Talk:Three-section staff

Interesting trivia: need confirmation

i've heard that the first weapon Jet Li fought with on film was the 3-section staff. His (supposedly) last martial arts movie, Fearless, has him using the same weapon in the final fight as well.

Interesting if true. When it does get confirmed it should be posted to Jet Li's page with a link here. -Dr Haggis - Talk 19:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Naming

Why is this article under what, as far as I can tell, is the Japanese name for a Chinese weapon?

Same reason Cristoforo de Colombo is Christopher Columbus. It's what the "average joe" thinks the name is (never mind the systemic bias possibilities of this), not the original name. --ColourBurst 19:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

• • But that's an Anglicized name. This name is neither English nor Chinese.

True, but it is more well known under its Japanese name. This is the English Wikipedia, therefore the most common English name takes precedence.--59.121.207.47 06:20, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Source? I would think one of the other names is more well-known. And the "common" names, I think, aren't notable enough to warrant putting one over the other. --Raijinili 02:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Man, no way the japanese name is more well-known than the chinese name. I mean, how many japanese practitioners even heard of this weapon? I think that even if it's not going to be in chinese, it should at least be under "three section staff" or something, as it is also more commonly known than the japanese name. I think a simple google search is enough to prove that the japanese name is not more well known than the chinese name (I just checked, sansetsukon:654 results, sanjiegun:1,020). I'm going to make this redirect to the english name if no-one else does it soon.

There, fixed. I've also taken the liberty of adding "Three-part Staff" as a name as I think this was a widely known variety along with the Triple Staff. I think just the minor edit "in Japanese" and "originally" should do i t as all the English and Japanese translations would have come directly or indirectly from the Chinese name anyway, the Japanese name actually a direct hanzi to kanji translation. There, no more problems, hopefully. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.70.159.214 (talk) 15:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

Adding a video

I think it would be good to add a link to a video of use: (link dead) New link: [1] --Raijinili 23:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Sanguo Zhi vs Sanguo Yanyi

Correction made. "Sanguo Zhi" is the "Records of the Three Kingdoms" by Chen Shou in the 3rd century as a historical text. "Romance of the Three Kingdoms" is actually "Sanguo Yanyi" by Luo Guanzhong in the 14th century as a literary dramatisation inspired by "Sanguo Zhi". Two entirely different texts.

length of the staff

The three section staff's length is described in the following sentence: "The total length of the weapon is greater than that of the short single staff known in Japanese as a bō, about the same as the Chinese staff, the gun, creating a larger circle of available targets around the combatant." This sentence is unclear - is the staff's length greater than that of the bo, and the same as that of the gun, or is is greater than both that of the bo and the gun, which are of the same length? Anyway, it would be more useful if the actual length were written there, and only then compared to the length of related weapons. Unfortunately, I know very little about the subject, so can someone who knows those facts fill them in? 132.68.249.216 22:51, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

It's clear, but it's terribly imprecise. The gùn is not one particular length or shape, despite the incomplete article on the gùn (which describes only one type of staff in any detail). One good thing about the gùn article is that it makes it clear that there are many different kinds of Chinese staves, which will account for different lengths, diameters, and shapes (tapered at one end, straight, etc). The "length" sentence in this article needs to be clarified or removed. —Erik Harris 16:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivial Matters

There was a block about the three-section staff in popular culture. I have removed it. While sometimes these sections can be enlightening or somewhat interesting, this one wasn't. At the same time, it was poorly written and not worth the trouble of a re-write.

Jaloka (talk) 16:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Here is the info from the Trivia section:

The three-section-staff is featured regularly in Chinese martial arts films:

• The 36th Chamber of Shaolin includes a fictionalised account of the creation of the weapon.
• In Heroes of the East, Ah To (Gordon Liu) uses the weapon against his Japanese opponent (Hayato Ryuzaki) who wields nunchaku and a tonfa.
• Lei Kung (Lau Kar Leung) uses a three-section staff against Lei Ying (Lau Kar Wing) in the final fight of Legendary Weapons of China.
• Huo Yuanjia (Jet Li) uses the weapon in a final fight with Japanese budōka Anno Tanaka (Nakamura Shido) in the movie Fearless.

Other appearances in pop culture include:

• In the anime series Bleach, the released form of Ikkaku Madarame's zanpakutō is this type of weapon.

• Video game character Billy Kane fights with a weapon that can be either used as a bō or as a three-section staff, which he can ignite with fire.

• Nanami (the protagonist's foster sister) of Suikoden II uses the Flower Rod, a three-section staff.

• The main protagonist in the video game Suikoden V uses a three-section staff.

• In the comic book series DV8 the character of Sublime use a three-section-staff as her weapon of choice.

• In the KOEI game Dynasty Warriors 6, the character Ling Tong of Wu uses three variations of a three-sectioned staff, named Hurricane, Typhoon, and Cyclone respectively.

• In The Revenge of Shinobi one set of enemies encountered are martial artists wielding three-section staves.

• In the European version of the fighting game Soul Blade the weapon of the character Li Long was changed from nunchaku to a three section staff due to censorship laws. The weapon still, however, looks more like a pair of nunchaku with the chain replaced with a small section of staff

Do not archive. Hopefully someone will try to reincorporate this into the article in paragraph form with citations. And hopefully they will cut down on the amount of info that is not particularly important. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 21:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I for one do consider the popular section to be both fun and useful, as wanting to see more of such fantastic weapon in action, I can check out the different movies and games that depict it. Eclecticwolf (talk) 03:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I only read two lines, and that block is horrible. On the other hand some more attention should be given to the idle stance with this weapon, it isn't as trivial as you might think. Just putting an image into the readers head as to how it might have been used is of a decent enough importance; if not so as the rest of the description makes sense.Aryeonos (talk) 06:32, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

No mention of strangulation techniques

This is the main use of this self defence weapon, you never hold the middle part (thats for your opponent to "use") you can cut circulation real easy if you trap your opponent's nein in the joint, also hands, knees and feet — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.174.39.102 (talk) 19:20, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Mini Three-section staff

Yeah, it's a thing. It seems it is historical weapon. You can see it at 11:25 in [2]. [3] Maybe called three sectional nunchaku 89.201.184.252 (talk) 01:07, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

2 versions ?, article maybe needs a rewrite

According to this: "Nowadays, the 3 section Staff is taught in various Kung Fu and Wushu schools. There is also an Okinawan version of the 3 section staff called a Sansetsukon that is used in Kobudo." there are two versions. How they differ I don't know. 89.201.201.113 (talk) 18:01, 14 November 2020 (UTC)