User talk:Megalibrarygirl/Archives/2018/October

Welcome to the Months of African Cinema!

Greetings!

The AfroCine Project welcomes you to October, the first out of the two months which has been dedicated to improving contents that centre around the cinema of Africa, the Caribbean, and the diaspora.

This is a global online edit-a-thon, which is happening in at least 5 language editions of Wikipedia, including the English Wikipedia! Join us in this exciting venture, by helping to create or expand articles which are connected to this scope. Also remember to list your name under the participants section, if you haven't done so already.

On English Wikipedia, we would be recognizing Users who are able to achieve the following:

• Overall winner (1st, 2nd, 3rd places)
• Country Winners
• Diversity winner
• High quality contributors
• Gender-gap fillers
• Page improvers
• Wikidata Translators

For further information about the contest, the recognition categories and how to participate, please visit the contest page here. For further inquiries, please leave comments on the contest talkpage or on the main project talkpage. See you around :).--Jamie Tubers (talk) 22:50, 03 October 2018 (UTC)

Commas

Hi, Mlg - question about the following sentence: Prior to the 2010 referendum, the Netherlands Antilles, comprising the islands of Curaçao, Bonaire, St. Eustatius, St. Maarten and Saba, were governed as.... - I'm thinking drop the comma after Antilles. Your thoughts? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 15:50, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Why not brackets around "comprising" and "Saba" instead? Just a thought. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:33, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Ritchie - like this: "Prior to the 2010 referendum, the Netherlands Antilles (comprising the islands of Curaçao, Bonaire, St. Eustatius, St. Maarten and Saba) were governed as...." ??? ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 20:39, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

@Atsme: I think you're right about dropping the comma. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 20:41, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, like that Atsme. It means anyone who already knows or isn't bothered about what makes up the Antilles can skip that bit. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:44, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

Get ready for November with Women in Red!

		Three new topics for WiR's online editathons in November, two of them supporting other initiatives New: Religion Deceased politicians Asia Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative
		Latest headlines, news, and views on the Women in Red talkpage (Join the conversation!): WikiProject AfroCine launches (To subscribe: Women in Red/English language mailing list and Women in Red/international list. Unsubscribe: Women in Red/Opt-out list)

--Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:40, 14 October 2018 (UTC) via MassMessaging

First adminship anniversary

Wishing Megalibrarygirl a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Chris Troutman (talk) 03:19, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hip, Hip, Hooray!!Coolabahapple (talk) 14:40, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Chris troutman and Coolabahapple! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:52, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Delsorting lists

Hi, MLG - I just added this AfD to the TP of WikiProject Women and WikiProject Women’s sport, but don’t have a clue as to what other WP projects may have an interest in this, do you? Also, what can I do when reviewing articles in the relative queues for NPP & AfC to make sure delsorting notices go to the relevant projects as needed? I’m already adding project banners to the TP headers. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 16:35, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Atsme! I think maybe WikiProject Ice Hockey might be interested--but I'm not sure if field hockey and ice hockey overlap in interest. :( Perhaps listing them with their countries and associated WP projects might help, too. I think if the talk pages have the correct TP banners, they should show up at the WikiProject's notices. Sometimes it seems to take a day or so to show up. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:58, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Oh, ok - so I probably should read the actual project pages. Northamerica1000 is among the most thorough when it comes to posting notes to AfDs and delsorting but he’s been busy in RL. It’s not something I do often, so I tend to forget the process. Once it sticks in my feeble brain, it’s there for life but that’s also how long it might take before it sticks. 😁 ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 17:06, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Lol, Atsme, you are lucky! If I don't keep up with a skill, I feel that I lose it over time and have to relearn it! :P Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:07, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Template:Woman's club movement, and List of women's club buildings

Hi, hey I don't understand the syntax of the Template:Woman's club movement which you developed, and I just messed it up a bit with my attempt to add List of women's club buildings there. I hope you could perhaps fix it?

Part of the issue is where to put mention of the buildings list. Frankly I don't really like the fact that the list got renamed to be about buildings. I think I created it as a List of women's clubs. Like there are many lists of churches, where we don't distinguish between churches as buildings vs. churches as congregations. I think it would be better to have one list of women's clubs, where some of the linked items will be defunct ones where just a building survives, some will be defunct clubs where there is no building, some will be ongoing current clubs with or without notable buildings.

