Talk:Ellesmere Port

Assessment Report

1. Article needs to be expanded using Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/How to write about settlements as a guide.
2. Photos need to be added.
3. References and Citations are crucial for wikipedia, and so these must be added as the article is expanded. (See WP:References, WP:V, and WP:CITE for guidance.)

 DDStretch  (talk) 01:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Location

Ellesmere Port is on the Wirral Peninsula, even though it's not part of the Wirral borough. --RFBailey 20:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

As I understand it, Ellesmere Port is - and has always been - considered part of the Wirral Peninsula from a geographical point of view. Since local government reorganisation in 1974 it became part of the southern third of the peninsula that remained in the ceremonial county of Cheshire. It is therefore politically no longer part of the Wirral and that is where any disagreement appears to stem from. Is there a way to clarify this issue in the main article as both the introduction - and the article as a whole - has lately made no mention whatsoever of this? (Although it has done historically, been rewritten multiple times and was most recently by an anon IP in 2018. Any thoughts appreciated. Snowy 1973 (talk) 12:30, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Lewis's store

I was born in 1980, and as far as I know, the Lewis's store was there before then; so it was not built 'to complement the opening of the Port Arcades'. My memory of it is hazy, but I think the first new shop to open was TJ Hughes, followed by Asda.

I don't want to revert anything if someone knows this better than I do, but I'd like to see a citation to back up this claim. I know it was written a while ago, but I've been away for some time. Well not completely away, but I haven't been paying much attention to Wikipedia. --Steve Farrell 11:20, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I don't know either, as I;'m not familar with the town at all. I;'ve specifically tagged it as needing a citation, but as you will see from the template at the top of the article, most of it is unreferenced anyway. That's why when I assessed it, I mentioned the need for correct referencing. Unless this happens, it could be a possibility that most of this article gets be deleted, leaving only a stub. I don't want that to happen, and I'm sure others don't. But I don't have the knowledge to improve it at the moment. If you feel able to do so, please do so (and why not join the Cheshire WikiProject too, if you feel moved to do so.) Thanks for raising this issue.  DDStretch  (talk) 11:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty certain that Lewis' store was built well before the Port Arcades (which I think were built in the 90's but I'm not certain)it was then taken over by ASDA about 25 years ago and now is the indoor market.Articrainbow (talk) 13:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Notable residents

Someone told me crazy prisoner Charles Bronson was from the Port, though I doubt it. Also, Rob Jones is from Wrexham. ToneLa (talk)

Bronson is indeed from the Port, apparently his brother was a friend of my mum's. Rob Jones went to high school in Ellesmere Port, and I'm fairly sure he lived there most of his pre-professional footballing life. --Stevefarrell 04:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Bronson is definetly not from "the Port", in fact he's from Luton.He had grandparent connections in the Ellesmere Port area. 90.200.194.94

If it can be verified, and, thus, can be cited using an appropriate citation, then add it, together with citation. If it can't, omit it, or else risk it being deleted.  DDStretch  (talk) 14:12, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

This article from The Independent, 18 February 2000, talks about Bronson having grown up in both Ellesmere Port and Luton. So everybody's right. If nobody objects I'm going to add him back and cite this article. --Steve Farrell 11:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

With all due respect to The Independent, he didn't grow up in Ellesmere Port. It was more of a "passing thru", surely we would have no capacity left if we referenced everybody who passed through. Let us concentrate on people who were born/educated here. So yes I do mind, the information misleads. 80.176.67.99

He also has a son in the Port. 82.132.136.194

I've tagged all deceased people who are listed in the section, and I've also removed to be placed here, all living people. This was advised as being the correct course of action, as WP:BLP applies even though the article is not primarily a biographical article. Once appropriate verification is carried out by citing good reliable sources for each entry, then the newly verified entry, together with its citatoions, can be placed back into the article. Note that wikipedia cannot be used to verify this information, and so, if a good verification is present in a person's article on wikipedia, it should be transferred over to this article to yield separate verification. Thanks.  DDStretch  (talk) 13:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Entries in need of verification

• Rita Cullis, a renowned opera singer is from the town.
• Beverley Hughes, Labour Minister, born and educated in the town and still has family connections locally...CITATION IS OWN WIKIPEDIA ENTRY.
• Rob Jones, former Liverpool and England defender, resided in the town.
• Lee Latchford Evans, member of the former pop group Steps.
• Tony Martin, professional darts player. Born and educated in the town, he still lives in Ellesmere Port.
• Joe Mercer, Everton and Arsenal player and caretaker-manager of the England national football team was a resident in 1974. There is a street in the town centre (Mercer Walk) named after him. The street is now part of the Port Arcades shopping mall.He was born/raised in the town. [John Prescott]], the former British deputy prime minister, attended Grange Secondary Modern School in Ellesmere Port.
• Tony Woodley, head of the Transport and General Workers Union is not actually from the town, but resides there.
• Steve Veidor, the 'Handsome Heart-Throb' 1970s professional wrestler, was born in the town.
• Stuart Tomlinson, goalkeeper for Crewe Alexandra F.C. is currently a resident.

I think that's it so far.  DDStretch  (talk) 13:27, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Joe Mercer was definitely from Ellesmere Port. Paul and Ron Futcher went to the Grammar School. Ian Bowyer (Manchester City) is from Little Sutton. Articrainbow (talk) 13:02, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Paul and Ron Futcher didn't go to The Grammar, they were educated in Chester...Upton if I'm correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.210.72 (talk) 14:34, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

I've reinstrated Rita Cullis. Her biography at her website states she was born here, as does the book Cheshire's Famous: A Comprehensive Guide to Celebrity Cestrians by Bob Burrows. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Geography

Some of the names look fake, other places appear to be separate villages. References are needed. Peter James (talk) 08:19, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Grange Farm Estate (or part of it) was built before the 1950s. Google books has a reference to houses there damaged in World War II (Surveyor, Volume 104, Page 806). Ellesmere Port Pioneer's Ellesmere Port history page suggests it was built later, but it may have used Wikipedia as a source for its information. Peter James (talk) 12:51, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

Netherpool

Hi

Whilst the information about Ellesmere Port is obviously of interest, the area was usually called Netherpool at the turn of the 20th Century, and was known as the site of the Manchester Ship Canal Co works (see 1901 Census) whilst the Canal was being constructed. A number of my ancestors lived and worked in and around Netherpool along with many hundreds if not thousands of other canal workers, often in quite appalling conditions and this has been overlooked in the article and I believe that in relating details about Ellesmere Port it should have a mention of this time of great economic importance to the area. The Manchester Ship Canal Co Archives contain some fantastic photos of workers and housing taken at the time.

86.159.123.114 (talk) 15:04, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

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Disruptive editing

Right. Enough of this. I've partially protected the article for 3 months and I've blocked anonymous editors from editing from the IP account that's been doing all the latest disruption.  DDStretch  (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2018 (UTC)