Talk:Perth Amboy, New Jersey
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Mayors
edit- Frank Dorsey, 1919 https://books.google.com/books?id=xYAtkTbMWOMC&pg=PA327
There are a lot of Portuguese people
edit- Indeed, perhaps you can work that into the article. Nelson Ricardo 16:51, Jan 8, 2005 (UTC)
Why was all the historical information delected from this article? "elbow of land"? because it's wrong; Perth is from Perth, Scotland. yea martinez
Just to set the record straight, the name "Perth" came from the Earl of Perth, not from Perth, Scotland. My source for this information is the City of Perth Amboy website located at: http://www.ci.perthamboy.nj.us/html/city_history.html
The Demographics make no sense
editIn 2000, 27.79% of Perth Amboy residents identified as being of Puerto Rican ancestry, the fifth highest concentration of Puerto Ricans on the U.S. mainland[1]. In 2000, 18.81% of Perth Amboy residents identified themselves as being of Dominican ancestry, the third highest concentration in the country of Dominicans in the United States after Haverstraw, New York and Lawrence, Massachusetts[2]. However due to the increasing immigration of Dominicans since the 2000 census and the likely number of Dominicans in the U.S. illegally who were not counted, the actual percentage of Dominicans in Perth Amboy is estimated in 60 percent. [citation needed]
I think you mean percentages there is no way that the information i marked in bold is correct.
- They may well overlap; but I don't see why the information bolded is obviously impossible. The last sentence is unsourced speculation, and I removed it. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 18:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- The stat is about percentages. Obviously if you were looking at raw numbers, the biggest cities would have the most of almost every ancestry group and it'd be a worthless stat. Also, if you're thinking that Perth Amboy Puerto Rican and Dominican populations really aren't anything special, if you get out of the NY area, there really aren't that many. They're mostly confined to the Northeast and Florida (although they are moving out to places like Lancaster, they're not all over the Midwest or West Coast yet). Passdoubt | Talk 19:24, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- The two statements regarding percentages of Puerto Rican and Dominican ancestry are directly derived from the sources provided. The rankings are based on percentage of population in communities where at least 1,000 residents identified their ancestry. There may well be communities that have higher absolute numbers of Puerto Rican or Dominican residents, but that's not what is being indicated. The statement re changes since 2000 and illegal residents is entirely unsupported and will be removed. Alansohn 19:31, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Etymology of "Perth Amboy"
editCan somebody provide the etymology of the name? That should be in the article. Jrdx 16:49, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
Journal of Nicholas Cresswell, Dial Press, 1924 ed. Samuel Thornley, online version at http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/S?ammem/lhbtnbib:@field(TITLE+@od1(The+journal+of+Nicholas+Cresswell,+1774-1777+))
"This City (for it is called a City), tho' it does not contain more than 200 Houses mostly built of wood, is the capital of East New Jersey and was called Perth Amboy from its first founder, the Earl of Perth, who was once proprietor of East New Jersey, but surrendered his right to the Crown in 1737. I believe it never was a place of any trade, tho' very conveniently situated for it. There is a fine safe and commodious harbour and within sight of the Sea, but very few Rivers of any consequence empty themselves into it, which perhaps may be the reason why they have no trade here. The City is very handsomely laid out in Hundred acres of land and contains 150 Lots or squares for building upon. There is one Church, a Meeting House. The Courthouse is a good brick building and the Governor's house is an elegant stone building, said to have cost £4000." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charta (talk • contribs) 10:39, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
The Lenni Lenape name for the area was Ompoge which meant something along the lines of elbow or point. From another source I've also heard that it meant "bowl shaped area". But from McGinnis' Perth Amboy history book (available at the PA library) "Ompoge" eventually, over time, became "Amboy". also see the book Nova Caesaria and Ompoge Point[1] Xaninjurytoallx (talk) 03:30, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
References
NPOV Flag
editLast several paragraphs in History section read like a promotional brochure at points, rather than history. Needs some editing and cleaning up (e.g., "slightly passing or failing," "a cop on every corner") to maintain neutral tone and Wikipedia standards. Thanks.
