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Proposed deletion of Jhoanna (singer)

The article Jhoanna (singer) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:BANDMEMBER; all references reference her membership to Bini (group), clearly not demonstrating "individual notability".

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Howard the Duck (talk) 05:12, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

For the record, will moving this to draft save data already collected? I'd just like to have some kind of insurance. Borgenland (talk) 05:16, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Notifying

Hi @Borgenland! I'm here to remind to you (if you don't mind) to respond on your created article to Jhoanna (singer).

If you don't know how you will respond, you can see what I explained in summary (update history) on Maloi (singer) and Colet (singer). (kinda messed up on typos on Colet and probably to Maloi too but still understand what I point)

Thank you! Royiswariii (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I would have also opposed but I had asked for a grace period from Howard before so as courtesy I went along with draftify. Borgenland (talk) 09:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

I agree to you, I believe that all of BINI members deserve a separate article just like Jhoanna. Given their solo projects and activities outside of BINI, it makes sense of highlights their individual contributions and achievements. The P-pop are expanding and they need a individual articles.Royiswariii (talk) 09:41, 23 August 2024 (UTC)

Notice

Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Maria Clara at Ibarra. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Hotwiki (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

2nd warning

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Maria Clara at Ibarra, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Hotwiki (talk) 18:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Biafra Referendum

Kindly help on the timeline section of the article. I know you always help. Latest update Wår (talk) 08:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Possibility of improvement to article

Hi! From what I saw you can be interested in contributing to: Article: Alexa Ilacad. I am a beginning editor and don't speak Filipino, but I think you can help. Link: Article:Alexa_Ilacad

--Luhanopi (talk) 10:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Finished making the necessary fixes. See my edit summaries for issues in the article. Borgenland (talk) 13:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Luhanopi (talk) 15:45, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

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PD-NWS Violations Update #2 (Key To Read Third Section)

I am providing members of the WikiProject of Weather along with users who frequently edit weather-related articles an new update (2nd update) to the discussions regarding the PD-NWS image copyright template.

On the Commons, an RFC discussion is taking place to figure out how to manage the template. No "formal" administrative-style rules have occurred, so nothing has changed. That is not a surprise as the RFC is still ongoing.

What is new?

• The entire Template:PD-NWS has been placed inside a "License Review" template, which is viewable via the link aforementioned.
• Most of the photographs which were uploaded to the Commons originally under the PD-NWS template (approximately 1,500) have been reviewed. Out of those ~1,500 images, only about 150 are requiring additional looks. Most images have been verified as free-to-use and switched to a respective, valid template.
• As of this moment, approximately 50 photos have been nominated for deletion (results pending).
• A handful of images have been deleted (either confirmed copyrighted or under the Commons precautionary principle.
• One image has been kept following a deletion request under the PD-NWS template.

How to deal with new photos?

Given all of this, you might be wondering how the heck you use weather photos while creating articles? Well, here is what you can do!

• If the photo was made by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (excluding NWS), You can upload it under the PD-NOAA template via {{PD-NOAA}}.
• If the photo was made by the National Weather Service (NOT Third Party), you can upload it using the new PD-NWS-employee template via {{PD-USGov-NWS-employee}}.
  • If the photo originates on the Damage Assessment Toolkit, you can upload it using the PD-DAT template via {{PD-DAT}}.
• If the photo is from a U.S. NEXRAD radar, you can upload it using the PD-NEXRAD template via via {{PD-NEXRAD}}.

What about third-party photos?

In the case of third-party photos...i.e. ones not taken by the National Weather Service themselves...there is an option which was discussed and confirmed to be valid from an English Wikipedia Administrator.

