Talk:Make Poverty History

Latest comment: 3 years ago by AnonMoos in topic unclear phrase

Live 8

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I have changed the priority of events on 2 July: the march was more important, and was the original aim of MPH: Live8 came along so that pop stars could jump on the bandwagon as it were.Boleslaw 00:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC) DBReply

Merge

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I suggested that End Poverty Now should be merged to this article because it began as an offshoot of the campaign. I don't think it's prominent enough to have its own article yet, but maybe sometime later it can be split if the section gets too big. Thoughts? Phydend 02:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)Reply

This merger has been incorrectly done. While the French version of the Make Poverty history campaign is known as Abolissons La Pauvrété (which, incidentally, literally translates to 'end poverty now'), the English version of the campaign is NOT called End Poverty Now. Put differently, the Canadian arm of the Make Poverty History campaign and the NGO known officially as End Poverty Now are completely distinct entities. The former is a campaign of collective organizations and individuals; the latter is a stand-alone organization that, while it remains affiliated with the campaign, was created independently by a small grouping of the MPH campaign's member base. In the article, everything that appears below the bulleted list is pertinent only to End Poverty Now.

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There were 4 youtube links in this article, one of which was a dead link, the other 3 which didn't appear to have anything to do with this topic, I've removed them all. --Xyzzyplugh 12:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

lobbying against the G8 vs. making the G8 do something

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this article is confused. it mistakes those people who believe that the G8 should not exist (because it is an anti-democratic policy laundering body which imposes policies debated behind closed doors) with the MakePovertyHistory and LiveAid body which lobbied the G8 to do something about poverty without criticism of the other policies or nature of the G8.

The context of this is that there have always been massive protests against the G8 and the process of demonstrations meant that the government could marginalise dissent and claim that these protests were in favour of government action. It's a classic disinformation technique which was sponsored by government funded bodies. Let's be clear about this. Not all protests had anything to do with the nebulous and pointlesss MPH/ LiveAid bandwagon...which achieved nothing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.157.32.16 (talk) 22:00, 29 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

ONE section

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"at least 0.3% of the national budget, around US$30 billion, to foreign aid, and increase it further to the UN goal of 0.7% of GDP, around US$73 billion as of 2004,"

Above implies the US budget is about the same as US GDP, clearly wrong. Bush's proposed fy2008 budget is ~$2.9 trillion, around 20% of GDP. US budget history (pdf) I think the UN goal was 0.7% of GNP, no good source, and the ONE aid goal seems to be "an additional 1% of the federal budget" for "International Affairs", which they say is already 1.2% of the budget. I think the $30B is right, but the 0.3%, 0.7% and $73B don't make sense; maybe it's best to leave the details to the main ONE Campaign page? -69.235.194.235 (talk) 12:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

A more specific goal is to get President George W. Bush to commit at least 0.3% of the national budget, around US$30 billion, to foreign aid, and increase it further to the UN goal of 0.7% of GDP, around US$73 billion as of 2004, over the next several years. In 2004, the United States Government spent US$7 billion on foreign aid.
I've removed the above, since the wrong numbers in the first sentence look bad, but I don't know enough to correct them; the second sentence may be fine for all I know, but seems a non-sequitur without the first. -69.235.194.235 (talk) 12:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)Reply


UK vs international MPH campaign

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The article starts of talking about the MPH campaign as if it is just a UK thing. Clearly it is not when you can see further below that the MPH campaign runs in a number of different countries. I think the introduction should be changed to introduce the campaign as an international movement under GCAP and have a section on MPH in the UK. It would probably be good to have a bit about how the first MPH campaign was started and how it spread to other countries, but I think it should try and show the international nature of the campaign.

Anyone have any reservations/suggestions before I do anything?


Be bold.--JK the unwise (talk) 08:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
I agree with the comment above that it doesn't make sense to have the intro only talking about UK when it is clearly in a number of countries. However being from Australia I don't actually know how it started or how it spread, so I will start of suitably vague, but if anyone has any more to add please do! JenLouise (talk) 09:16, 31 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

GCAP

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Given that MPH and GCAP are actually different things - MPH being a country-based campaign that actively campaigns to change government policies, and GCAP being an international, umbrella campaign - and that there is already an existing article on the Global Call to Action Against Poverty (CGAP), I have removed the paragraph from this article and included a link to the other article in the intro paragraph. JenLouise (talk) 09:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

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unclear phrase

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"8th Millennium Development Goal" -- what does this mean? AnonMoos (talk) 06:37, 28 November 2020 (UTC)Reply