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  • Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
  • Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.
  • Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

Mauryan Empire

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Your input would be welcome with regard to the 'holes-map'. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 15:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

@Fowler&fowler Why haven't you posted anything yet, Its 14th Edasf (talk) 16:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I said "Thursday," and that day of the week has barely begun where I am right now. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, my bad because the day is ending where I am. Edasf (talk) 16:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
:) No problem. Hopefully in the next couple of hours.
Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Network-model map

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Hi. I'm reworking your sources for the network-model map into a note, to have less text in the lead. Knowing your responses, I thought it wise to inform you personally, so you know that nothing starine or outlandish is going on. I really appreciate your network-model map, and this is an effort to make it even more accessible and understandable. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 09:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

No idea what I meant with "starine"... I say it again: this network-model map is great. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I found a work-around for the notes-errors; I'm going to implant it later. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 07:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for efn [a]. Fabulous work, @Joshua Jonathan:. My compliments to the chef Fowler&fowler«Talk» 16:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Joshua Jonathan: No problemo, Amigo. Starine == L'Etarine, which was the title of Albert Camus's famous novel before the typos were taken out Fowler&fowler«Talk» 14:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Mauryan Map

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The arguments in the main article are very bulky.

As you are one of the only or if not the only editors (right now in the argument), whos supporting the hole map.

I would like to know what sources you have based it on, it would be good if you could link ALL sources mentioning this.


Now I don't want vague sources ("Mauryan empire was a loose knit empire), I want coherent sources exciplity mentioning the areas with holes and maybe some maps by scholars.

Thank you. JingJongPascal (talk) 12:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've said what I had to on the article's talk page. The map of the loose-knit empire, with large autonomous regions, based on major introductory textbooks, see WP:TERTIARY for their role in due weight. It is Wikpedia policy. All of them, the same ones that are used in Wikipedia's oldest country featured article, support that map. They are listed in the map caption's footnote. The realistic map has been in the Maurya Empire article for going on four years. This is all I am going to say here, and for the last time. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Because as per Romila, the "autonomous regions" 's resources were still exploited by the Mauryans. - Romila Early India
And also WP:OTHEARTICLE, but Macedonian Empire which controlled only major cities and routes does not have holes? JingJongPascal (talk) 13:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Please don't post here again. The article's talk is the proper venue. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 13:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Fowler&fowler, you just reverted my edits.
Could you provide me source that mentions The scripts by Chankaya as exxgration?
Also while reverting my edits you also reverted some of my edits which were not related to that manuscript. JingJongPascal (talk) 10:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've added them. The Arthasastra was discovered in the early 20th century. Nationalist historians of the time, treated it as gospel truth about the conditions prevailing in the Maurya realm. It is now considered to be prescriptive work (rather than objective history), composed some five centuries after the Mauryas. The last sentence of the first lead paragraph lays it bare. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Okay, maybe we could still add them but add lines that say they are exxagerated same way in Parthian Empire we have JingJongPascal (talk) 11:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
The extensive notes in the first sentence of the lead (on sources) say just that. There is no reason to explicitly state it in the lead; the notes, which anyone can read are adequate in my view. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm reworking the lead. Please give me a day or two. I've noted your concerns. I'll try to weave them in somewhere. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
I understand and thanks. JingJongPascal (talk) 14:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Mauryan notes

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Hi F&f. I'm going through the references & notes you added. When you copied back the sentence on the sources for the Mauryan Empire to the lead, you also duplicated the extensive references. Since they are named, the name of the reference suffices; I have removed the quotes from the lead, but don't worry, they show up, because they are also in the History#Sources-subsection. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply

Shall I wait untill you're finished? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 11:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, maybe. If you can hold on until tomorrow, it will be great. I'd like to get through the economy and the impact. Thanks. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 11:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Also working on Seleucid–Mauryan War; the interpretation of the ancient sources on the ceded territories is quite ambiguous; it seems to me, reading several sources, that Gedrosia refers only to a part of Gedrosia; and probably only the South Asian part just west of the Indus. I'm fine-tuning and expanding the info on that, including a note; when it's finished, I'll also copy it to the Mauryan Empire, as it nuances the 'Iranian territories' considerably. Regards, Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 12:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)Reply