Talk:Turiya

Question about non-duality

I was introduced to the concept of Turiya by an interview with a man named Ken Wilber. The way he described it (as I understood), was as a non-dual state. That is, as in the deep-sleep state we have pure Consciousness (without any objects), which is much the goal of meditation in many traditions. But if we then have that same "emptiness" through the waking and dream states, there is a union of the formless with the world of form.

I'd be interested to hear any thoughts on this from someone with a more extensive background than I have.. Peace, -David Paxfeline 22:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

In turya only the perception of duality disappears. Perception and even mental activity continues, but it is all different now. Even if images and words still exist in the mind, they are all infused with a state of non-duality. They appear as manifestations of consciousness (cit) and light (prakasa). Thus turya pervades the other states of consciousness, it does not replace them alltogether. You can write to me if you like to talk more. Visarga (talk) 23:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Gaudiya Vaishnavas'(ISKCON, etc.) turn Brahman and turiya into illusions made by Krishna for the monists just to trick them.Domsta333 (talk) 11:44, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

It should be stated that not all Gaudiya Vaishnavians are ISKCON followers. Additionally, as far as my understanding goes, this debate has been going on ever since followers of Adi Shankara (Advaita Vedanta/monism) tried to suppress the Gaudiya Vedanta teachings many centuries ago. I believe that both philosophies have their merits, and that they can co-exist peacefully. Both philosophies describe states of consciousness that I have personally touched upon in meditation, and so I am grateful that descriptions of each exist. I see it as a progression - from dualism (Dvaita) to monism (Advaita) to dyadism (Gaudiya), and not one is superior to the other. One's experience is truly the only criteria for whether one describes the monist state as the Advaitins do, or as the Gaudiyians do. Ultimately it is what one finds within one's own inner experience that is the most important point.--Cminard (talk) 21:51, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Spelling

Could someone who knows whether my assumption that it should not be "turyo" but turiya / Turiya in the second line is correct, please correct it, if it is ? --219.110.233.246 (talk) 07:02, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Saundarya Lahiri

The Saundarya Lahiri, ascribed to Shankara [1] , contains a reference to turyia, in a tantric context. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 08:38, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Deletion of Gaudiya Vaishnavism section by Ms Sarah Welsh

Greetings - please know that I have taken the liberty of notifying Swami B.V. Tripurari personally via my LinkedIn account that you have stated that his writings are not somehow acceptable, and so I have moved the Turiya-Titah section to the main Gaudiya Vaishnaiva article, and will leave it to you to perhaps address this issue with Swami Tripurari directly, as he is considered to be the foremost leading expert in this area in the Western world. Ms. Welsh's exact comment upon the deletion of these two sections was: (remove undue, non-RS websites/SPS, these two sections would be welcome if the content cites reliable sources such as peer reviewed scholarly publications).Cindy Minard (talk) 18:27, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

@Cminard: Please see WP:RS guidelines on sources acceptable in wikipedia. If Tripurari's ideas, or self-published works of his organization, have been mentioned or reviewed in peer-reviewed publications, we can summarize those later publications. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 01:34, 25 March 2017 (UTC)

Gaudiya Vaishnavism section

@83.183.97.132: I have removed the websites/blogs etc content you restored, per WP:RS guidelines. The Manring and Stoler sources are welcome, but you need to identify the page numbers which discusses Turiya. Your cooperation is requested, Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 12:49, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Turiya avastha

The state of Turiya can be experienced, it is very difficult to describe. Indian saint Dnyaneshwar has described this state very well in his book Dnyaneshwari, but only those who have experienced this state will understand this description. 2409:4042:2E2C:2BF9:0:0:7A0B:680E (talk) 16:58, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Turiya and Adi Da

Adi Da Samraj refers to a state that is beyond the three states of waking, dreaming and sleeping 158.247.71.175 (talk) 16:34, 7 September 2024 (UTC)