• KEY: Third party images of tornadoes & weather-related content can potentially be uploaded via Wikipedia's Non-Free Content Guidelines!
• Experiments/testing has been done already! In fact, I bet you couldn't tell the difference, but the tornado photograph used at the top of the 2011 Joplin tornado was already switched to a Non-Free File (NFF)! Check it out: File:Photograph of the 2011 Joplin tornado.jpeg! That photo's description can also be used as a template for future third-party tornado photographs uploaded to Wikipedia...with their respective information replaced.
• NFFs can be uploaded to multiple articles as well!
• The absolute key aspect of NFFs is that they relate to the article and are not decoration. For example with the Joplin tornado, the photograph: (1) shows the size of the tornado, (2) shows the "wall of darkness", which was described by witnesses, (3) shows a historic, non-repeatable event of the deadliest tornado in modern U.S. history. The exact reasoning does not have to be extremely specific as Wikipedia's NFF guidelines "is one of the most generous in the world" (words of Rlandmann (not pinged), the administrator reviewing all the PD-NWS template images).
• Tornado photographs will almost certainly qualify under the NFF guidelines, especially for tornadoes with standalone articles or standalone sections.
• NFFs cannot be used when a free-photograph is available, no matter the quality, unless the section is about that specific photograph. For example, the photograph used at the top of the 2013 Moore tornado article is confirmed to be free-to-use, therefore, no NFFs of that tornado can be uploaded on Wikipedia. However, the "Dead Man Walking" photograph could almost certainly be uploaded as an NFF to the 1997 Jarrell tornado article as that photograph is the topic of a section in the article.
• NFFs currently on Wikipedia can and should be placed in this category: Category:Non-free pictures of tornadoes.

Update Closing

Hopefully all of that information kept you informed on the Commons copyright discussion process and how you can still create the best articles possible! If you have a question about something mentioned above, reply back and I will do my best to answer it! Also, ping me in the process to ensure I see it! Have a good day! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 01:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

ITN recognition for 2024 Kamchatka Mil Mi-8 crash

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2024 Kamchatka Mil Mi-8 crash

Thank you, Borgenland! I've created an article and you have significantly contributed to it and now, its appearance is now on the main page. Thank you very much for contributing! Hacked (Talk|Contribs) 02:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Appreciate this highly. Looking forward to the next endeavors with you and other constructive users. Borgenland (talk) 02:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Mauricio Arriaza Chicas

Please review the template's documentation, this template {{recent death}} is not for newly created articles. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 16:07, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Apologies, I didn't quickly find out that it was new. Borgenland (talk) 16:09, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Not a problem, mostly page author's adding it to advertise their new article. :P - FlightTime (open channel) 16:12, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

2024 Georgian parliamentary election

Hi, there are various discussions going on the talk page of 2024 parliamentary election. Since you are active on the article it will be good to hear your input as well. Zlad! (talk) 23:15, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

National Cultural Treasures in the Philippines

Hello Borgenland. I just edited out the page on the List of National Cultural Treasures. I would like to know why? I updated the page based on the available resources found in the Annual reports of the National museum of the Philippines. I also added pictures which was not excessive in my opinion as I just followed the template set forth by the page. Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 08:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

One of your recent edits seems to have broken the table. So as a precaution, I removed it until it can be safely restored. Please do read also MOS:PHILIPPINES for your captions. Borgenland (talk) 08:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I see. Can I do something about it? What needs fixing? Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 09:59, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I think something went wrong in file size, while some of the captions need to be fixed grammatically. Borgenland (talk) 10:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I think I fixed the file size issue. Can you check it out if it is resolved? Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 10:22, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

It still looks quite off in mobile. Will check in desktop later. Borgenland (talk) 10:32, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I ran the edit again and I think your recent edits may run afoul of copyvio per [1]. Suggest you rewrite or revert your writing before you get flagged down by more hawkish editors. Will send you a standard warning later. Borgenland (talk) 12:58, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

You've tagged the article for WP:REVDEL, you're going to have to identify in which revision the copyvio first appeared before anyone can deal with it. Nthep (talk) 20:50, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

I don't quite understand which part I added merits a copyright violation. I only added information from a government report and pictures already uploaded in wikimedia commons. Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 03:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Did you copy ad verbatim from the source? Borgenland (talk) 04:32, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

Not really, I just put the declared names in the page. Johnpaulo5860 (talk) 13:37, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Anyway see the prevailing consensus in Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines regarding this matter for now. Borgenland (talk) 15:18, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

Philippines and Fraternities

Hello, my handle is User:Naraht and I'm a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities. I'm an alumnus of Alpha Phi Omega in the US and my experience with Alpha Phi Omega in the Philippines has made me the project expert on Fraternities and Sororities in the Philippines. *shudder*. I find the degree of chaos in the Fraternity and Sorority system makes referencing them somewhat difficult. Do you have any advice on references? I think most of what are good references are GMA Network, Philippine Star, Philippine Daily Inquirer, Philstar, the Daily Tribune and ABS-CBN.

