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Debrett's Peerage source for descent from 6th Earl Howe
edit[For reference, from Dafne Keen's article talk page] There has in the past evidently been some doubt cast on the fact that Dafne Keen is a descendant of the 6th Earl Howe. Dafne Keen is accepted to be daughter of actor Will Keen and Maria Fernandez Ache, whom he married in 2002; Debrett's 2011 (148th ed.), p. 799, in the pedigree of the Earls Howe, in the section detailing descendants of the 6th Earl, clearly shows William Walter Maurice Keen (b. 1970) to have married, in 2002, Maria Fernandez Hernandez ('Ache', it's worth observing, being the Spanish pronunciation of 'H'., presumably the source of her pseudonym), daughter of of Manuel Fernandez Delgado, and their daughter being Dafne Maria, b. 2005. This well-respected source is sufficient in countless other articles, but for some reason not this one? It almost comes across as a concerted effort to keep this information from the article, which is rather strange. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.68.131 (talk) 23:16, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
Keen family and relatives
editThe article on Alice Oswald's poetry collection [1] identifies her brother as 'actor Will Keen' ('Her father is a retired banker, her mother the garden designer Mary Keen, her brother the actor Will Keen.'). The article on Mary Keen [2] (she simply doesn't use her first name of 'Priscilla', which makes sense as it was also her mother's name; as also clearly shown here https://www.npg.org.uk/collections/search/person/mp130975/lady-priscilla-mary-rose-keen-nee-curzon) mentions both Alice Oswald and Laura Beatty as her children: 'Keen lives in Gloucestershire with her husband, Charles, with whom she has four children... My third daughter, Alice [Oswald, the poet]... my daughter Laura [Beatty], who is a writer...' Therefore the three are siblings, and Dafne Keen, Will's daughter, is the niece of Alice Oswald and Laura Beatty.
This all matches up with the Debrett's 2011 pedigree of the Earls Howe, which under descendants of the 6th Earl, gives the full names of all these siblings and their marriages. This firmly- beyond any shadow of a doubt- establishes the identities of all these individuals. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.70.169 (talk) 14:09, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
Deleted sentence
editDeleted the following incomplete, unsourced, and information-lacking sentence: "Terry Prachett's Sky TV Christmas Specials." Need a bit more detail than that (plus better grammar). 70.73.90.119 (talk) 04:59, 9 October 2020 (UTC)