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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter
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Welcome to the Sixth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
Luckily, you all won't have to see my comments very often, as very little I have to say is really that important. But I would like to take the opportunity to say that I hope everyone finds the new General Forum page useful for discussing ideas relevant to Christianity in general, and feels free to make any additional comments regarding general Christianity there. Also, if any of you feel that you want to place a comment here in the future, please let us know what you want included. We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
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Anonymous editor disputing Chinese-ness of southern Chinese
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IP edits from the 122.105.x.x range, which I believe originate from the same person, has been disputing how people from Guangdong and Fujian are not ethnic Chinese and have been victims of some genocide by the northern Chinese, and that present-day Vietnamese are the same and northern Chinese are a different race, ignoring how things have assimilated in the past 1500 years and that China was sustained in the south for a few centuries. You can see Talk:Hoa and look up my edit history to see where he's been for the past month or two disputing everything Chinese. HkCaGu (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
I am open to alternative point of views and don't hold on very tightly to traditional ideas of ethnicity myself. Nonetheless, if its going to be on Wikipedia, it better be verifiable. None of that "very difficult to find and generally not found on the internet reference" routine please. Thanks for the heads up - Bob K18:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
Cut & Paste moves
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Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently copied the contents of a page and pasted it into another with a different name. Specifically, you copied the contents of University of Putra. This is what we call a "cut and paste move", and it is very undesirable because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. The mechanism we use for renaming an article is to move it to a new name which both preserves the page's history and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself by this process, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves to request the move by another. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Same deal with University of Science I'm afraid. Sorry I'm slapping this template on you, but yeah just letting you know that I've tagged the two for a history merge with their respective articles anyway.Chan Yin Keen | UTC14:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Not a problem. I just realised the problem myself. Funny how I never noticed the Move tab until this morning. - Bob K14:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Christianity WikiProject Newsletter - July 2008
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We now have 53 featured articles 6 featured lists, and 130 good articles, with the recent promotions of Thomas Cranmer to FA class, List of encyclicals of Pope John XXIII to FL status, and Hugh de Puiset to GA level. Thanks to all those who worked on these articles!
Welcome to the Eighth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
As many of you will know, we currently have several articles relating to the same basic topics. The articles in the Category:Baptism are one example of such. It is really in the interests of all of us to try to place as much content in the main article of such topics, and then have the other articles "branch off" from there and making the central article as good an article as possible. We also now have a proposal for a new general "Christianity" related award, similar to the Military history project's chevrons, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. John Carter (talk), Lead Coordinator
Newsletter challenge
Last month's new article challenge, Church of Daniel's Band, was begun by User:Jack1956 and was included in the Main page's DYK section on June 15. Thank you to Jack1956 for his great work on creating this article!
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Dear Bob K,
You have been quite free to send numerous messages to me regarding wikipedia rules. I would like to remind your, regarding the wiki for Najib Tun Razak, personal blogs CANNOT be used as source. There have been sufficient explanation regarding this on the talk page, please do proceed to the talk page and indulge in a healthy debate with me if you do feel that citing personal blogs is in line with wikipedia's policy on the biography for living people. Thank you.
I have not been involved in editing the article on Najib Tun Razak. Don't see why I should get involved. Moreover, you left this message unsigned. Not sure who you are. Most of the warning messages I've left today were for anonymous users vandalising the article on Anwar Ibrahim (see history). You saying you're the one? - Bob K | Talk18:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Whether it is done in good faith or not, that is another matter altogether. The article on Malaysia's Deputy Prime Minister MUST have credible sources, otherwise you might cause wikipedia trouble. This paragraph should be removed, until those who wish to insert this paragraph have 'high quality sources'. This subject here should only revolve upon its authenticity, not me. Those who wish to protect this article from edits should protect it without that paragraph. Wikipedia might face legal action from the Deputy Prime Minister Office or the Government of Malaysia if that article remain, with its authenticity in doubt.60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, just because you think I am biased, that does not mean that you are allowed to publish facts with unreliable sources. The person who put in that article did it in bad faith, as he is trying to smear Najib's name by citing personal blog's as a source. THAT IS NOT RIGHT. I am biased, fine, ban me. That paragraph does not cite a credible source, remove it.
I am feeling you are biased as well, you, as well, prefer to smear Najib's name by publishing 'facts' from unreliable sources. That is against wikipedia's policy. Either you do nothing, or ban me, and remove that paragraph. You can't have the cake and eat it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
There are procedures in Wikipedia regarding disputed facts and the disputed section has been tagged appropriately. IMHO, I found only 1 sentence and 1 paragraph in the section that would be questionable. The rest seemed quite well cited. - - Bob K | Talk19:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The whole paragraph is rotten. Nothing in that paragraph is well cited, and that paragraph even calls Najib and his followers terrorist. Wikipedia is definitely going to hear soon from the DPM's office. hell, I have said this a million times, personal blogs CANNOT be used as a source, no matter how true or untrue a fact is. What a sad case, the anti-Najib brigade is on wikipedia. 60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
And the use of Yang Berbontot isn't? Anyway, the section has been re-written to state only the facts with the citations improved upon. Whether or not blogs can be used as a source or otherwise, WP:SPS has some guidelines. I do agree that the tone of the section was overwhelmingly POV, hence the edit. Nonetheless, not everywhere is like Malaysia. Politicians cannot force unflattering opinions of them to be suppressed just because they don't like it. - Bob K | Talk19:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
let me quote Self-published books, zines, websites, and blogs should never be used as a source for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the article (see below). "Self-published blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
The point is moot. The section has been amended with citations to reliable sources and POV opinions exorcised. - Bob K | Talk19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Template:Politics of Malaysia
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I've edited the template box according to the structure of the federal and state governments from what I studied in Sixth Form. Is there anything you'd like to comment on the changes I made? - Myinuk (talk) 02:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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Thank you for welcoming me. About my contribution on the talk page of the article about Nee: I was only reacting to text already put there by others who were discussing the subject matter. Watch-WikiTalk23:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Malaysian ringgit
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Hi!
