Talk:Deaths in 2024

Deaths needing proper citation

Via thorough browsing of the 2024 deaths category, I’ve found the following are marked as deceased and needing of proper citation. Rusted AutoParts 13:19, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

• January 2 – Larry Sherrer, 74, American football player (Montreal Alouettes, BC Lions) and ophthalmologist (sourced on X)
• January 22 – János Toldi, 96, Hungarian Olympic sprint canoer (sourced on Facebook)
• January 25 – Rick France, 85, British speedway rider (sourced on Facebook)
• February – Trefor Goronwy, 63, English musician (This Heat) (sourced on Facebook)
• February 2 – Peter Golfinopoulos, 95–96, American artist (sourced on Instagram)
• April 14 – Blackie Wangerin, 89, American racecar driver (sourced on Facebook)
• June 2 – Israel Even-Zahav, 77, Israeli Paralympic athlete (sourced on Facebook)
• June 7 – Dolores Cambridge, 87, Australian opera soprano (sourced on Vimeo video link of funeral)
• June 27 – Shaun Casey, 70, American model (sourced on Instagram and Facebook)
• September 11 – Myron Stankiewicz, 88, Canadian ice hockey player (sourced on his sister-in-law's family tree on Ancestry)
• September 22 – L. James Sullivan, 91, American firearms inventor (sourced on International Ammunition Association forum)
• September 26 – Ann Morrish, 96, British actress (sourced on IMDb and claims from a relative on Wikipedia here)
• October 4 – Peter Cummins, 93, Australian actor (sourced on Facebook here)
• October 14 – John Fraser Hart, 100, American geographer
• November – Phil Cohen, 80–81, British cultural theorist, urban ethnographer and community activist (sourced on X here)
• November 8 – Gabriel Kney, 94, Canadian builder of pipe organs (sourced on Facebook here)
• November 18 – Karl Kohn, 98, Austrian-born American composer, teacher and pianist (sourced on Facebook here)
• November – Manfred Ohrenstein, 99, American lawyer and politician, member of the New York State Senate (1961–1994) (sourced on Facebook here)

Phil Cohen has a reliable source – here – but sadly it doesn't identify him as the academic. Plenty of tweets suggested he committed suicide, and in the last post on his personal website he seemed very distressed. I'm not sure if there's a way we can piece all of these together but hopefully something more substantive comes along in the meantime. --Jkaharper (talk) 11:45, 14 November 2024 (UTC)

Copyedit time?

A little honesty is called for in the initial statement of basic format given the longstanding practice of deleting the "country of citizenship at birth" if it is "not a current citizenship" even if the successor state had never existed when the subject was born.

Aaron Kaufman's producer credits are piped to themselves...what's the point to that?

If WP:PEER WP:PEERS applies to Lord Hanningfield why is it not applied to the Marquess of Lothian who died on October 1st?..."Ancram" wasn't even his actual family name (of which family he eventually became Chief of the Name) and in Parliament the Lothian title was eventually used.71.105.190.91 (talk) 05:07, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm not aware of the practice described in your first sentence. If someone was born in East Germany then migrated to the USA, we should describe them as "East German-born American", not "German-born American". If they were born in East Germany then remained in Germany after the reunification, I'm happy with just "German ..." rather than the convoluted "East German-born German".

Link to WP:PEERS corrected, but I haven't addressed the Lothian issue.

Kaufman  Fixed. 06:42, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I was thinking more of Soviet/Czechoslovak/Yugoslav people born into a world that had never seen a particular Czech or Bosnian etc. state being retrospectively assigned to a "birth" nationality rather than the one in which they may have held office or played on national sports teams (since we delete those birth nationalities why say that all birth nationalities are equally part of the format?...my query was phrased as in "declare the actual policy" rather than "change the policy").

