Talk:Bay duiker

GA Review

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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 11:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Oy, I'll take this one! FunkMonk (talk) 11:40, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

I had kept this one especially for the GA Cup, and I knew my friend would take this. Thanks! Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 11:46, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Hehe, I'll try to get it done tonight! Sadly, I don't have anything in good enough shape to nominate myself... FunkMonk (talk) 11:48, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

You would be as frightened as me if you see my Submissions. Seems you began a bit too fast... it was not UTC 00:00 when you started your reviews, I am afraid. I guess they should accept them. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 11:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Haha, damn, am I an hour ahead? What does the revision history of metal corset say? FunkMonk (talk) 11:57, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Seems so. I am gonna talk on this at GA Cup talkpage. How on earth could you be so horrid - I though only I was the worst blitzkrieg reviewer! But here I am with 9 reviews and you with 13! Remember our bet? ;D But I seriously wish your efforts do not go in vain. So I was right. :P Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 12:14, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Hahaha, thanks! I'm so bad with numbers... I left Baleen whale for you, hehe... FunkMonk (talk) 12:32, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Monsieur/Madame is indeed most generous..:P Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 12:36, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Hehe, there's a reason why my username is FunkMonk, not FunkNun! Anyhow, I'll start the real review comments after I'm home from work. FunkMonk (talk) 12:42, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

You never know with usernames! Alright, we have been talking all unrelated stuff here, let's get down to work. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 13:01, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Perhaps note location in the infobox image? I see it has coordinates.

Looks like Gabon or Cameroon, not sure. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Date for the drawing?

Added this and more. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Seems the scientific name needs italics in some source titles?

You mean the dictionary ones? Sorry, but seems the URL will go awry if I add the single quotes for italics. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• "a 2003 paper identified two subspecies of the bay duiker" Given the date of the subspecies authority, it would seem it had been recognised long ago, then synonymised, only to be resurrected again?

Even I was puzzled by this, but pretty less info is available for this species. This is all I could gather.

Probably the paper formally adopted these as subspecies only in 2003 though they were considered as subspecies since all those centuries ago. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "The generic name has possibly originated from" Seems a slightly odd way to put it ("originated").

Reworded, how is it? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• In the above sentence, why is it "possibly"?

Looks like guesswork; it is not a common Dictionary word, so perhaps they just combined two words and gave it as a "possible" origin. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• I think I'd move the subspecies info below the etymology and common name stuff.

How is it now? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• Any synonyms?

Would have added if I had known. Hardly any info for most duiker species. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• No evolution info? About the genus in general? Cladogram?

Luckily found much. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• "The bay duiker has a moderate size" Is moderately sized? Also, compared to what?

Took your suggestion. Compared to, of course, other antelopes. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• "but females are often larger than males." I'd say though instead of but here.

Fixed. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 17:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

• I found this illustration, which might be useful[1]. Though it is a bit similar to the other one, there are so few images here that it might be ok.

I am not very much into Commons. Could you please upload this? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Added. FunkMonk (talk) 23:03, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 03:25, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

• "Hence, sexual dimorphism is not generally observed in this species" The description section mentions many slight differences, so perhaps that sentence could be reworded to be less "sure"?

Reworded. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "The head has a diminutive crest, and is dark brown." What is meant by crest?

Explained. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• Elaeis guineensis0.jpg could need a description template on Commons. The infobox image could also need a Commons description. These issues are mainly for FAC, though...

As I said, I hardly visit Commons. Could you do this? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Not that important now anyway. It should be pretty easy to do when/if the time comes... Just copy the template form another image. FunkMonk (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

• "The bay duiker is a nocturnal animal" Nocturnal is mentioned earlier, where it should be linked.

Done. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "less is known of its behavioural patterns." Less compared to what? Perhaps little is better.

Oops! Done. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "on its sense of smell for searching food" When searching for food?

Reworded. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "A 1989 study found that the soft seeds of plants such as Drypetes gossweileri, Staudtia gabonensis, Dacryoides buettneri, Ongokea gore, Santiria trimera, Annonidium mannii and Pentaclethra macrophylla." Seems something is missing from the sentence. They found that what?

Fixed. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "There have been reports of the bay duiker preying on birds" Sounds interesting, can it be elaborated? Something similar to this?[2]

Will see... Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "and no peaks are known.[9] A study in Gabon recorded birth peaks before or during maximum abundance of fruits." Contradiction?

Reworded. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "following which generally a single offspring is born." following which a single offspring is generally born?

Not much different from the present form, is it? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "This duiker formerly occurred in the forested areas of Guinea. Nowadays, the bay duiker can be found in moist forested islands and riparian forests in the savannas of Guinea" Latter sentence seems to contradict the former?

Rewritten. The difference lies in the types of forests, which I have clarified now. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "The bay duiker is, however, still a common duiker species" Seems redundant. Why not just common species?

I want to emphasize that it is one of the few duikers who are still around, unlike the most others who are fast fading away. Can I say "The bay duiker, unlike the other duiker species, still found in significant numbers." ? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, your suggestion seems much more clear, I had no idea that was what you meant before. FunkMonk (talk) 22:56, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Done. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 03:25, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

• "Protected areas where bay duikers survive" Survive seems a bit strong when it isn't endangered?

How does "occur" sound? Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

• "The bay duiker (Cephalophus dorsalis), also known as the black-striped duiker and the black-backed duiker" Not sure if it makes a difference, but it seems the scientific name is usually mentioned after all the common names have been listed?

The way it is is the one I use. No strong reason to alter it. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Coming to these in a day or two. A bit busy with my reviews at the moment... Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 13:04, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

No problem. Am struggling a bit as well... FunkMonk (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

@FunkMonk: Hey, found time for this a last! I believe I have responded to all of it. Sainsf <^>_{Talk all words} 16:37, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

With this done, I think it's ready to pass! FunkMonk (talk) 08:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)