Talk:Web fiction

WebSerial redirection: add disambiguation?

Currently Webserial redirects to Web Fiction. But now Web Serial API (https://wicg.github.io/serial/) exists which will need its own page probably soon. 88.199.40.162 (talk) 13:03, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

History Missing

Web fiction is predated by usenet fiction serialized in usenet messages. Theme oriented text mode BBS - Buliten Board Systems - had fan fiction too. This predates the internet and is at least from the 1980s if not earlier. Prior to that were photocopied fanzines with fiction stories. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:D591:5F10:51:C194:2471:D8AD (talk) 07:26, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

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I write two Webserials, would it be okay if I linked here?

- Ginja

Unless they're two of the most popular Webserials ever, don't. It will be taken as spam. You can, however, post links to my Talk page if you'd like, and I may take a look at them. :) Runa27 00:52, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Well without any actual examples of the medium the article seems a little pointless.

- Ginja.

• 1.) So find some examples that aren't your own work. If you link your own work, it'll come off as spamming, and will most likely be removed by other editors.

• 2.) The entire article seems pointless? Hardly. Just underdevoleped; there's a difference between that and "pointless", my friend. Additionally, webserials are actually more common and probably more popular than this article implies - for instance, it's one of two preferred formats (the other being a text-format "one-shot" story) for western fan fiction, and there's thousands, perhaps millions of webserial-format fan fiction stories online (I know there's millions of fan fictions online, a large segment of which is hosted on fanfiction.net; the question, however, would be how many of these were "one-shot" stories, which would by their very definition not be a serial, versus how many are serial works, since many archives that boast about the number of stories they have do not differentiate between one-shot and serial works when counting how many stories they host).

In fact, I can't help but feel that there should be mention of it being one of the preferred formats for fan fiction in the west (printed fanzine/manga format is possibly more popular or preferred in the east, especially Japan, where such works are referred to as dôjinshi). I'm going to add that in. And perhaps I'll seek out some popular webserials to add mentions of to the article. Runa27 05:02, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

I originally had several webserials linked here, actually, until a user deleted them saying to keep the links 'informational'. The last draft of this page that still had the external links can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Webserial&oldid=46069226

I think I'm going to add some of them back in, to be entirely honest - whatever comes up high on the Google for webserial. --GlitchBob dbug 15:49, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Pat Powers 06:27, 20 September 2006 (UTC) On my now-defunct website Jolly Roper (www.jollyroper.com) I made about $16,000 over the years 1996-2000 (or so) selling mostly serialized versions of my novels Karg, Siren7, Riverbeast, Jetta 3000 and other stuff (mostly short stories) in chapter-by-chapter installments, charging users a fee to view them. Would that qualify me as a first among web serializers? And would that be useful content for this article, or self-aggrandizement? (I'm going to be actively marketing them as ebooks in a few weeks.) These were not fanfiction, but were erotic novels, though "The Kink Files" and "Just Do Me" short stories would probably qualify as fanfiction.

You can verify the content of my site through the Wayback Machine, and I can prove my income through tax records.

Seeing as the term "webserial" comes up with about 14 million results I removed the sentence that said it came up with less than 1,000 results. Also, there is a massive list of people pointing to their own webserials. That's ridiculous, it's just advertising and it contributes nothing to the article. I'm just going to wipe that if no one minds. Noodle Guy (talk) 19:32, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I just added more history and added footnotes/references...which are the only sources in the whole article! It's a useful article but much of it seems like original research to me due to lack of cites. I could be wrong tho. I also included a couple of external links (that don't belong to me) that seem historically noteworthy. I didn't delete any links, but I am curious as to the rationale for including the three links currently at the bottom of the list. The ones which are just described as "original serial fiction" and don't appear to have any particular noteworthiness. Similarly are the publishers of especial value, do you think? I'm new to Wikipedia so I don't want to be presumptuous and remove too much. SophieTorkleson (talk) 21:50, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Me again. I was surprised by the removal of a link that I believe was the first directory and community devoted to webserials and other web fiction / webisode sites (Epiguide Magazine). I know it's mentioned in articles from 1998 and it is linked on many webserial sites too. I wasn't the one to add this link originally but I do think it belongs here, as it has more history & just as much content as the other two directories AFAICT.

Still not sure about those publisher sites though. What is the rationale for keeping them but not major webserial sites themselves like John Dies in the End (a hugely popular site), Tales of Mu (another massive serial) and Footprints (the longest-running continually published serial)? Just trying to understand the reasoning. SophieTorkleson (talk) 09:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Suggestion: list of english-language web fiction websites

This could be its own article.

I think this article could benefit from a list of popular sites for web fiction. listing name, url, purpose/niche of website, and popularity/unique visitors to the site. That way people can use this as a reference for where to find web fiction. This would only include sites that host web fiction, not people's blogs or whatever. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whyme943 (talk • contribs) 22:05, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia is specifically WP:NOT supposed to be used to make web directories. If you'd like to make such a directory there are services for that, curlie.org is a good one. - MrOllie (talk) 22:07, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: creation of new article / page

I noticed the page: Web novels in South Korea exists.

could we create a new page for Web novels in China? There's a great article that discusses this. https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv9542581/?spm_id_from=333.999.0.0 - I recommend google translating it though, since it's in chinese.

Jsmith v3 (talk) 12:50, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

potential bad sources

i copy-pasted the full source of this page to make a copy as a subpage of my user page because i was having trouble bringing myself to be bold in editing the actual page itself and i got this message when creating it

An automated filter has identified this edit as containing references to one of the following self-publishing companies: AuthorHouse, Trafford Publishing, Edwin Mellen Press, CreateSpace, iUniverse, Lulu.com, Xlibris, or Grosvenor House Publishing. Please be aware that self-published sources may be vanity publishing and rarely meet Wikipedia's standards for reliable sources.

i'm not 100% certain which sources it means but i think it might be the 1998 sideroad one or the 2007 comicspace one i reckon i'm too new and whatnot to really judge if these sources are reliable or not does anybody know if we should maybe remove these or find replacements for them or whatever Believerinmagic (talk) 18:39, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

@Believerinmagic: This looks like a bug in the filter that's generating the warning. It's caused by the link to lulu.com, which isn't a real error because it isn't a citation. You can ignore the warning. Regards, Dan Bloch (talk) 22:33, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Digital Writing

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Giving examples of websites that host this sort of fiction - potentially including major works as well

There are several websites that have, become the vast majority of the reader base of this type of fiction and it seems odd to not mention them due to how much relative traffic these few sites receive. Especially considering how these sites often are getting deals with publishers and the like resulting in actual published works arising from the largest of these sites (web novel, Royal Road, Wattpadd and some works that have moved off these sites are achieving major readership numbers) which makes little sense as they are - in my opinion highly notable. HDHP2 (talk) 13:47, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

It is better not to make lists of such sites or mention them by name. Wikipedia is explicitly not supposed to be a web directory and that is what such mentions inevitably become as people show up and add their favorite site to the list. MrOllie (talk) 20:03, 5 October 2024 (UTC)