Talk:Cavanal Hill

By whose definition?

There are many hills over 2000 feet and many mountains below it, so this claim is absurd. Ubermonkey 04:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I live in poteau... the hill is in my backyard... it's a bit of a misconception... there IS an old british standard saying that all peaks 2000 feet above the surrounding terrain were mountains and all others were hills... in actuality, cavanal mountain is 1999 feet above the surrounding terrain (which is at 497 feet) it's basically something to gain notoriety for our small town... as far as i know, there no other hills being touted as the 'world's highest' on another note it's a quite beautiful hill... i believe i'll put a picture of it on the article... it seems to be lacking one... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.39.150.84 (talk) 05:10, March 25, 2006 (UTC)

The references claiming an elevation of 1,999 feet for Cavanal Hill aren't accurate, as the person commenting above mentioned. According to a listing of named Oklahoma peaks on http://americasroof.com/highest/ok.shtml, the actual elevation above sea level for Cavanal Hill is 2,385 feet. If you look at the topo map of Cavanal that is linked on the Wikipedia entry, you can even see the 700-meter relief line below the summit of Cavanal. The "World's Highest Hill" claim comes from Cavanal's 1,999 feet "prominence" (or measurement from base to summit). In some hill/mountain classifications, a prominence of 2,000 feet is the standard for a "mountain". Over time, the measurements have been confused, leading to the many claims of a 1,999 ft. elevation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.204.59.23 (talk) 21:34, July 28, 2006 (UTC)

2385 - 497 = 1888. 2385 - 1999 = 386. For Cavanal Mountain to be a hill, the base would have to be exactly 386 feet above sea level. From the research I've done, the closest area that I could find that was anywhere near that close to sea level is the Arkansas River Valley north of Panama and Spiro, which is around 385-390 feet in spots, but this is 15 miles from the top of Cavanal Mountain. The 1999 number has to be a marketing ploy, but where did they measure from? Are there any spots in LeFlore County that are under 386 feet above sea level? I'm from Mena, and I've spent lots of time in and around Poteau, and I can't think of any areas that would be that low. The lowest point in the immediate Poteau vicinity seems to be along the Poteau River around the area where it splits near the airport and the terrain gets very rugged just to the south of Heavener.

And yes, the mountain is very beautiful. The views from the top are stunning. Bugo 07:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Article renaming proposal

Because the Geographic Names Information System of the U.S. Geologic Survey officially names Cavanal Hill Cavanal Mountain and lists its elevation at 2,385 feet (727 meters) ("Cavanal Mountain". Geographic Names Information System. United States Geological Survey, United States Department of the Interior. Retrieved 2009-09-14.), and the fact that Cavanal "Hill" is in the Ouachita Mountains, I propose that the article be renamed Cavanal Mountain and the mountain be called for what it is in the article, a mountain. However, since the Poteau Chamber of Commerce (http://poteauchamber.com/) proclaims Cavanal Mountain the "World's Highest Hill" and lists the elevation at 1,999 feet on its website, mention of this fact can remain in the article. I've added the link to "Category: Mountains of Oklahoma" in the article since Cavanal "Hill" is in fact a mountain.

The argument that Cavanal "Hill" is a hill rather than a mountain based on a topographical prominence of 1,999 feet does not hold up because many mountain peaks have prominences of less than that due to their location near higher peaks. A number of mountains also have lower reliefs than Cavanal "Hill". S Martin (talk) 08:33, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Source of name

http://www.travelok.com/listings/view.profile/id.1157 specifically states that the name of Cavanal Hill is derived from the French word for "cave." Therefore I have reverted the previous edit. If there is a better explanation for the name, a source should be provided. Bruin2 (talk) 05:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

It's a mountain

From what I've heard, the minimum height is 1,000 feet above the surrounding ground, not 2,000 69.29.99.218 (talk) 03:08, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Not particularly helpful. It needs to be published somewhere, not just hearsay. --Ken Gallager (talk) 19:12, 6 August 2020 (UTC)