The link I meant (cribbed from the edit history relating to Lord Hanningfield) was WP:PEERS about alphabetization (I acknowledge the North/Eden exception cited there but I think that despite the article title Lord Lothian was being referred to more by his title after the need for the pseudonym had ended and press coverage was moving to a "that's what we used to call him" mode on "Michael Ancram"...and going to the usual practice is best for the historical record.

If you were making a semi-serious allusion to the West Lothian question relating to the "Midlothian question" applying to the still-recently-deceased Earl of Rosebery the Rosebery title was clearly primary and the Midlothian title did not need to be referenced in his case.71.105.190.91 (talk) 10:11, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

I note that Lord Lothian's entry has now been hived off to Deaths in October 2024 without this being addressed.71.105.190.91 (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Feel free to open up a specific discussion there, because this topic is a general one and will be archived at the end of November. Wyliepedia @ 05:35, 9 November 2024 (UTC)

Peanut

The squirrel, Peanut, died on November 1. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 06:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

October 30th -  Done, thanks. (A deletion discussion concerning Peanut's article is currently snowing as Keep.) Ref ^(chew)(do) 08:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. His article says "date of death = November 1" in the InfoBox. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 15:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

My mistake. And multiple editors at the deletion discussion seem unwilling to accept the number of Keep votes as a snowfall, it seems. Ref ^(chew)(do) 20:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC)

Yours is not necessarily a mistake. His article says "date of death = November 1" in the InfoBox. At the same time, the lead of the article says: "On October 30, 2024, he was seized from his owners' home by the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation and killed ...". So, I am not sure what date is correct. 32.209.69.24 (talk) 07:19, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Per USA Today, "Two days after he was seized from his home in New York, Peanut the Squirrel has been euthanized."[2] That confirms DOD as 1 November. Article lead updated for clarity. WWGB (talk) 07:35, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

There is a raging debate at Talk:Peanut (squirrel)#"Euthanasia" over the wording of his cause of death. We should follow any decision made there. WWGB (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Under the 10th...

...there are some entries that need tweaking...

Mary Pat Clarke did serve on the Baltimore City Council but Kenneth Oliver served instead on the Baltimore County Council as clearly stated in the source headline. As the linked article says Oliver was the first black member of the county council and he achieved that milestone in 2002...the city council's first black member was Harry S. Cummings who was elected back in 1890 and died even before the birth of Clarence H. Burns, whose defeat of Clarke for Council President put him in position to be the city's first black mayor in 1987. I suppose someone saw the one link to a Baltimore council and blindly copied it?

I see that the Luanvi founder Vicente Tarancon has been handed a redirect to that business...maybe it's my age speaking but I have trouble thinking he's the only person the name should be attached to compared to Vicente Enrique y Tarancon (noted in his article as widely known as Tarancon rather than Enrique despite Spanish naming practices) who was the most prominent figure in the Catholic Church in Spain in his time (Primate, Cardinal, Episcopal Conference president). It would make more sense for "Vicente Tarancon" to be a disambig than a redirect. 71.105.190.91 (talk) 00:46, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

The first error (or only error concerning this page) has been  Fixed. The second issue, that of correct or incorrect redirect targets, or status of disambig pages, is not a matter for discussion here. It needs to be brought up at the relevant redirect or disambig article talk page. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 15:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)

Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud

Not sure how reliable this source is that is reporting Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud's passing? TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:27, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Sadly it seems not to have any information included by way of About links or suchlike. I would not trust an unverified bunch of text such as it is right now. Ref ^(chew)(do) 00:39, 16 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2024

Erhart Neubert, who died on the 17th, is listed as an “evangelical priest”. This should be changed to minister or pastor as this is the preferred nomenclature. He is referred to a a minister in the source for the obituary. Arrows90 (talk) 16:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done - someone has changed it in line with his English article. Ref ^(chew)(do) 17:34, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2024

November 20 - José Luis Azcona, 84, Brazilian Román Catolic prelate, prelate of Marajó (1987-2016) [3] 171.33.234.234 (talk) 18:27, 20 November 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 22:12, 20 November 2024 (UTC)