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Role-playing game (video games)

A long time ago, you flagged the Role-playing game (video games) article as in need of help. Or, more specifically, you said that the Computer role-playing game and Console role-playing game genres probably needed a merge. There's some resistance to a merge, on the basis that computer and console RPGs are distinct. The magnitude of this distinction is disputed, but it's been this way for so long. With no consensus, the articles are left alone.

I've began to import information from the two CRPG articles into the main Role-playing game (video games) article. I hope to keep improving this article. In the slightly longer term, I'd like to start cleaning up the two CRPG articles for information that is redundant with the main article on RPG video games. I don't know that this will end up building the case for a merge. But if there are more similarities between the two types of CRPGs than there are differences, then the two CRPG articles will shrink drastically and the main RPG video games article will grow.

I'd appreciate your help. Right now, a few of us are working on the Role-playing game (video games) article. Please check in and do some copy-editing, if you find a moment. Randomran (talk) 17:34, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

How do you think the articles can be merged? I'm trying to build the case for a merge now. The main Role-playing game (video games) article has already expanded to take on all information that's relevant to electronic role-playing games in general. The next step, IMO, is shortening the CRPG articles based on what's redundant with the main article. I believe we can shorten the CRPG articles bit by bit, slowly, over the course of a few weeks or months. In a few months they may be short enough to be merged together into Cultural differences in role-playing video games. What do you think, or do you have a better idea? Randomran (talk) 16:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

PS... if you'd like to help, you could do one of the two following easy things. (1) give Role-playing game (video games) a quick copy-edit, just to help establish a consensus that this isn't a disambiguation page. (2) Delete the lists of developers in the computer role-playing game or console role-playing game articles (or both). I'll back you up if you do. I think these are both trivial detail, and shouldn't be included by wikipedia standards. That will help shorten the articles and build the case for an eventual merge. Randomran (talk) 16:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

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Platform Game

Regardless of the self-esteem with which you hold yourself to, all users of Wikipedia are equal. I take it that you're also the anon IP that keeps reintroducing the errors into the page. So I will request that YOU stop, given that YOU are inserting things into the article that have no sourcing- examples being Super Mario Bros. being the first smooth scrolling platformer and the "reintroduction" of analog sticks by Nintendo (which were already dicussed before you decided to create edits to the page. Don't vandalize the page please. 76.28.138.83 (talk) 04:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Bleah, I'm too tired to argue . I hope you can find this compromise acceptable. It retains your version of the first part of the article segment (so that you don't have to worry about "horrible grammar") while at the same time eliminating the unsourced segments, replacing them with language that is much clearer. 76.28.138.83 (talk) 16:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I had to revert you again, since the changes you made introduced inaccuracies to the article. I DO contest the factuality of the edits, hence why I made them the way they were. We'll start with Super Mario Brothers. The game was NOT the first smooth scrolling platformer game, by the very standards we judge a platformer. Namely, the game level has to smoothly scroll along with the player, the game must feature platforms to jump onto, and hazards to jump over. While I cannot with all certainly say what was the FIRST, I can say that I have definitive proof that smooth scrolling platform games of that type did exist prior to SMB, namely in the 1983 game called Snokie. This video of Snokie's gameplay clearly shows all the elements of platforming- hazards to jump over, smooth scrolling, and platforms as well. It's a platformer, pre-SMB. That's why the article was phrased the way it was. While SMB wasn't the first smooth scrolling 2D platformer, it established the POPULARITY of the genre and caused that popularity to explode onto the market. It's the same reason why we herald Ford, for instance, or Super Mario 64. As for the analog stick statement, the same thing is true. Nintendo didn't originate the analog stick, and in fact, Sony had introduced analog stick controllers as far back as 1995, with announced plans to further create more. This is why the Dual Analog featured a so-called "Flightstick mode"- because the technology was identical, merely with a different range of motion. Because the technology developed parallel alongside the growth of three-dimensional gameplay, to simply attribute one company with analog stick development would be inaccurate. The way the article was before gave the impression that Nintendo created the stick and everybody followed suit, which simply isn't the case. The way the article is now, as I have edited it, creates parity- it treats all parties equally and with due respect. It allows for the establishment that, yes, SMB was the first popular smooth scrolling platforming game and made the genre popular (even though they weren't the FIRST platformer), and it also establishes the importance of the analog stick without giving undue attribution to any one company. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.138.83 (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello to both of you. It was me who initially made a decision about Snokie on the Super Mario Brothers page, and I'm replying here. I think that you both need to calm down and quit editing, for the moment, since you're both fast approaching the 3RR limit. Now, look, Frogacuda, it seems to me that, regardless of what platform that a game was on, we cannot reasonably ignore the innovations that was brought to a genre by it. I am fairly convinced that Snokie is a legitimate example of a 2D platformer, since it bears all the hallmarks of the genre. Furthermore, back in the day the line between "console" and "computer" was a bit of a blue- hence why the original NES was called the "Family Computer" in its day. I think it's a bit inappropriate to dismiss the things that were said with such undue haste, in any event. Cool down, both of you. -- Daniel Davis 23:05, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I've seen Jump Bug, yes, although in all honesty I think it stretches the limits of the genre term. The rv was simply to keep the article 3RR free, in all honesty, not to get myself embroiled in an argument about historical gaming. Just work things out between you two is all I'm saying. Now that neither of you are going to be revving back and forth, maybe some good discussion can come forward. -- Daniel Davis 23:21, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

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Block for sockpuppetry and block evasion

Frogacuda, using sockpuppets to evade a block is a more serious transgression than the three-revert rule. I'm now blocking you for 48 hours. Unless you want a lengthier ban from Wikipedia, I really suggest you start abiding by community guidelines. Babajobu (talk) 02:13, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

As I said before, my last revert wasn't a revert at all, it was restoring information with sourcing in an attempt to build a more complete article. It was then followed with further revisions and edits to help bring it up to the appropriate standard. I understand wiki's guidelines, I have written GA articles before, and I was trying to help an article that was, frankly, a mess at the moment without simply hacking and slashing it to bits. I wasn't trying to start a revert war, and I feel you made an error in labeling my last edit as a revert. Furthermore, this isn't a sockpuppet account, it's the only account I've ever used for five years, and I think it's clear I was trying to make constructive edits.

