient rather than attributing blame(which is unverifiable) 2A04:4A43:4C3F:D0F7:0:0:29D8:CD07 (talk) 04:17, 5 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, I agree, but unfortunately sources considered reliable by Wikipedia parrot the SNHR's figures so we have no point but to operate within those constraints.
- Their methodology is flawed:
- https://snhr.org/public_html/wp-content/pdf/english/SNHR_Methodology_en.pdf
Skornezy (talk) 02:48, 22 October 2024 (UTC)Cases of uncertainty in deciding whether an individual is classified as a civilian or a combatant: In case of the absence of conclusive evidence of the victim’s status and of resulting uncertainty over his/her classification as a civilian or a combatant, we register him/her as a civilian.
The word "dictator" in the lead
editI noticed that the word "dictator" to characterize him is often placed in the introduction and then removed. What consensus could we have? Should we put it or is it not necessary? FaChol (talk) 23:03, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- I have no doubt that he is a dictator, this is not the question I am asking. I am asking if a consensus can be reached on whether or not to write that in the introduction. For example, Putin is characterized as a "Russian politician and former intelligence officer". Should the word "dictator" also be included on his article? FaChol (talk) 23:12, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
Murderer category
editShould we keep the Category of Mass murderers for him? 2600:100C:A218:9A7B:BC5E:E0AD:C8F9:553 (talk) 15:31, 1 December 2024 (UTC)