Talk:Nanai people
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editThe main page should be Nanai, and Hezhe should re direct to Nanai, simply because there are more Nanai in Russia than Hezhe in China, and Nanai is the closest name to what these people call themselves, which is "Nani". The Hezhe of China do not call themselves Hezhe.
Another article that needs to tell about the language of the people... --Gringo300 07:47, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
just asking but are the Hezhe the same ethnic group with the Nanai in Russia? --Abstrakt 21:35, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
This looks almost like Chinese propaganda, or at least a very stilted view of the Nanai people from a Chinese point of view. --205.251.8.201 01:51, 6 December 2005
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The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 06:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- Hezhen → Nanai — More common name for an ethnic group that lives in both Russia and China. — Talk:Hezhen — Nat Krause(Talk!) 20:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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Requesting move per talk above. Note that the current content of Nanai is a cut-and-paste fork executed on April 3, 2006—basically identical to this page. Since Nanai does have it's own edit history (although it was always a stub before becoming a redirect and a duplicate), it should be moved to Nanais as turned into a redirect when the move is carried out. - Nat Krause(Talk!) 20:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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Qing dynasty Aisin Gioro Y chromosome DNA found in Nanai
editAisin Gioro Y chomosome DNA was found in "Xibe, Outer Mongolians, Inner Mongolians, Ewenki, Oroqen, Manchu, and Hezhe" males and number around 1 million people. Their ancestor was Nurhaci's grandfather Giocangga, whose descendants made up the Qing dynasty nobility. But the Y chromosome was not found in the general Han Chinese population.
The Y chromosome cluster is specifically C3c, part of the General Haplogroup C-M217, which Genghis Khan's lineage is a part of, although the Manchu Aisin Gioro Y chromosome is part of a different cluster than Genghis Khan's
The reason it spread among these specific minority groups, but not among the Han Chinese population, is because the Qing Manchu nobility was concentrated specifically in the ethnically Manchu Eight Banners and not in the Mongolian and Han Eight Banners, and the specific ethnic groups which made up the Manchu Eight banners were "Manchu, Mongolian, Daur, Oroqen, Ewenki, Xibe".
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1285168/
http://www.cell.com/ajhg/pdf/S0002-9297(07)63394-1.pdf
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707633941
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