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Did you know nomination
edit- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 20:43, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- ... that Connecting Humanity has provided internet access to at least 200,000 people living in the Gaza Strip (around 10% of the population) through donated eSIMs? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/dec/17/esim-cards-internet-gaza-palestinians
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kentucky Educational Television
- Comment: Really open to suggestions for improving hook, I'm not sure if it's reasonable to expect people to know what an esim is. Also it doesn't talk about why they don't have access or that the founder discovered this way to connect people, something that apparently hadn't been done before. Also I'll try and find a more recent statistic for the number of people connected.
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.
Post-promotion hook changes will be logged on the talk page; consider watching the nomination until the hook appears on the Main Page.John Cummings (talk) 23:48, 24 March 2024 (UTC).
| Length | Newness | Cited hook | Interest | Sources | Neutrality | Plagiarism/paraphrase |
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1669 prose characters; nominated within less than a week of creation; interesting hook; Guardian is RS; no plaigarism. I have added a WP link to the eSIMs so that anyone unfamiliar could check what that is; but I think most readers would be familiar, so should be no problem. Also added WP link to the Gaza Strip. This is GTG. 
Makeandtoss (talk) 13:04, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
@John Cummings and Makeandtoss: The QPQ still seems outstanding.—Bagumba (talk) 05:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Following discussions at Template:Did you know nominations/Mirna El Helbawi and WT:DYK, I have converted the aforementioned DYKnom into a multi-hook including this nomination. If and when that is passed, this nomination can be procedurally rejected. CMD (talk) 06:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
@Chipmunkdavis: Will this multi-hook be featured for a longer time? If not, I would prefer the two remain separate hooks. Makeandtoss (talk) 09:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Bagumba I did two DYK reviews yesterday which I approved, I'm sorry if I didn't do something I was supposed to do to tell you I've done them, I can't find any instructions anywhere about how to show QPQ. Template:Did you know nominations/Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki and Template:Did you know nominations/Kentucky Educational Television. Please ping me if I missunderstood or need to do anything else. I would also like to keep these as two separate hooks. John Cummings (talk) 10:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
- I formally filled in the QPQ above to be Kentucky Educational Television. Thanks.—Bagumba (talk) 15:34, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Bagumba I did two DYK reviews yesterday which I approved, I'm sorry if I didn't do something I was supposed to do to tell you I've done them, I can't find any instructions anywhere about how to show QPQ. Template:Did you know nominations/Mohammad Saifullah Ozaki and Template:Did you know nominations/Kentucky Educational Television. Please ping me if I missunderstood or need to do anything else. I would also like to keep these as two separate hooks. John Cummings (talk) 10:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Template:Did you know nominations/Mirna El Helbawi was promoted with a single bolded link. This nomination needs be changed to something more unique than that one. Regards.—Bagumba (talk) 15:37, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
John Cummings, if you cannot suggest a unique hook for this nomination, it will be rejected. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 17:29, 11 April 2024 (UTC)- I would propose this hook: ALT1: ... that Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary was the first person in the Gaza Strip to have been connected with donated eSIMs through the Connecting Humanity initiative? Makeandtoss (talk) 17:50, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Hi AirshipJungleman29 and Makeandtoss thank you for the reminder and the suggestion. I suggest.... that Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary was the first person in the Gaza Strip to have been connected with donated eSIMs through the Connecting Humanity initiative, and since then at least 200,000 people living there (around 10% of the population) have been connected in the same way? I know this is quite long but I think its really important to quantify the scale of what they have done. Thanks again John Cummings (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- That hook is a) far too long (260 characters, whereas the absolute maximum is 200), b) very similar to the Mirna El Helbawi hook, and c) "quantifying the scale of what they have done" is completely irrelevant to the point of DYK John Cummings. Review needed for ALT1. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:41, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then ALT3:
... that Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary was the first person in the Gaza Strip to have been connected with donated eSIMs through the Connecting Humanity initiative out of 200,000?Makeandtoss (talk) 19:04, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
- Makeandtoss and AirshipJungleman29 thanks very much again, I'd like to propose ALT4 which hopefully is clearer to non technical people and makes it obvious they were cut off and this project is reconnecting them:
