Talk:List of railway roundhouses
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No Railroad Roundhouse in Point Arena
editIt's an indigenous Pomo native American structure, no railroad connection at all. http://escholarship.org/uc/item/8g77t4qx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.231.239 (talk) 08:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
- Right, that was about the Point Arena Rancheria Roundhouse, which is listed on the National Register of Historic Places, but which is indeed not railway-related at all. Photo and NRHP nomination document about it are available here. --Doncram (talk) 17:13, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
roundhouse vs. turntable
editWhat is the difference between a roundhouse vs. a turntable, and are items of the latter type wanted for this list? Oyster Bay Long Island Rail Road Turntable is one example listed on the U.S. National Register. All the other NRHP ones with "turntable" but not "roundhouse" in their name are:
- Bagby Stationhouse, Water Tanks and Turntable, El Portal, CA
- Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis, and Omaha Turntable, Currie, MN
- Conway Junction Railroad Turntable Site, South Berwick, ME
- Nevada Central Turntable, Austin, NV. The site includes foundation of a former engine house, not necessarily a roundhouse. The engine house got disassembled and put into storage eventually. Article was included in roundhouse categories, but I just removed those. --Doncram (talk) 23:59, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
- New Haven Railroad Danbury Turntable, Danbury, CT
- Rockland Turntable and Engine House, Rockland, ME
doncram (talk) 20:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- I believe turntables were the devices used to rotate locomotives, whereas roundhouses were the actual buildings that housed the locomotives, usually surrounding or next to a turntable. --D.B.talk•contribs 22:09, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
- Back again, nine years later. The Bagby listing is partly about its turntable, a "surviving manual or "Armstrong" gallows frame turntable, a device once common on branch and short line railroads, but now exceedingly rare, only one other being known" ( NRHP doc). Of the Yosemite Valley Railroad. There's no mention of a roundhouse having existed.
- But should this be a list of roundhouses and turntables, not just roundhouses, so include the Bagby one and perhaps other turntables that might be found? --Doncram (talk) 17:18, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
List of Roundhouses or list of SURVIVING roundhouses?
editThis appears to be a list of SURVIVING roundhouses, but is not titled or described as such. A list of all roundhouses that ever existed would be huge. Just surviving roundhouses would be a sizable list. --Ebtrr1 (talk) 20:04, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, Ebtrr1, now it seems to be a mix, some surviving, some former sites, and many having no source or information at all about them. I think that the list should be revised/clarified to be a list of "notable" roundhouses, where "notable" means having a Wikipedia article with sources there, or being a redlink (calling for an article) or blacklink (not having an article) with inline citations speaking to the notability of the place. --Doncram (talk) 17:23, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
Austria
editThere seems to be a roundhouse in Salzburg, right near the main railway station, and it looks as though it's still in use, albeit not for steam locomotives. Does anybody know anything about that? Have a look: 47°49′02″N 13°02′47″E / 47.817261°N 13.046420°E. Kelisi (talk) 16:03, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
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Railway engine workshops, not round
editHey, the Stewartstown Engine House, Stewartstown Railroad in Pennsylvania is in Category:Engine houses and seems to be a dedicated building for working on railway engines. But it is not a roundhouse, it is not round, it is just a building over one straight section of track. Should this and/or any other railroad workshop buildings be added to this list? Perhaps requiring a list name change. I am thinking not, and leaving it out for now. --Doncram (talk) 21:43, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
There is also The Engine House, Shropshire, England, a museum which has multiple railway engines, but with no mention of roundness, seems like no roundhouse present. And there exist numerous railway museums (Category:Railway museums) having some engines but no roundhouse. --Doncram (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
NRHP items, info added, October 2018
editFollowing are notes from temporary work section for U.S. NRHP information that was temporarily in mainspace, about
- NRHP ones to be merged into state sections below (i.e. into the state-by-state subsections)
Hits on "roundhouse" (after deleting AK, CA, VT ones which are not railway-related)
Hot Springs Railroad Roundhouse, Malvern, AR, NRHP-listedcovered belowSouthern Pacific Railroad Bayshore Roundhouse, Brisbane, CA, NRHP-listedcovered below, article expandedMidland Terminal Railroad Roundhouse, Colorado Springs, CO, NRHP-listedcovered belowComo Roundhouse, Railroad Depot and Hotel Complex, Como, CO, NRHP-listedcovered belowConnecticut Valley Railroad Roundhouse and Turntable Site, Old Saybrook, CT, NRHP-listedcovered belowChicago, Burlington, & Quincy Roundhouse and Locomotive Shop, Aurora, IL, NRHP-listedcovered belowHollins-Roundhouse Historic District, Baltimore, MD, NRHP-listed.NRHP doc is extremely slow to load. Does not to include the roundhouse for which it is apparently named, now the B&O Railroad Museum, adjacent to the district, which is covered below anyhow.Kansas City Terminal Railway Company Roundhouse Historic District, Kansas City, MO, NRHP-listednow covered below (link to new article added)AT & SF Roundhouse, Las Vegas, NM, NRHP-listednow covered below (link to new article added)Chicago and North Western Roundhouse, Huron, SD, NRHP-listednow covered below (link to new article added)Union Pacific Roundhouse, Turntable and Machine Shop, Cheyenne, WY, NRHP-listedcovered below
Additional items in Category:Railway roundhouses on the National Register of Historic Places
Georgia State Railroad Museum, Savannah, GAwas covered below as Roundhouse Railroad MuseumTwo Brothers Roundhouse, Aurora, ILcovered belowRoundhouse ruins at Conway Junction Railroad Turntable Site, South Berwick, ME, NRHP-listedadded to belowB&O Railroad Museum, MDcovered belowThe Henry Ford, Dearborn, MIcovered below, now as Detroit, Toledo & Milwaukee RoundhouseNevada Central Turntable, Austin, NV, NRHP-listed,includes foundation of a former engine house, not necessarily a roundhouse, although categorized as roundhouse. Removing categories, noting at Talk, not including below.Bartlett Roundhouse, NH, NRHP-listedadded link belowSanta Fe Railway Shops (Albuquerque), NMadded item below: at least there once was a roundhouse there, current status unclearBaltimore and Ohio Railroad Martinsburg Shops, WVcovered below, note added about being the oldest covered one in U.S.Wyoming Transportation Museum, Cheyenne, WYcovered below, with Union Pacific Roundhouse, Turntable and Machine ShopUnion Pacific Railroad Complex (Evanston, Wyoming), roundhouse with 27 stalls built in 1912, NRHP-listedcovered below
Additional hits on "turntable", as there will usually/often have been a roundhouse at any turntable. Should list be changed to cover roundhouses and turntables?
- Bagby Stationhouse, Water Tanks and Turntable, El Portal, CA -- has a rare turntable, no roundhouse. Mentioned as issue now at Talk.
- New Haven Railroad Danbury Turntable, Danbury, CT, NRHP-listed. Turntable, no mention of roundhouse.
Rockland Turntable and Engine House, Rockland, ME, NRHP-listedincludes roundhouse; added categories to article & added link below- Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis, and Omaha Turntable, Currie, MN, NRHP-listed. New article. There is mention of a roundhouse but no evidence vs. possibility of merely a single engine train shed. I just put into turntable category, but not roundhouse categories.
- Oyster Bay Long Island Rail Road Turntable, Oyster Bay, NY, NRHP-listed. Turntable, no mention of roundhouse.
Also check all contents of Category:Engine houses Done. This added the Belt Railroad Engine House and Sandhouse, San Francisco, CA, now covered below.
--Doncram (talk) 16:39, 27 October 2018 (UTC)