Talk:Prince Charming

Latest comment: 10 months ago by MBG02 in topic First use

Disney's Cinderella and Prince Charming

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I read on IMDB that the prince in "Cinderella" is at no time referred as "Prince Charming". So, "Prince Charming" does not come from the orginal 1950 Disney movie. I don't know where it comes from but it's not from that movie. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.164.61.19 (talkcontribs) 21:34, 1 February 2007

In the 1937 movie, Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, the prince's name is simply "The Prince". (I've also read on a Disney message board he's sometimes referred to as the "Snow Prince" by fans. However, I can't confirm this.) It's kind of the same principle for Cinderella; said character's prince doesn't really have a name but the Disney company, as well as fans, have taken to calling him "Charming". In the Disney Princesses Monopoly Jr. game, Snow White and Cinderella's princes are given these respective names on the playing board.
(By the way, how was the person above able to say something without his/her IP being shown?)
by Wild Mountain Thyme 00:48, 26 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
You have to actively sign your posts on the talk page to have it be shown. If you want to see who entered an unsigned post, you need to check history -- which can be icky if several people have posted. This is why everyone should sign with the tildes. 0:) Goldfritha 01:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)Reply
Ah, OK...this person is a registered Wikipedia user then. I thought they were just a random person leaving a comment, because if that were the case we'd see their IP address. Not that it matters so much to me, I was more or less curious. Thanks!
by Wild Mountain Thyme 04:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC)Reply

The Picture of Dorian Gray is about 6 decades earlier than Cinderella, so even if that movie used the term, it couldn't be the origin of the term in English as the article says now. In fact, the novel may be the origin of the term. Does anybody know that it's not? Wyote 06:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

It was published in 1808

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Nothing now, since I've removed it.  :) Goldfritha 23:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)Reply
Yeah, User:165.29.44.146 added the line (see this diff: [1]), but it's unclear to what work he or she was referring. The previous sentence mentions Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and Cinderella, but all three are fairy tales much older than 1808. —Lowellian (reply) 00:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Semi-protected

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I semi-protected this page against new and unregistered users to fend off any further mentions of "PRINCE CHARMING is also a rockstar known for the popular songs..."PLAYBOY MANSION" and "NASCAR DRIVER"..." - Smerdis of Tlön 13:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Non-Trivial Entry?

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I discovered a movie re-release on DVD recently, entitled "Prince Charming" (2000). This is a TNT (/Warner) production rather than Hollywood, but is entertaining nevertheless, assuming you have no qualms about Christina "Married with Children" Applegate. It is starring Martin Short, Christina, Bernadette Peters, Andrea Martin, Billy Connolly, and Sean Maguire. Although, I've never heard of the "Frog Prince" and "Prince Charming" mixed together in a fable or children's book, the story line makes sense if you can factor in that the frogs in question are well over 500 years old.

I would definitely add this information as another reference to the wiki, just depends on how much you want to dig into it. Send me e-mail if you need more info.

It is a mostly family friendly movie, but there is enough risque, double entendre for someone to raise an eyebrow or two. The copy I received was unrated and pending rating in Canada.

Hendy1964 05:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

Was Prince Carming A Jerk?

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Do you think that Prince Charming wasn't so charming? Do you think his looks got him everywhere? If you have ever read the books called The Sisters Grimm you'd have read that he was a major jerkaholic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (detective31)

Prince "Carming"?

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I changed some instances of "carm*" to "charm*" because I thought they were typos, but now the last sentence in the history section reads:

He was really called prince charming in the book but in the film they changed it to prince charming .

Which doesn't make sense. Was there really a character named "Prince Carming" in the book? And which book? --Ligneus (talk) 08:06, 27 October 2012 (UTC)Reply

Prince Charming in The Picture of Dorian Gray

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I was reading The Picture of Dorian Gray (Oscar Wilde, 1890) and it in Dorian is referred to as "Prince Charming" multiple times by another character. He also explains how she came to name him as such. And the usage of this title seemed a bit odd with how it's used today (e.g. it's used not in a meaning of "I love my my prince charming" but rather as a proper noun "I love prince charming". I figured it might've been an early instance of its usage which led me to this article. And in the history section there doesn't seem to be any literal usage of "prince charming" before this. There is "roi charmant" which probably comes closest. I was just wondering if anyone had looked into this? 2A02:2121:101:DDC5:8970:B57E:E87D:8F67 (talk) 14:44, 16 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

First use

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The article (currently) doesn't say when "Prince Charming" was used: even in French or some other language. First cite in article is 1986. MBG02 (talk) 23:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

[2] says: The term Prince Charming actually originates from an 1889 translation of Le roi Charmant, the Charming King, and then a year later the phrase "Prince Charming" was used in The Picture of Dorian Gray.
Webster's Online says first use in 1855, book not cited.
This might help, but I can't read it [3]
MBG02 (talk) 06:54, 8 January 2024 (UTC)Reply