ALT4: ... that Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary was the first of over 200,000 people in the Gaza Strip to be reconnected to the internet with an eSIMs donated through the Connecting Humanity initiative?John Cummings (talk) 00:21, 12 April 2024 (UTC)- Looks good.Makeandtoss (talk) 07:45, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is almost the same hook as the one that ran for Template:Did you know nominations/Mirna El Helbawi, just switching out the named person before continuing with the same info. CMD (talk) 12:16, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Yup. I have struck ALT3 and ALT4, so the choice is ALT1 (which needs a full review) or rejection. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:25, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Alt1 is unique and should be fine. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Article says "The first people she was able to connect through eSIMs were Egyptian journalist Ahmed El-Madhoun and Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary." This is not the same as the hook. And what makes ref #8 reliable, given the tag on it?--Launchballer 17:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Editing accordingly to ALT2: ... that Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary was among the first two people in the Gaza Strip to have been connected with donated eSIMs through the Connecting Humanity initiative? As for reference 8 it isn't used as source for unique information since the same sentence is sourced to three other references; the instagram post is just added as extra reference, so this shouldn't be an issue. Makeandtoss (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then you shouldn't have a problem with taking it out. (If I had my way, hooks would either need be cited to a single source or separated with a note saying exactly which bit comes from where.) ALT2 could do with a copyedit; should probably say what they're connected to, and should probably link eSIM.--Launchballer 22:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: Removed. Here is ALT3: ... that Hind Khoudary, a Palestinian journalist, was among the first two people in the Gaza Strip to receive donated eSIMs through the Connecting Humanity initiative? Makeandtoss (talk) 07:58, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
- Then you shouldn't have a problem with taking it out. (If I had my way, hooks would either need be cited to a single source or separated with a note saying exactly which bit comes from where.) ALT2 could do with a copyedit; should probably say what they're connected to, and should probably link eSIM.--Launchballer 22:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Editing accordingly to ALT2: ... that Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary was among the first two people in the Gaza Strip to have been connected with donated eSIMs through the Connecting Humanity initiative? As for reference 8 it isn't used as source for unique information since the same sentence is sourced to three other references; the instagram post is just added as extra reference, so this shouldn't be an issue. Makeandtoss (talk) 20:07, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Article says "The first people she was able to connect through eSIMs were Egyptian journalist Ahmed El-Madhoun and Palestinian journalist Hind Khoudary." This is not the same as the hook. And what makes ref #8 reliable, given the tag on it?--Launchballer 17:05, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Alt1 is unique and should be fine. Makeandtoss (talk) 13:09, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
- Makeandtoss and AirshipJungleman29 thanks very much again, I'd like to propose ALT4 which hopefully is clearer to non technical people and makes it obvious they were cut off and this project is reconnecting them:
ALT3 is short enough, cited, and interesting. I've reworded one section for close paraphrasing, but otherwise this is ready to roll.--Launchballer 08:21, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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I want add the other co-founders: Speak Up, Doaa Gawish and Mohamed Bebars Asftw57 (talk) 21:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 21:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
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Change "The collective uses eSIMs from the providers Nomad, Holafly, Airalo and Simly which are activated by unique, easily transmissible one-time, screenshot QR Codes" to ""The collective currently uses eSIMs from the providers Nomad, Truely, Airalo and Simly which are activated by unique, easily transmissible one-time, screenshot QR Codes" Source: Mirna El Helbawi and Connecting Humanity's Instagram. Pipagaopoetry (talk) 16:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Done Kline • talk • contribs 03:27, 18 October 2024 (UTC)
should this be called an activist collection?
edittheir website uses .org (we can keep the .com link it redirects) but they arent a registered NGO so they are clearly some form of orgonisation by their own measure but havent registered as a non profit anywhere, is the current wording ok? Dfdedfcf (talk) 18:44, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
are sources 6,17 and 7 actually up to standard
editsource 6 is a newspaper article based on the founders tweets, that doesnt even mention the 200,000 figure, and sources 17 & 7 just says that the founder claims that they've given 200,000 people internet access, but neither say where that quote is from, is that good enough? Dfdedfcf (talk) 18:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)