- The paragraphs you were talking about were changed or eliminated two hours after you added the NPOV tag (July 27, 2007). I've removed the NPOV tag in the article. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 14:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Incorporation
edit"Perth Amboy was chartered as a city by an Act of the New Jersey Legislature on December 21, 1784."
"Perth Amboy was settled in 1683 and incorporated as a city in 1718."
The two sentences in the main article appear to be contradictory!
History
editI once saw a nautical map of the NJ coastline in a rare books/prints store. I wish I could remember the year of the map, but it clearly listed a "Pertham Buoy" and a "Southam Buoy" just off the coast at the approximate present-day locations of these two towns. NothingInParticular (talk) 21:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
Want to add reference
editI added the name of David T. Wilentz to the list of notable residents of P.A. and wanted to add an appropriate reference also, but couldn't figure out how. The reference should be #38 and is: http://nj.gov/oag/oag/ag_1934-1944_wilentz_bio.htm. Please help. Apace361 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Apace361 (talk • contribs) 00:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
- Done. For a URL, enter at the point you want the footnote (the superscript [#]):
- <ref>
- [
- the url including http://
- a space
- everything you want to display in the reference list below; may include spaces
- ]
- </ref>
- For more information, see Wikipedia:Footnotes. If you're editing a single section, see this too. Hope that helps. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 14:20, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Joseph Montani - Notable Resident
editThe Article lists Joseph Montani as a notable resident of Perth Amboy. Instead of listing his name and occupation (as is done with other notable residents) the notation contains a mini biography of him. Mr. Montani does not have a wikipedia page from which one can judge whether he is or is not notable. I certainly think that the mini-biography here is out of place and inappropriate. I would suggest that (1) he be removed from this article or (2) that his entry be edited to conform to other notable residents, (i.e. that his name and occupation be listed and that a link be inserted to a yet to be created wikipedia page on Mr. Montani, which naturally should conform to Wikipedia's policies on notability.) Franklin Moore (talk) 02:51, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
Missing info on "Department of Justice: Perth Amboy, New Jersey, to Upgrade Sewer System to Resolve Clean Water Act Violations"
editI found not a single line about the sewer issue of Perth Amboy, New Jersey, and it is by very random chance someone told me about this issue in a completely unrelated discussion on a unrelated to both wikipedia and Perth Amboy, New Jersey forum post.
http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/perth-amboy-new-jersey-upgrade-sewer-system-resolve-clean-water-act-violations
Quotes: "The city of Perth Amboy, N.J., has agreed to make major improvements in its combined sewer system to protect people’s health and water quality under a legal agreement with the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Under the agreement, which was lodged by the Department of Justice in federal court today, the city will reduce the amount of sewage and other pollutants that flow out of 16 combined sewer points into the Raritan River and Arthur Kill. Combined sewer systems are sewers that are designed to collect rainwater runoff, domestic sewage and industrial wastewater in the same pipe.
Perth Amboy violated the Clean Water Act and its New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection discharge permit by failing to properly maintain and operate its sewer system, conduct regular inspections and have a pollution prevention plan in place. The city also violated a previously issued EPA order to address Clean Water Act violations."
Sorry to have to say so, but it feels like whitewashing, when the major who build the sewer in the 19th century is mentioned in the article, but the very recent sewer issue is completely omitted.
Is the above quote too short to be included in the article? Or is it too long? To me, it appears the quote I choose wraps up the matter quite well. --Rava77 (talk) 23:32, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Bugs Bunny
editWorth mentioning that Perth Amboy is the fictional hometown of Bugs Bunny? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.94.159 (talk) 17:05, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
Bicycle Shop in Perth Amboy
editThere is a bicycle shop in Perth Amboy at 466 Amboy Avenue https://www.nbcycling.us/. I corrected the comment that said otherwise.Mwinog2777 (talk) 19:25, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
editThere is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Raritan yacht club which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 06:57, 5 April 2022 (UTC)