Additionally, trying to count chapters can be a nightmare for some of the general fraternities (Alpha Kappa Rho & Tau Gamma Phi/Sigma), any suggestions? (I've got a decent handle on Alpha Phi Omega mostly because I'm on some facebook groups whose information leads me to decent refs)Naraht (talk) 18:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello! Your choice of references are right. They are 2 of the country’s biggest media network’s and some of the leading newspapers of record. You might also want to see Rappler, one of the most critical and analytic outlets founded by a Nobel laureate. Az for your chapters I’m also not sure since I’m strictly here for my country and crime projexts. Borgenland (talk) 01:43, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

thanks, forgot about Rappler, I've used them on some articles as well, including, I think the hazing article. Still surprised on how many hazing deaths for Tau Gamma Phi recently. Naraht (talk) 21:34, 15 September 2024 (UTC)

It's a running gag. A lot of faux groups and parody items like to copy off the Tau Gamma name. Although lately it's been Epsilon which has been receiving bad press. Borgenland (talk) 01:31, 16 September 2024 (UTC)

User:Naraht I'm sorry I meant Upsilon Sigma Phi. It's not much as hazing but for things better left unsaid. See [2] and [3]. Borgenland (talk) 09:17, 18 September 2024 (UTC)

Epsilon? And I wonder what groups were being spoofed by Batch '81. I presume Alpha Kappa Rho (Skeptron) and Alpha Phi Omega? Note Alpha Phi Omega Philippines is *fully* recognized by Alpha Phi Omega USA. Now nobody in APO-USA national leadership wants the Oblation run in the US, and even within the bounds of RA8049 are things that would make them unhappy, but fully recognized.

WP:EASTEREGG

Regarding your link to WP:EASTEREGG in edit summaries such as this and this, those pipes don't really fall under WP:EASTEREGG because the target is pretty clear from the text.
A better edit summary would be "no need to pipe", or something of that nature. The Mountain of Eden (talk) 18:04, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

I thought it was the same. Thanks tho for the tip. Borgenland (talk) 18:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)

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Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present)

Can you help to remove WP:RECENTISM violation and summarise August 2024 and September 2024 sections of Israel–Hezbollah conflict (2023–present). You can remove any unnecessary content added by me. Pachu Kannan (talk) 09:29, 20 September 2024 (UTC)

Apologies for the late reply, I am stingy on reverts lately in the article due to 1RR but the previous advice on Israel-Hamas War also applies here. Also suggest you find definite news articles rather than liveblogs to minimize the risks of excessive weight and having to resort to long-winded quotes. Borgenland (talk) 08:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

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Philippine Wikimedia Kapihan Network

Hello. Just a question. Are you a member of the FB group of WP:TAMBAYAN, known as "Philippine Wikimedia Kapihan Network"? If not yet, you may want to join the group (though still it's in your discretion if you prefer to join or not). JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 04:45, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Not yet but I will think over it. Borgenland (talk) 09:42, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Request

Hello.

In the 2024 Hezbollah headquarters strike article, can you actually display the specific bomb Mark 84 bomb with its name, which has been obscured in the Wikilink under the label "2,000-pound bombs", when the other bunker buster bombs like BLU-109 bomb are displayed with their names in the article?

(Also, if units have to be displayed, both the metric and imperial units must be displayed in Wikipedia articles, not one or the other. 95% of the world population use only the metric system.)

Thank you. Oirattas (talk) 14:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I am more of a political rather than a technical editor though. Borgenland (talk) 14:37, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the reply. It is not at all a difficult technical or a controversial political issue, I requested. Only the simple removal of the general label "2,000-pound bombs" covering the specific Wikilink Mark 84 bomb. Different types of bunker buster bombs can have that same weight. Because the article is protected, I cannot do it. Oirattas (talk) 14:45, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

List of terrorist incidents involving railway systems

Hi, I would like to clarify that the 2019 Yuen Long Attack in Hong Kong was not a terrorist incident; rather, it was a riot stemming from the 2019 Hong Kong Extradition Bill. The mobs involved in the attack were convicted of rioting but not of any terrorism-related offences. Below are some news articles for your reference:

https://hongkongfp.com/2024/04/05/hong-kong-accountant-found-guilty-of-rioting-after-yuen-long-mob-attack-in-2019/

https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/4/192740/Man-arrested-three-years-after-Yuen-Long-mob-attack,-to-appear-in-court

