Talk:Welcome Back, Kotter

DVD Cover on page

The Television Favorites DVD cover should be placed in the DVD section of the artical, as it is a DVD. A substitute could be a photo of the whole cast or something like that. Shadow the Hedgehog 9:57, 6 August 2007

I agree. ~NeonFire372~ 16:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of theme song lyrics

It is against Wikipedia rules to post non-public domain song lyrics as this is copyright violation, so I have removed the lyrics from the theme song that had been posted here. 23skidoo 04:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, they're back. For historical purposes, song lyrics -can- be reprinted and quoted under Fair Use. Try to remember this next time you decide to edit a Wiki entry, please. --66.90.151.114 05:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

And you try to remember to do research before making unsubstantiated claims. Song lyrics cannot be quoted in their entirety. Read this. A line or two is fine. And if this song were public domain it would be fine. Otherwise fair use cannot and does not apply. I've deleted the copyvio again. 23skidoo 13:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

How about at least a link to John Sebastian. The theme song was also a commercial success and should be given some note. -just some wiki-lover

Why are the above posters so rude and unfriendly? You should both just chill out. You are acting very "un-Kotter like". The song lyrics are easily available to anybody who wants them by Googling "Welcome back Kotter lyrics" at multiple song lyrics websites. The lyrics and song are so cool! I think the USA was much cooler back then than now socially and culturally. Just shows you what 28 years of Reagan, Bush 1 and 2 and a dash of Clinton can do to a country. It's quite sad, actually. The USA is going down the drain thanks to neo-con robber baron policies. Well....at least we can watch Welcome back Kotter on DVD and re-live the cool vibes of the good old days! :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.71.191 (talk) 20:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

That’s all okay now. Donald Trump reunited America, and everyone is like, so cool again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.29.224 (talk) 21:25, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

What station it is now on

Welcome Back, Kotter is now on the i TV network. 7:00-7:30 and 7:30-8:00 Friday nights EST. Shadow the Hedgehog 23 October

The info I have is the Boston affiliate that initially refused to air Kotter aired Space 1999 instead. (154.5.166.187 06:36, 1 March 2007 (UTC))

Catch Phrase

What about Freddy Boom-Boom Washington's use of the word 'handy' accompanied by a charming smile? As in:

Mr. Kotter: Freddy, where's your assignment?

Freddy: My assignment? Yes, Mr. Kotter. I have my assignment. Unfortunately, I don't have it here ... handy ...

• I don't think the characters' catch phrases should be listed at all. Other TV shows' pages don't list catch phrases.125.254.30.66 (talk) 07:59, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

Cast

The cast is named in the beginning and at the end. Isn't this unnecessary?

• agreed </post> Geek45 (talk) 18:42, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Behind the scnes

Oughtn't there be more about the behind the scenes goings on? There was a lot of tension between Kaplan/James Komack, Kaplan/Strassman, battle lines formed on both sides. it's all be en detailed in various E network and TV Land shows...seems that would be more relevant to an encyclopedia entry. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.236.0.66 (talk) 21:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC).

International Airing

In Germany 23 episodes of "Welcome back, Kotter" were shown dubbed, but under its original name - first from September 1979 till May 1980 by the ZDF, then again from April to July 1985 by Sat.1.

It's hard to say what Germans would have made out of the shows premise and characters.

For instance, most Germans would probably understand the name Kotter as something like "crapper". Oh well..

--Philopedia 10:49, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Julie's backstory

Is there a ref for Julie being from Nebraska? I have a strong (albeit 25+-year-old) memory of her saying she was from Montana.Fitfatfighter (talk) 06:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

She is from Nebraska; it's mentioned a lot in various episodes. I took note of this as a kid watching because my father was also from Nebraska. TheBlinkster (talk) 19:53, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Please Sir!

I've never seen Welcome Back, Kotter, but have read several times that it was inspired by or at least related to the UK Series Please Sir!. Has anyone seen both to know if there is anything more to this other than both being comedy shows being set in schools? Mighty Antar (talk) 20:45, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Please Sir!

I've never seen Welcome Back, Kotter, but have read several times that it was inspired by or at least related to the UK TV Series Please Sir! which predates it. Has anyone seen both to know if there is anything more to this other than both being comedy shows set in schools? Mighty Antar (talk) 20:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Racial stereotypes

At 'show history' it relates:

Welcome Back, Kotter's first season was controversial.

• In Boston, the local ABC affiliate (WCVB-TV) initially refused to air the show. The city was going through a tumultuous school busing program to enforce racial 'equality' and the local affiliate felt Kotter's fictional integrated classroom would only add fuel to the fire.

Why would such a thing "only add fuel to the fire"? Because of the negative racial stereotypes of the dumbo students. It was a show of exposing Puerto Ricans, Jews, Blacks, Italian Americans and wogs in general to be buffoons.TheEmbodimentOfResponsibility (talk) 07:47, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Pilot

It says Welcome Back was the pilot, but the first episode aired was before that. Im confused.151.203.24.88 ([[User talk:151.203.24.88|talk

LOL "I'm so confused." Vinne Barbarino

The pilot episode isn't always the first one aired; the network might choose to air other episodes before it. Another notable example of this is Firefly. Regards, Orange Suede Sofa (talk) 21:13, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

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Theme song

Whenever a band or singer donates a known song of theirs to be the title of a show, you people include that band's box on that show's page. What right do you have to not include John Sebastian when his song is as ICONIC as it is?--2601:5C0:4280:3D40:40B4:C59D:3721:A743 (talk) 22:28, 2 June 2017 (UTC)

’Donates’ ? That’s how songwriters make a living? Sebastian was paid, and the song will have belonged to the producers. Even Paul McCartney doesn’t own his own songs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.29.224 (talk) 21:22, 28 June 2022 (UTC)

The navbox is being removed because there is no link to the show in that box, per WP:BIDIRECTIONAL, nor should there be. The song is adequately covered in the article under Welcome Back, Kotter#Theme song, which also links to the song's article, Welcome Back (John Sebastian song). (Note that the song doesn't include "Kotter" in the title.) Also, John Sebastian wrote the song specifically for the show. - BilCat (talk) 23:43, 2 June 2017 (UTC) I just added the show to Sebastian's box, so there. Now I have met that requirement.--2601:5C0:4280:3D40:40B4:C59D:3721:A743 (talk) 03:23, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

See Also

I removed "White Savior". Kotter is a white, but in a predominately white school in a predominately white section of Brooklyn. Further he is returning to his own school, and even his original class. Considering that he only had one regular non-white student until season 4 (2 if you count the half-Jewish/half-Puerto Rican played by an Italian, 3 if you count Vera, Freddie's girlfriend for several episodes) it seems inaccurate.