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Featured article review?
editI've just chopped an unsourced section, but there is quite a lot of uncited text elsewhere, making the article non-compliant with Wikipedia:Featured article criteria. Wikipedia:Featured article review is currently working through featured articles that have not been reviewed in the last 8 years and this article is listed near the top. DrKay (talk) 13:49, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Astrobiology missions
editI wonder if it is appropriate to include a brief section on some of the space missions (Viking, Phoenix, Curiosity, ExoMars, 2020 Mars rover), that had an emphasis in habitability assessment. Cheers, BatteryIncluded (talk) 23:35, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
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Zones
editThe "habitable zone" is defined as water habitable zone, looks to be the only determinate for the habitability of a planet here. But, new measurements show there are other habitable zones. Planetary habitability for life must simultaneously reside in all of the 9 known habitable zones: water, ultraviolet, photosynthetic, ozone, rotation rate, obliquity, tidal, atmosphere, and atmospheric electric field.
- this would need a source. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:30, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
- Naturally: Maybe should be a new page Habitability zones? As there is lot of info on this topic.Telecine Guy (talk) 02:48, 2 December 2016 (UTC)
Universität Wien, Habitable Zone, Isabella Kraus, January 18, 2012
Texas U. Habitable Zones around Main Sequence Stars, by DP Whitmire - 1993
Ohio State, Habitable Zones around Stars, by Prof. Richard Pogge, 2012
Harvard, Tectonics and the photosynthetic habitable zone, by Sleep, N. H., Dec. of 2009
space.com, How to Find Aliens: Follow the Photosynthesis, By Charles Q. Choi, July 22, 2010
Washington U., The Feasibility of Photosynthesis on Extrasolar Planets, By Edward Schwieterman
Astrobiology Mag., Rotation of Planets Influences Habitability, By Amanda Doyle, Aug. 7, 2014
astrobio.net, Tidal Habitable Zone, Jun 17, 2009
Harvard, Tidal Limits to planetary habitability, R. Barnes 2009
- Zones move over time. Reviews of Geophysics, The faint young Sun problem, by Georg Feulner, Feb 11, 2014
planetary.org, The Habitable Zone of Inhabited Planets, by Jaime Green, July 7, 2014
Explain the slang: habitable
editI understand that specialists in a narrow field love to submerge in their own slang, but I think one role of the encyclopedia is to open the field to the public by translating the slang to a generally understandable language. To an average user it would be obvious that planet that is uninhabitable is unsuitable for colonization from the outside. That's the dictionary meaning of the word: a house is not habitable - you can travel there, but cannot live there. Reading this article, it implies that a planet that is not "habitable" (in the scientific slang sense) can be perfectly suitable for settlers. (Example? A huge star offers 100 thousand years stability, insufficient for "habitable", very much sufficient for colonization.) Is it possible to find a reliable source for an explanation that would clear this up? I volunteer to write the explanation, but I cannot find any source. --Kubanczyk (talk) 12:12, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- ♠While I'd take issue with "slang" ("jargon", perhaps, if that wasn't a bit pejorative for my liking), let me try & explain as I understand it. "Habitable" is "can be lived on without special equipment" (pressure suit, diving gear); "colonizable" (if that's a word...) includes planet (such as Mars) where either or both would be needed.
- ♠In the scientific community, the usage is a bit different still: they tend to mean "suitable for the evolution & current existence of a life form like us" (which is a desperately anthropocentric kind of bias...). TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 20:13, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
- Habitability ONLY refers to the innert physical and chemical environment. Therefore it is possible to find a habitable planet that is sterile and uninhabited. 98.100.145.6 (talk) 20:28, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
- "Habitability has been defined as the potential of an environment (past or present) to support life of any kind." NASA ASTROBIOLOGY STRATEGY 2015
- BatteryIncluded (talk) 18:48, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
Is a sterile planet at all likely to have a human-breathable atmosphere? If not, habitability cannot include the scenario of a sterile planet that we could colonize. Dysamoria (talk) 16:42, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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Mercury Past Habitability Reference
editPlanetary Characteristics: Orbit & Rotation: The two articles cited for a possible prior habitability of Mercury refer to a source paper that does not seem to mention life or habitability. Did I miss the relevant content behind a paywall? Dysamoria (talk) 16:45, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
- One is a newspaper report and the other says "Metastable and potentially habitable conditions might have developed episodically or transiently within these crustal materials". This does not support the comment in the article so I will delete. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:14, 14 December 2021 (UTC)