In addition, the HKSAR Government has legislation regarding terrorism, which is specified in Cap.575 United Nations (Anti-Terrorism Measures) Ordinance. Below is the content of the ordinance:

https://www.elegislation.gov.hk/hk/cap575

As such, the attack was not a terrorist incident and it should not be included on the list. HelenRForeman (talk) 01:25, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

The attack has been included in the article for as long as I can remember and I reiterate that only a consensus of the editors in the list’s talk page can remove the entry. Not a decision of the HK government. Borgenland (talk) 01:46, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I have expressed my views on the list's talk page, but I have not received any replies from the other editors. Aside from the fact that the incident is not related to terrorism, the number of dead and injured shown on the page is also incorrect, as there were no fatalities. If there are no objections from the other editors, I will remove the incident from the list. HelenRForeman (talk) 02:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

The lack of replies may not necessarily signify support for your proposition. And the faulty casualty list does not imply reason alone for the entry to be removed. Borgenland (talk) 10:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)

Older typhoon seasons

As a result of a message on my talk page. Me and Hurricanehink are trying to get people to help make older typhoon season articles. As you are a major contributor in recent typhoon articles, and other major typhoon articles, I think you might be interested in tackling this. Thanks, 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗 04:10, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

I have sources on some notable typhoons from 1946 to 1998. Will check the relevant years. 05:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC) Borgenland (talk) 05:00, 2 October 2024 (UTC)

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Father of All Bombs

Thanks for removing that junk. It’s just likely a close up of a KAB-3000. I just can’t imagine such a weapon being deployed from anything short of a cargo plane. Jjmclellan82 (talk) 11:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

It's more of sourcing for me per WP:NEWSWEEK. The article also said it wasn't the first time Russia claimed to have dropped a KAB in Ukraine. Borgenland (talk) 11:12, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

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List of explosions

I don't understand why you remove explosions from Poland, having sources and being relevant. For example the explosion in Gdansk in 1995 with 22 dead or Świebodzice in 2017 with 6 dead, among others. However, for example, explosions in Italy that are not very relevant or similar in deaths are still included. List of explosions DWD2007 (talk) 14:38, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I carried out a cleanup of the page when it became bloated with entries of dubious notability, not just in Poland per WP:INDISCRIMINATE. For the second revert, you inserted poorly-sourced articles with utter disregard of WP:WINARS. For your latest entry, I did not remove anything but noticed that you do not take into account the grammatical style prevalent throughout the article, particularly having to bludgeon the name Poland when the flagicon suffices and inserting redundant death tolls. Borgenland (talk) 14:43, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I also recall you inserted a deliberate attack. But then again if you want to have these addressed, you should try to gain more opinions and/or consensus in the talk page. Borgenland (talk) 14:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to do better, thanks for the answer. DWD2007 (talk) 14:46, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

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Thanks! This is an unfolding event so I hope there are no duplicate articles that could complicate matters. Borgenland (talk) 14:59, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Terrorism

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With all due respect, wasn’t the creation of WP Terrorism supposed to mean it was already a separate topic in itself? Borgenland (talk) 17:39, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes it was originally, but since 19 October WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography/Terrorism task force is a task of WikiProject Crime and Criminal Biography. There was a discussion on the talk page about this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:44, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Andriy Kostin (That's the Way It Goes)

Thanks for your edit on Andriy Kostin! Much appreciated it is, but unfortunately not entirely correct. Kostin will be serving as Prosecutor General of Ukraine until the parliament of Ukraine will dismiss him. The fact that he tended in his resignation on 22 October 2024 does not mean he immediately left the post. This is the way it goes in Ukraine; I know it goes different in other countries, so I understand your train of thought. I hope this was the first time your train of thought was wrong. — Yulia Romero • Talk to me! 17:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

I understand the Verkhovna Rada ultimately decides on things. I’m just waiting for the approval to amend the info. Borgenland (talk) 00:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

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Draft:Typhoon Angela

Hey! Would you be interested in helping me expand this draft, on Typhoon Angela? Tavantius (talk) 16:35, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I think it would be better for you to merge content in the draft into the main space to avoid duplication and possible AFD. Borgenland (talk) 16:40, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

I was thinking of requesting a history merge after this new draft is finished. Tavantius (talk) 16:46, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

Anyways, assuming that you are not a resident of this country, you need to double-check veracity as I have noted serious geographical errors that I have removed. Borgenland (talk) 16:47, 15 November 2024 (UTC)

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