Talk:Crimson

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I removed the sanskrit etymology as it made no sense. It said that the turkish word meaning red would stem from the sanskrit root meaning 'produced by worm'. While earlier there is discussion about the worm producing the dye, it is more likely that the particular worm's name comes from the word 'red' and not vice versa. Besides, turkish and sanskrit are in different language families. Also the persian word for red is a likely source for the word. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.96.151.128 (talk) 15:56, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Looks scarlet to me Wetman 09:52, 29 Apr 2004 (UTC)

How authoritative is the color box here? I agree that this doesn't look anything like what I would expect crimson to look like. Dystopos 23:13, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Here's what the University of Alabama specifies as crimson for its "visual identity" [1] : "Whenever a red or crimson is used, it must be PMS 201 or one of the following equivalents: RGB: r = 177, g = 0, b = 33, CMYK: C = 0, M = 100, Y = 63, K = 29" - which is a much darker value than the one indicated in this article. Dystopos 23:28, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Harvard University also uses a dark, less saturated crimson: "Generally, for print pieces we use the Pantone Matching System (PMS). To specify the color, tell the printer or designer to use PMS 201, alternatively PMS 187. On the Web, both #990000 and #800000 (hexadecimal) are in wide use throughout KSG and university sites." [2] Dystopos 23:33, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps it should be noted also that crimson is a darker shade of red. I'm not sure what the writer meant by strong. - Phil

The University of Utah lists crimson as one of its colors, but specifies that the web color corresponding to it is cc0000. --^hello,gadren 19:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Indiana University also has crimson as a school color (along with Cream). TheRammer (talk) 03:00, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

confusion

The article slightly muddies the issue as to when crimson denotes the Kermes-based colours and when cochineal-based colours. Under practical uses it refers to "this dye", but I've lost track of which dye is being referred to: crimson, crimson lake, cochineal, carmine, carmine lake?? I think some clarification is needed, and a separation between the original meanings of crimson as a particular range of dyestuffs produced from Kermes and later meanings of crimson as a more general colour concept. Mooncow 23:07, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

~~ OK, having looked into this somewhat myself, I think I have it clear. I've restructured the article a bit to make it clearer (I hope). Mooncow 20:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

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Crimson in human culture

Why, oh why? This section is just irrelevant! Delete, yes?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.111.169.34 (talk) 11:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

At what point is a color considered to be on the "Purple" side of Red?

The article text says that Crimson is like Red with a little bit of Blue mixed in, making it slightly Purple. Well, that's a very sRGB point of view. I compared the red:blue ratio of the RGB specified in the article to my own calculation of the red:blue ratio that best describes the chromaticity of the red end of spectral locus. The Crimson as defined in the article is actually slightly Oranger than that. I would try to avoid treating sRGB's component "red" as a definitive hue of Red, dividing Orange Reds from Purple Reds. It may be convenient, but it's also arbitrary. By the way, the various websites referenced which defined Crimson as being #xx0000 are just lazy. Whoever came up with those hex values almost certainly didn't consider adding some green or blue to match the hue of their organization's Crimson. Vid the Kid (t/c) Does this font make me look fat? 03:47, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

Is it just me or does the "infobox color" have "NIGGERS ARE BAD PEOPLE NIGGERS ARE BAD PEOPLE NIGGERS …" in it? The source of the template seems to be clean (to me), and so does the page itself when I try to edit it. I don't know where the vandalism is. Or am I seeing an old version? Weird. 142.151.182.152 (talk) 03:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes one of them was vandalized many hours ago. You may need to flush your cache to see the correct version. Wknight94 ^talk 04:35, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Colour coordinates box

I am not too happy with the colour coordinates box. For starters, in most cases (brown being a notable exception and even then it's relative to the environment) the colour name is independent of the brightness so at least one of the coordinates should be 255. Secondly, the source cited is the X11 colour list which is of dubious origin. Thirdly, crimson as defined as the colour of kermes is noticeably yellower and the exact colour depends on the concentration.

In short, the coordinates are, as it stands, misinformation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.139.81.0 (talk) 03:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

Addition to the Variations of Crimson

U.S. Army Ordnance Corps Crimson, as In 1835, the Ordnance Corps had a red plume - the same as Artillery. Crimson was prescribed as the Ordnance color in 1851. In 1902, it was changed to black and scarlet. Crimson and yellow were established as the branch colors on 14 October 1921. Nakamuradavid (talk) 03:59, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Reference http://www.alternatewars.com/BBOW/Colors/US_Army_Branch_Colors.htm

References

Error on page

There's a mismatch at the bottom of the page: the Boston University Crimson/Red has a Fire Brick picture on the side. --BigMac1212 (talk) 02:05, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

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Alabama Crimson

I see that Alabama Crimson was added to Crimson with

this edit

and removed with this edit

The source, when the entry was present, was to a site now not found.

However, this site exists, and purports to show the attributes. They do not match what is in the list here: List_of_colors:_A–F

nor do they match what was in this article prior to removal.

I would have guessed that Alabama Crimson would be ubiquitous enough to deserve inclusion but I'll leave it to editors to determine whether it belongs in this article.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:31, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Possible removal from list

Entries in List of colors: A–F contained links to this page.

The entries are :

• Crimson glory
• Crimson red
• Electric crimson
• Folly
• Light crimson

An entry in List of colors: N–Z contained a link to this page.

The entry is :

• Red devil
• Spartan Crimson
• Spanish crimson
• Vivid crimson

I don't see any evidence that these colors are discussed in this article and plan to delete them from the list per this discussion: Talk:List_of_colors#New_approach_to_review_of_entries

If someone decides that these colors should have a section in this article and it is added, I would appreciate a ping.--S Philbrick(Talk) 18:22, 11 September 2018 (UTC)

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