The current Template:Woman's club movement overlaps somewhat with the list, but the template omits numerous notable women's clubs that are redlinks in the list. --Doncram (talk) 19:01, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

P.S. BTW User:WomenArtistUpdates pointed me to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Clubwomen and I added the NRHP redlink ones there, I trust that is okay/good. --Doncram (talk) 00:19, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Doncram I'm really sorry I missed this post until now. I'm really glad you added the list. If you see any place where the template can be improved, please feel free. I agree with you about the list name. I'll take a look and see what I can do. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:11, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.14 21 October 2018

Chart of the New Pages Patrol backlog for the past 6 months.

Hello Megalibrarygirl/Archives/2018, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!

Backlog

As of 21 October 2018, there are 3650 unreviewed articles and the backlog now stretches back 51 days.

Community Wishlist Proposal

• There is currently an ongoing discussion regarding the drafting of a Community Wishlist Proposal for the purpose of requesting bug fixes and missing/useful features to be added to the New Page Feed and Curation Toolbar.
• Please join the conversation as we only have until 29 October to draft this proposal!

Project updates

• ORES predictions are now built-in to the feed. These automatically predict the class of an article as well as whether it may be spam, vandalism, or an attack page, and can be filtered by these criteria now allowing reviewers to better target articles that they prefer to review.
• There are now tools being tested to automatically detect copyright violations in the feed. This detector may not be accurate all the time, though, so it shouldn't be relied on 100% and will only start working on new revisions to pages, not older pages in the backlog.

New scripts

• User:Enterprisey/cv-revdel.js^(info) — A new script created for quickly placing {{copyvio-revdel}} on a page.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings. — Insertcleverphrasehere ^{(or here)} 20:49, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

request for research assistance

invitation to an exhibition at the Woman’s Art Club of Cincinnati

Dear MLG, In anticipation of the October focus on Clubwomen I hope you might have some time to help me find some secondary sources for two Women's Clubs.

The first is the Woman’s Art Club of Cincinnati for which I can only find a primary source on the history. If it is the oldest existing women’s art club operating without interruption in the United States, there might be something, somewhere.

The second is the Palette Club (of Chicago). This is a woman's art club founded around the turn of the century. Its name is so similar to The Palette and Chisel Club that I am having a hard time researching it. The Palette and Chisel Club does have a page on Wikipedia, but it isn't the all-woman's club I would like to write about.

If you have a chance to look into either of these clubs, I would really appreciate it. No rush...we have all of October.

Thanks for looking into this and please do not hesitate to let me know if your schedule won't accommodate this.

Best, WAU WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 15:21, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

@WomenArtistUpdates: I am so sorry that I missed this post. I'll see what I can dig up for you. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:08, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

MLG, Thanks. Only as time permits. I realize you have a lot on your plate. I'm finding plenty to do for meetup 94 :) WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 17:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Comment

Hi Sue, Rosie put me in touch with you. Here is a link to the 1000 Women in Religion Project. • https://parliamentofreligions.org/parliament/womens-task-force/1000-women-religion-project. We have a list of over 1000 women in religion. We have checked through half the list for the presence of an article on Wikipedia. To this date we have 500 names of women in religion that we know are not on Wikipedia. We have well over 500 more to sort through. We have the full list and the list we have already checked through in two different excel spread sheets. We are hoping that this list can be on Wikipedia. Thank you for your assistance.--Dzingle1 (talk) 14:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

@Dzingle1: I'll comb through the list and see if I can find some good references for the names to ensure that the participants will have an easier go of things. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:11, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Oops, Dzingle1 can you send me your list of 500? I can't remember if we have a redlist already. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:13, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl, Do you want me to post it here or should I send it via email? Dzingle1 (talk) 16:06, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Dzingle1 if you already have made a Wiki page share it here, otherwise, send to me via email and I can work on setting up the redlists for you. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:04, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

Megalibrarygirl, I am, as you know, in the process of learning all the ins and outs of Wikipedia. I do not believe I have made a Wiki page. Although I have been responding to so many helpful comments, that may have happened somewhere along the way. We do have a meet up page for the Parliament of World Religions event. Here is the link. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Meetup/98. I will send the link to the list tonight. I am so grateful for your help. Dzingle1 (talk) 22:41, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

@Dzingle1: no worries! I'll help you get set up with the redlist. As I mentioned in my recent email, I can either add the names to our current list: Women in Religion or make a new list for the project. Let me know which works best. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:29, 24 October 2018 (UTC)

