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Somewhat Biased?
editI understand that much of the information in this article comes from mainstream news and that FirstEnergy might not merit an article without its current scandals. However, it does not look well-written when the vast majority of the article focuses on negative aspects without giving any more information about the company and without including its response to the charges made. N Vale 06:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think you are taking NPV too far. I read the article a couple of time and its honestly sound neutral to me. See, when someone says an article is not neutral, it is mainly due to the tone or assertions that are not supported by facts. This articles tone is okay and he point out figure whenever necessary.
- You have to accept its not always possble to present all side of the story. We are helping out and who ever wrote it presented what is public which happen to be negative. He/she can't go hunting for the owner to present the other side of the story. And some stories can never be balanced ever, because the entity involved was/were downright evil. Should that really warrant an article being labelled NPV? How do you write a biography of a mass killer in Rwanda and avoid this label? And trust me, I know of people who could say Mobutu was a good leader with a straight face, so such a claim/example is not far fetched.
- It didn't seem to be an egregious violation and I attempted to find the most mild template possible. It would still be better to include whatever public statement the company may have made in these areas as any professional report would require. However, the rearranging of the information does much to alleviate my concern by making a definition of the company primary and its scandals secondary. Is there any official procedure or may I simply remove the POV banner? N Vale 20:41, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- It seemed safe to just go ahead and remove the POV banner seeing as this topic hadn't been touched in over 2 months. I agree with the anonymous editor in that this is about as neutral as it can get without being redundant and pedantic. Oncehour 10:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- I would concur this article does not violate/is not NPV/POV and that it is informative and informational. Scandals are incorporated into almost every article for companies, whether public or private. That’s all that’s happening here.
- Can we go ahead and archive this Talk topic? Thnx! Gobucks821 (talk) 12:28, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- It seemed safe to just go ahead and remove the POV banner seeing as this topic hadn't been touched in over 2 months. I agree with the anonymous editor in that this is about as neutral as it can get without being redundant and pedantic. Oncehour 10:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Orphaned references in FirstEnergy
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Reference named "10K":
- From Exelon: "2010 Form 10-K, Exelon Corporation". United States Securities and Exchange Commission.
- From American Electric Power: "2010 Form 10-K, American Electric Power Company, Inc". United States Securities and Exchange Commission.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 10:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
Merger proposal
editIt is proposed at WPM that Allegheny Energy be merged into this article. Discuss here. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 11:45, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
- Nay. Keep the articles separate at least for the time being. There is enough history and content available about Allegheny Energy to keep it a separate article. Just my thoughts. Johnston.josh (talk) 01:34, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
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Ohio scandal in lead
editIn the last few minutes I've added the following passage to the lead:
On July 21 2020, Speaker of the Ohio House of Representatives, Larry Householder, former Ohio Republican Party Chairman Matt Borges, and three others were accused of accepting $60 million in bribes from FirstEnergy in exchange for $1.3 billion worth of benefits in the form of Ohio House Bill 6,[1] as part of what became known as the Ohio nuclear bribery scandal. The stock price of the company plummeted within hours of the arrests bring made. First Energy denies involvement in the charges.[2] As of July 22, 2020, FirstEnergy has not been named as a defendant. According to U.S. Attorney David DeVillers, the investigation is far from over. "There are a lot of federal agents knocking on a lot of doors."[3]
References
- ^ Cite error: The named reference
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ Cite error: The named reference
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was invoked but never defined (see the help page). - ^ Armus, Teo (22 July 2020). "GOP Ohio House speaker arrested in connection to $60 million bribery scheme". washingtonpost.com. Washington Post. Retrieved 22 September 2020.
Weirdly, Ohio nuclear bribery scandal says this was a scandal in the opening sentence. My quick search to determine if the aftermath is already now in the past tense (almost impossible to comprehend for a scandal of this magnitude) turned up the WaPo article from July, which basically said "knock, knock, guess who?"
If someone else can find a citation saying this knocking has now ceased, and all the G-men are resting at ease, feel free to update that material.
In my opinion the lead must summarize scandals of this magnitude, and most especially ongoing scandals where the aftershocks continue to roll along. — MaxEnt 20:55, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Role in 2003 Northeast Blackout
editIs there a reason why the article limits FirstEnergy's responsibility for the massive 2003 Northeastern United States blackout solely to poor management of tree growth along transmission lines? The NERC investigation fingered FirstEnergy for significantly more responsibility than just that; and the Wikipedia article on the blackout itself reflects some of that. -- Funkapus (talk) 06:47, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
Disputed: Section on FE Services/Bankruptcy - FE Services as subsidiary of an LLC?
editIn the section “Bankruptcy of FirstEnergy Services Corp. and formation of Energy Harbor Corp.”, it’s stated in paragraph 2, 2nd sentence that: “ FirstEnergy Solutions Corp. was a member of FirstEnergy Generation, LLC–itself a generation subsidiary of FirstEnergy–while FirstEnergy itself remained solvent.”
However, there are no available records showing that either FirstEnergy Services Corp. -or- (the subsequently known) FirstEnergy Solutions Corp. were ever a subsidiary of purported FirstEnergy Generation, LLC. Nor is it shown that Generation LLC is owned by FirstEnergy Corp anywhere in this article. Generation is also NOT mentioned in the citation provided for that sentence.
Please provide some input on this. I’ll do a bit more research via the Ohio Secretary of State records, as I’ve already done heavily for this article (as recent as today), to see if I can find such a link and citation. Otherwise, I challenge that this is erroneous and plan to remove all mentions of “FirstEnergy Generation, LLC”. Gobucks821 (talk) 18:11, 11 August 2024 (UTC)
Add section on 06-Aug-2024 storms/outage?
editMajor severe storms, including 4 tornadoes, hit northern/northeastern Ohio on August 06, 2024, knocking out power to over 400k FE customers, primarily in its The Illuminating Company footprint. I propose adding a new section because “FirstEnergy has called the storms that hit on Tuesday, Aug. 6, the most impactful that The Illuminating Company service territory has seen in more than 30 years,” as have many other sources.
I may go ahead and just start this section on my own if no other feedback soon. This page doesn’t have much Talk activity, with some Talk sections dating 7 years ago and not archived/deleted. Gobucks821 (talk) 12:32, 12 August 2024 (UTC)
- How about adding the storm outage to List_of_major_power_outages? Flurrious (talk) 20:15, 12 August 2024 (UTC)