Talk:Firewood
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Merge
editSee Talk:Wood heat for comments about merging. Securiger 04:55, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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editFor more information on the sale of firewood in Canada: http://www.ic.gc.ca/eic/site/mc-mc.nsf/eng/lm03963.html Woodcutter01 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodcutter01 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
"Today firewood is usually obtained from timber or trees unsuitable or unwanted for building or construction."
Not true. Maybe true for the US, but not likely even here. Firewood is cut by woodlot owners for many reasons. Internationally firewood may be any piece that can be gathered.
" In the United States, firewood is sold by the cord, and is therefore also called cordwood."
Why is the United States the focus of the article if firewood is the main source of heating and cooking fuel for at least 25 percent of the world population. This article is centered on the US and needs to be broadened in scope and coverage.
Someone please add more sophistication and geographic coverage to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.78.122.238 (talk) 21:30, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
I endorse this comment. The article in French is, to my mind, more useful. The Lawless One (talk) 12:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- "Cords" of wood are used in the UK, and I think Europe too. The point about a cord of wood is that it's a very simple measure - the overall size of the stack, rather than an impractical attempt to measure or weigh the exact volume of timber. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
This page should be linked/merged with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_fuel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.243.60.12 (talk) 06:15, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
- Wood fuel is broader than firewood, as it also includes industrial-scale biomass and post-production waste burning of sawdust. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:35, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
Urban Myth
editA German speaker was quoted on a Hearth.com forum. "The name Holz Hausen doesn’t exist! A Holz Haus would be a house built out of wood. A Holz Haufen is just wood thrown into a pile. The right word for this structures is Holz Miete and they don’t have a center pole."
I would like to see some data and a defination of "dry wood". Generally speaking, humidity, air movement and wood surface area are the variables that dry wood. Guess the claim in 3 months could happen in a dry windy climate environment in the middle of the summer.--Rcollman (talk) 01:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
- To your first point: A picture search for "American Holz Hausen" reveals several pictures of round wood stacks (for storage), which is what the article says. "Holz Hausen" is apparently an American idiom, with merely a German etymology. It should not be understood or treated as a German phrase. Yes, the German "Holzhaufen" would be = "pile of wood" and "Holzhaus" would be = "timber house", but here apparently some words escaped their original meaning or were misattributed/mistranslated. They became loan words and received their own meaning in English. It happens. Language lives. Definitions change. And that's not an "Urban Myth". --145.40.208.28 (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
Major edit
editI decided to jump in with a major edit because I agree with the comment that this page was all about the United States. I burn wood in New England to heat my house and have lived in a few different cultures around the world where firewood was used for staying warm, cooking and ceremonial purposes. I got rid of the "how to", which are nice ideas but not always factual. Other should feel free to edit my edits. --69.205.10.60 (talk) 13:35, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Major edit
editYour article on Holz Hausen's is perpetuating a myth, in that they accelerate seasoning of firewood over standard wood ricks or rows. Yes, they are sturdy, store large volumes of wood and look great, but they do not accelerate wood seasoning - on the contrary, wood ricks / rows are superior to HH's for faster seasoning of firewood.
The referenced site claiming this has no proof of such a claim - I did a scientific experiment and published the results dis-proving or busting this myth, which can be seen here:
http://soede.net/soede/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=485&Itemid=29
The full experiment can be seen here:
http://soede.net/soede/index.php?option=com_content&task=category§ionid=5&id=14&Itemid=29
Regards,
David Soede aka Apprentice_GM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.196.4 (talk) 23:17, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
Ideas
editI burn wood and I can recognize this article could be greatly expanded. I do not have time but I wanted to leave some ideas here. The German Wikipedia article is a good model. Theses topics are probably mentioned elsewhere but the historical progression of burning firewood was a fire ring, fireplace (of different types), wood stove, wood boiler. The invention of the chimney dramatically changed how houses were used and built. A comparison of energy values can be greatly expanded. Efficiency could be discussed? Kiln dried firewood is not discussed. The topic of the spread of invasive species should be given more weight. Methods of igniting wood could be mentioned. Qualities of certain species like ash being better to burn as a green wood than say red oak (seasoned wood is always better but not always available).Jim Derby (talk) 01:14, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
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Waste terminology
editDavidWBrooks, Vsmith, @Huntbe: This should be discussed here. On my part, my opinion is that "waste" of one process can be useful for another use. I have no problem with this terminology. Invasive Spices (talk) 24 November 2021 (UTC)
The Nigeria section looks like a large language model output
editIt's speech style matches that of common language models like GPT4 and it's tone looks out of place compared to the rest of the page. 2001:56A:F8F2:E200:FCC6:51A1:DBE0:9077 (talk) 19:58, 3 June 2024 (UTC)