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Thanks for your effort on List of schools in Malaysia. I had just noticed the existence of this page.
I think if a group of Wikipedians work together, this can be easily splitted. If you are interested in this, please sign your name at User:Mark Chung/School Project Members.
I'll then plan further steps. Thank you.
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Okay, since you are the only one who responded for A FEW WEEKS, I think my only hope is you. Notify me when you're ready and we'll start editing in no time. Thanks.--Mark Chung (talk) 03:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Invitation to Contribute
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Hi fellow Malaysians! Please note that I have created a article entitled Kuala Terengganu by-election, 2009 for the coming by-election on 17 January, 2008. I would appreciate if Malaysians Wikipedians out there lend a hand and contribute to the article. Regards. Roman888 (talk) 17:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - April 2009
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The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 65 FAs, 7 FLs, and 146 GAs. That is a wonderful number, particularly of the GAs. Thanks to all those who worked on these articles!
Secisek was interviewed by the Wikipedia Signpost in their 9 March 2009 issue here. Thank you for your great work in getting more attention to the project!
Member news
Our membership continues to expand. We are currently at a stunning 278 registered members. A profound thank you to all of you. Without your support and work, this project, and wikipedia itself, would not exist.
Other news
We have recently started a separate subpage of the project dedicated to keeping the members informed of the latest activities regarding FA and GA status, requests for peer review and comment, proposed deletions, and other article related activity. That information can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Article alerts. Please feel free to look at the page frequently and respond to any and all items posted there that you wish.
Related projects news
The Iglesia ni Cristo work group, Syriac Christianity work group, and Oriental Orthodoxy project are all currently being considered for restructuring. Any and all members of any of those groups are welcomed and encouraged to take part in the discussions.
Welcome to the Seventh, admittedly delayed, issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
Yes, it's been more than a bit of a rough time for some of us, okay, me, for a while here. Several things, most of them not real pleasant, kept coming up. I think most of that is over with know. I hope and pray as much anyway. Easter is the church's time of rebirth, and I hope it's a good time for the rebirth of this newsletter. I hope that the project grows in numbers and effectiveness as the church itself has over the years. Thanks again for all your efforts to date. Oh, yes, and please note that this section is entitled "From the Members". That means you, all of you. If any of you have any comments you'd like to share with the other members in this section, please feel free to let us know, and we'll put them in the next issue. We would encourage all members to get more involved and if you are wondering what with, please ask. Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. Thanks again.
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Martin Bucer up for Featured Article Review
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The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 68 FAs, 7 FLs, and 146 GAs, which includes 3 more FAs. We did however lose one FL and 2 GAs over the past month, but we still basically broke even with the 3 new FAs.
Member news
With the additions of cindyrom4jesus at 69.254.33.66, User:Jwhosler, and User:Arverniking, we now have 281 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members!
Welcome to the Eighth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
Hello from the new Christian films task force! I was recently apart of founding a task force, so this is the story. For several months, I would not only contribute to Christian films, groups, etc., but I'd also see other users working on similar articles. I really wanted to create a project for us to work from. Filmcom contacted me about trying to get a task force going, so we began working together on it. When it appeared the idea was dying, we continued to fight, and several other users joined!
Thanks to the efforts of many users, I'd like to introduce you to the Christian films task force! We are currently having a bot tag all Christian film-related articles, and we are working to define our project scope. We now have our own icon and shortcut (WP:CFTF), with ten users signed out thus far - these are just some of the things that have been happening in the last few days. If you have any interest in joining such a project, we welcome everyone to join and get involved.
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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - June 2009
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The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 72 FAs, 6 FLs, and 145 GAs, which includes 4 more FAs. We did however lose one FL and 1 GAs over the past month, but we still gained overall.
The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute.
Member contest of the month
Given the lateness of the newsletter last month, the contest from last month continues. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of June will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month.
Welcome to the Ninth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
I am in the process of going through the various categories related to Christianity. I am finding that several of them may not have sufficient number of members to continue. By the end of the month, I hope to have the main category list finished (yeah, it might take that long, it's huge). At that time, I think we will review all the categories and see which may not have sufficient articles to continue. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page.
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PASOK
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The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 76 FAs, 8 FLs, and 148 GAs. We gained new recognized content in each field, with 4 FAs promoted, 2 FLs, and 3 GAs. Congratulations and a big thank you to all those who worked on these articles!
I am still working on the categorization matter. With any luck, we should have some results by the end of the month. There are also some discussions regarding project related activities at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. One issue in particular that might be addressed is possible elections of new coordinators. Anyone interested in serving in such a capacity is more than welcome to indicate as much.
Related projects news
The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute.
Member contest of the month
The previous contests are still ongoing, because of the extreme amount of time the categorization is taking me. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of July will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month.
Welcome to the Tenth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do.
It has been a long time since the last coordinators election. There is a lot for people to do, and I certainly would welcome seeing any individuals with an interest in such a position put themselves forward as candidates. I in particular would very much like to see some degree of "specialization" in the coordinators, so that, for instance, we might have someone knowledgable about some of the specific Christian faith traditions or other main subjects, like Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, art, theology, and so on. If any parties who have experience with some of our faith- or- subject-based content would be interested in being candidates, I would love to see them do so. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page.
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