Frogacuda (talk) 02:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

The problem with your last edit was not that it was a revert. It was that you were using a logged-in account to evade the block on your IP address. Babajobu (talk) 02:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I mean the last edit I made without logging in. i.e. the "third revert" that you deemed worthy of the initial block. That was an error, it wasn't a revert, it was a partial restoration of removed material with added sources. This is why I asked you before that edit to be patient for a few minutes while I further refined my next revision. It was a large chunk of information and I wanted to do it as a few edits, as I did after I logged in.Frogacuda (talk) 02:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

It was a readdition of virtually all the material that had been removed, which is a revert. And I had already advised you twice that you needed to discuss your desired changes on the article talk page rather than simply reinserting them. And as I'll repeat again now, this is a biographical article of a living person who is currently in the news. Such articles require special care, mass insertion of unsourced info is not acceptable. Your last edit was better, but it was done using a logged-in account to evade the block on your IP. After your block has expired, you are welcome to return to the article, and to edit more responsibly. Thank you. Babajobu (talk) 02:41, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

I just asked for a few minutes of patience so I could do it as a few edits, rather than one mass edit in order to make it easier to track changes. This involved putting much of the restored material back and removing and reshuffling it in a few passes. Which I think is appropriate for a medium designed around peer review. I asked for a few minutes patience and good faith, which hardly seems like flaunting the community standard. This is counterproductive to the goal of building a better articleFrogacuda (talk) 02:48, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

One last time, please discuss changes on the talk page before making disputed edits to the article. We'll take this up again in 48 hours. Babajobu (talk) 02:50, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Initial reason for anonymous account was erroneous, third revert was not a revert. Furthermore "sockpuppet" account is not a sockpuppet, it is my only account.Frogacuda (talk) 02:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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While this may be your only account, it looks as though you were blocked as an IP editor for edit warring, then logged into this account to continue the edit war. This is block evasion. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:34, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

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Kickstarter list

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It's easier to keep the list of ongoing drives in date order. That way, all the one at the top of the list has to do is beat the current top 10 which is how I could safely add a new one. Later drives have to beat any above them in the list too. --Peter cohen (talk) 14:04, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

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When adding categories always use the alphabetical order

--Niemti (talk) 13:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Visual Novel vs Japanese Adventure

The "Visual Novel" section uses a common misnomer that all Japanese Adventure games are Visual Novels. This is not the case. Games like Snatcher, Phantasy Star Adventure, etc are not Visual Novels, and it's not accurate to generalize them as such. I think this section should be changed to "Japanese Adventure" with some effort made to distinguish the genres.Frogacuda (talk) 14:48, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I advise you to stop pushing any and all original research and unsourced/unsourceable content

Kindly. --Niemti (talk) 20:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I sourced it quite clearly on the talk page, where these disputes are meant to be resolved. Please do not continue to vandalize the page with information that I have disproven using strong sources. Thank you. Frogacuda (talk) 21:00, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Just as you wanted it to be, "reported away". --Niemti (talk) 22:16, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Isometric

Hi Frogacuda,

You may be 100% correct about the usage of Isometric in video games. You definitely understand the terms very well (in many cases better than I). What you or I know isn't really the issue though. There are several articles from gaming sources which are considered reliable sources which refer to the game isometric. Without some other source saying that is incorrect (or a source in general talking about video games and what you say is a misnomer of isometric being applied to Wasteland 2 and other games), it cannot be changed. Its considered original research and synthesis. Caidh (talk) 22:17, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Who says I'm helping Niemti? I don't know him/her. My issue here is the removal of cited content without replacement citation that is from a reliable source which is also accurate. If you have an issue with Niemti then take it up with Administrators. It has nothing to do with my involvement here.Caidh (talk) 22:29, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Now, you've got "reported away" and all, I've got a very good question for you

Are you going to accept how indeed no one cares for any kind of original research and unsourceable (reliable sources only) content on Wikipedia? Y/N (and choose wisely). --Niemti (talk) 23:17, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

You can't possibly expect me to believe your goal is to be persuasive, here... You're trolling, and you have no interest in the quality of veracity of the article you're working on. I can look at your history and see you've made quite a habit of this. 23:21, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

February 2013

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be engaged in an edit war with one or more editors according to your reverts at Wasteland 2. Although repeatedly reverting or undoing another editor's contributions may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, and often creates animosity between editors. Instead of edit warring, please try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Unwarranted comments

I'm not taking sides in your content dispute with Niemti, but you're not going to win any support from anyone making comments like this. If you're going to convince people of your argument, I'd stick to strictly discussing the topic, and not resorts to cheap shots like that. If you lower yourself to that sort of commentary and attidude, no one's going to hear you out. Sergecross73 msg me 01:39, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Of course you're right, my apologies. It's been a long and frustrating battle with this one, and I'm eager just to have it officially resolved and over with, regardless of the outcome.Frogacuda (talk) 02:33, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

It's fine, I've had to deal with him plenty of times, so I know what you mean, (in fact, that's part of why I made the comment.) Sergecross73 msg me 03:19, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

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