Talk:San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Cwmhiraeth in topic Did you know
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Article milestones
DateProcessResult
February 22, 2021Good article nomineeListed
May 4, 2021Good topic candidatePromoted
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on March 17, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the song "I Didn't Know", representing San Marino in the Eurovision Song Contest 2016, was written by a composer and a lyricist who had never met each other in person?
Current status: Good article

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 11:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply


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Criteria: 1a. prose ( ) 1b. MoS ( ) 2a. ref layout ( ) 2b. cites WP:RS ( ) 2c. no WP:OR ( ) 2d. no WP:CV ( )
3a. broadness ( ) 3b. focus ( ) 4. neutral ( ) 5. stable ( ) 6a. free or tagged images ( ) 6b. pics relevant ( )
Note: this represents where the article stands relative to the Good Article criteria. Criteria marked   are unassessed

I will review this; hopefully you are successful in your goal to create a GT! --K. Peake 11:17, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Infobox and lead

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  Done

Background

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  • "to the grand final, however in" → "for the grand final; however, in"
  • [1] should be invoked at the end of the para instead of separately for the last two sentences since it backs up both of them
  • Allessandro Capicchioni → Alessandro Capicchioni
  • "By 26 November," → "By 26 November 2015,"

  Done

Before Eurovision

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Internal selection

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  • Target SMRTV to San Marino RTV on the img text
  • "and Sammarinese Head of Delegation Alessandro Capicchioni were" → "and Capicchioni were"
  • The previous compositions are not directly mentioned, though 9 does say the artists have previous experience
  • The Piste Rouge Studios and Guy Waku arrangement are not sourced, even though the city is and the other arranger
Both of the above are in the J. Weaver ESCToday source. I've moved it up to the middle. Grk1011 (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Mention the info about composers not having met from 9
Thanks for pointing this out! Let me know if you approve of the wording. Grk1011 (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

  Done

Song changes

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  • Neither of the sources say anything about the previous version being a ballad so add [15] in this para as well as the other, but target to Sentimental ballad
  • Wikilink disco
  • Remove target on EP
  • Shouldn't you mention it being cut down to a three-minute edit?
  • Wiwibloggs should not be italicised

  Done

Promotion

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  • "presentation on 9 March 2015." → "presentation on 9 March 2016."
  • "was filmed in Paris." → "was filmed in Paris with a team of 37 people." per the source
  • "He appeared on" → "For the tour, he appeared on"
  • Target TVM to Television Malta
  • "On 11 May," → "On 11 May 2016,"
  • Wikilink Hard Rock Cafe
  • Wikilink Stockholm
  • "by fifteen participants of" → "by 15 participants of" per MOS:NUM

  Done

At Eurovision

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  • Remove wikilink on Stockholm
  • You have not added the appropriate ref after the Eurovision rules
  • "from previous contests with" → "from previous contests, with"
  • Target first semi-final to Eurovision Song Contest 2016#Semi-final 1
  • "to perform in position 8," → "to perform in position eight," per MOS:NUM
  • The announcement from Irol MC is not mentioned by [26]

  Done

Semi-final

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  • Img looks good!
  • "on 9 and 10 May." → "on 9 and 10 May 2016."
  • "performing at a microphone stand" the source says he performed at floor level
  • "perform a choreographed routine" → "delivered a choreographed routine"

  Done

Voting

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  • Where is the part about no relation being allowed sourced?
It said "connection", so I changed the wording to be more precise. Grk1011 (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • "and grand final" → "and the grand final"

  Done

Points awarded to San Marino
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  • Good
Points awarded by San Marino
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  • Good
Detailed voting results
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  • [34][33] should be put in numerical order

  Done

References

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  • Copyvio score looks a bit too high at 43.2%; trim the Wiwibloggs quote to fix this
Trimmed the quote. Grk1011 (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
  • Make sure all of these are archived by using the tool
  • Fix MOS:QWQ issues with ref 9

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Final comments and verdict

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I would assume it's because it's a direct quote from the article and a couple sentences long. It's attributed as such, so I believe that is allowed. It's not copying someone's "work". I'll take a look at the rest of the items tomorrow. Grk1011 (talk) 22:12, 20 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Grk1011 Will be great to see your full-on response soon, but I thought I'd issue a statement about the above issue while it's most relevant. WP:OVERQUOTE says, "Do not overquote from sources, that is have too many direct quotations or excerpts that are too long." This is somewhat of an excerpt, so cut the amount of quoting or maybe paraphrase. --K. Peake 07:12, 21 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Should be all set! Let me know if there is anything else that I may have missed. Grk1011 (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Grk1011 I do approve of your wording for the info about them not having met and for future reference, a recommendation from me would be to make sure anything relevant from sources is cited to pass the broadness criterion properly. It is also interesting to see you mark the sections as done separately; nice response method, I would recommend doing that again in the future!  Pass now though, I do not see any further issues! --K. Peake 21:54, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I usually do all of the edits in one sitting so I don't have trouble tracking my progress, but this one required it to be spaced out given my work load. I'll keep that in mind for future reviews! Grk1011 (talk) 21:58, 22 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

Did you know

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk07:30, 13 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Improved to Good Article status by Grk1011 (talk). Self-nominated at 23:51, 22 February 2021 (UTC).Reply

  •  Y Article is long enough (9956 characters), is a GA, nominated in time (became GA on 22 February, nominated same day)
  •  Y Hook is short enough, interested, in the article and well cited
  •  N QPQ not yet done, and the user has 6 previous DYK nominations. Grk1011 as per WP:QPQ, a review of another article is required
  •   Overall, the article and hook are fine, but QPQ required before this nomination can be passed. Joseph2302 (talk) 15:27, 24 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Joseph2302: I've reviewed Washington State Route 539 for QPQ. Grk1011 (talk) 16:57, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Reply