Question

Does anybody watch/monitor/participate in Wikipedia:WikiProject Women's sport? I announced an AfD on the TP a while back. ^{Atsme✍🏻📧} 14:04, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

I tend not to watch Women in sports, Atsme, just because I don't get into sports. I occasionally work on sports articles, though, so I do run into them on AfD. You may want to post the question on the WiR talk page. There's a few very active participants in Women's sport articles and they may have some good input. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

RfC on which you !voted, has been amended

In response to objections, I struck the two year moratorium thing at Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(people)#RfC:_Amendment_for_BIO_to_address_systemic_bias_in_the_base_of_sources. I'm notifying everybody who !voted. Jytdog (talk) 14:37, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Jytdog. I appreciate you working so hard on this issue, too. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:31, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Renee Powell

On 29 October 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Renee Powell, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Renee Powell was the first female golfer to compete in a British men's tournament? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Renee Powell. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Renee Powell), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

👻👽💀🎃

Trick or Treat!!!	Happy Halloween!
	Why are demons and ghouls always together? Because demons are a ghoul's best friend. What happens when you goose a ghost? You get a hand full of sheet. Atsme✍🏻📧 00:57, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

LOL! Atsme thank you for bringing treats to my page! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:02, 29 October 2018 (UTC)

Women in computing

Thanks very much, Sue, for the extensive development work you have been doing on Women in computing and on Timeline of women in computing. You have certainly made enormous improvements to both. While I realize that developments in computer technology have stemmed first and foremost from the United States, I wonder whether it would be worthwhile including more women from Europe and Asia who are recognized as having pioneered significant developments in their own countries. One of the problems is that female computer scientists are recognized under rather different terms in other languages. These include, for example, French: informaticienne, German: Informatikerin, Danish: Datalog. If and when I have time, I'll try to add women who are considered to have been pioneers or significant contributors in their own countries. This might also provide a basis for creating or adding to redlists. In this connection, it might be useful to create country categories for the non-Americans now included in Category:Women computer scientists and listing them under Category:Women computer scientists by nationality. I'll see what I can do for a few European countries for a start. Ultimately, it would be useful to have a List of women in computing, or separate lists by country. But that would be quite a task! Never a dull day...--Ipigott (talk) 11:03, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

Ipigott Thank you so much! Also, I'm really glad you brought up the importance of including women from other countries. I'm really trying and that's what's bogged me down so much this month (among other things in RL). I'm so glad that you can help me out. I was beginning to get frustrated. Not only are women written out of computer history, so they're hard to find, but also I didn't know about the other terms in different languages. Because there's a high rate of women in South Asia going in computer science, I think they should be easier to find, but maybe there's a different term for the field there, too. I agree that eventually, there is enough information to split by country, but this is huge because it's not been undertaken by enough of us on Wiki. I've also been dismayed that articles about computer science and programming leave out many women who lead in the field or who made innovations. I've slowly been adding to those, too, but it's also a monumental task. I must keep reminding myself the journey of a 1,000 steps... Megalibrarygirl (talk) 13:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I've been creating lists by country. You can see them all under Category:Women computer scientists by nationality. Tomorrow I can begin including some of them in the timeline.--Ipigott (talk) 14:02, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

This is awesome, Ipigott thank you for your help. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:35, 26 October 2018 (UTC)

I think I've just about finished working on the national categories for the time being. I assume nearly all of those left in Category:Women computer scientists are Americans. I've added a handful of names to the timeline but could add more if excellence at the national level is deemed important. It also looks to me as if coverage of woman computer scientists outside the major English-speaking countries is still pretty poor. Maybe we should initiate a Women in Red focus on them soon. And while I'm here, I'd be interested to know how you are dealing with the Women in Religion redlist for November. Have you received anything in connection with the "Parliament" event on 3 November?--Ipigott (talk) 12:50, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

I've just seen from the Wikidata redlist of computer scientists that there seem to be quite a few pioneers we could include on the timeline even if they do not yet have articles on the English Wikipedia.--Ipigott (talk) 13:03, 27 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for helping me with this, Ipigott! I want to add more to the articles and also to accompanying articles such as Human computers. The fact that women are left out so much of this on Wikipedia is terrible. I really appreciate your help. As for the Parliament event, I have a list of names they're looking at. I've started Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Religion 1000 and I'm checking to see if the person on their list is likely notable before adding a redlink. It's taking me a little bit of time and all day yesterday I didn't have time to work on it. :( I should be able to add some today. I've started at the bottom of the list for no particular reason. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)