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Guianan Creole

Hello LeGuyanaisPure. I have noticed that you have moved this page many, many times. Why have you not inserted any reliable sources (WP:RS) to justify your move for the name? Judging by your frequent moves, I have my doubts if you even know which demonym is most acceptable between, guianan and guyanese. Well just my personal input, I believe "Guianan" is correct also. I justifiy this reasoning based on Antillais in French that translates to Antillean in English opposed to "Antillese" (although it is actually used also, just not common). However, even my reasoning has to be supported by reliable sources. The language's official idenfier code is GCR and defined as "Guianese Creole French." (Although "French" in the name is usually dropped these days for article names, especially where there are no other creole languages spoken in a specific country, unlike Grenadian Creole, which has both an English and French-based creoles eventually I will split that page into two, Grenadian Creole English and Grenadian Creole French). I would like to hear your feedback in regards to the Guianan article. Savvyjack23 (talk) 09:41, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Also is this a page in error you created: Guianan Creole init ? Savvyjack23 (talk) 09:47, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

For example, you cannot make edits like this one: [1] without a reliable source or swap name spellings when there is a source behind it such as [2]. In this edit it talks about the origins of the name "Guyana", not Guiana. A reliable source other than the one used must be filled to support your edit. This source is now out of place and doesn't support the spelling of "Guiana."

Also keep in mind, generally unexplained content removal especially one that is backed by sources can be controversial such as this edit: [3] Your edit may have been warranted, but an explanation for your edit would be best in this type of scenario.

I am simply trying to minimize any hardships you may have moving forward, so please adhere to my advice. Besides, we need some more native Guianans to stick around a bit longer here . Je parler français aussi si vous préférez. Mon objectif principal est l'Haïti et l'Amérique française. Savvyjack23 (talk) 10:05, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Evertype, it would have been nicer to point our friend LeGuyanaisPure to the right direction in regards to licensing photos (which he had taken himself) and his eagarness to upstart a Guianan Wikipedia. Don't know how he came across your page in the first place, but your user page does say you have some sort of proficiency in French and well, he voiced a concern to you in French. Afterall, you are a 13-year vet at this thing aren't you? A little chivalry, especially towards new users, goes a long way; don't think anyone was trying to troll you. I'll help you with all your concerns LeGuyanaisPure; do message me whenever. Savvyjack23 (talk) 10:43, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I am not an expert on Wikipedia image deletionism, though I suffer from it enough. This guy asks twice on my page if he can pose a question, then poses something totally not my area. Then later my page gets attacked, either by this guy or by somebody masquerading as him. You can go look at the history if you wish. I don't have time for that sort of thing. -- Evertype·✆ 18:04, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry Evertype, my goal was not to Harass you, Sincerely ! LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 23:44, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

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Kaseko

You keep adding that Surinamese variant of Kaseko is imported from French Guiana. Where is your source from that? French Guiana Kaseko has nothing in common with the Surinamese Kaseko, besides the name. It is totally different, and came from the Surinamese Kawina genre fused with european, american styles. Not with French Guiana kaseko. I am not making it look like it is only a Surinamese genre, but you are making things up and make it look like it is the same genre and “imported”. Even in the article itself, it is all about the known Surinamese version. So where is your source that Surinamese went to French Guiana and imported it from there? Boxingx2 (talk) 20:20, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

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@BilCat:, why u change again the name of the language Guianan Creole, because this is the official name in French Guiana in English, not "French Guianese Creole" ???!

LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 00:18, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Because English Wikipedia uses the most common name in English, which is not always the "official" name. - BilCat (talk) 00:22, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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OMG, but in French Guiana and in France, in Suriname and Guyana, nobody use this name, so what we do ?!

So we let peoples who go on Wikipedia get used to the old name used or change it with the official name that is used in French Guiana, France, Suriname and Guyana ??? LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 00:31, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

You can open a Move discussion on Talk:French Guianese Creole to propose a move to Guianan Creole, and you cite reliable published sources that "Guianan Creole" is the most common name for the language in the English language worldwide. - BilCat (talk) 00:38, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Your editing of this article is tendentious, and may lead to you being blocked. Rather than continually trying to change the article please discuss on the talk page. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:46, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

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En-wiki and fr-wiki guidelines

I responded in detail to your question at my talk page. But I thought this list of a few core policies at en-wiki and fr-wiki (and others) might help you:

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This is only a partial, very selective list, which I use for my own purposes, but I thought it might help you. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 22:08, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Purpose and principles of Wikipedia

There may be a conflict in your stated purpose here, and the purpose of Wikipedia. Something you wrote on my Talk page prompted me to want to review with you the fundamentals of Wikipedia, including what Wikipedia is, and what its basic principles are. In discussing what image to use in an article about French Guiana, you wrote:

This isn’t just changing the picture of an article for me. It’s improving the perception of my birthplace. When you live in one of the most despising region in France, just because your region is situated in the Amazon rainforest. It ain’t funny for us ! This why I created my account on French Wikipedia in 2015 and see what I can do to at least improve the image of French Guiana not only in France but in the entire world.

But this is problematic, as it appears to be contrary to the purpose and principles of Wikipedia. Let's review the basic principles of Wikipedia: you can find these at Wikipedia:Five pillars, pillars one and two:

• WP:5P1: Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. There are many things that Wikipedia is not: in particular, "Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion": or a platform for advocacy or propaganda of any kind: including nationalistic propaganda.
• WP:5P2: Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view: we strive for "an impartial tone"; "we describe multiple points of view, presenting each accurately and in context rather than as 'the truth' or 'the best view' ". "All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources. ... Editors' personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong on Wikipedia".

Please read this carefully, and review the WP:Five Pillars. I hope I'm interpreting your statement incorrectly, because as I understand it, your stated purpose here seems incompatible with the purpose of Wikipedia. I don't mean to be harsh, but if that is so, then you should either stop editing Wikipedia entirely, limit your editing to other topics, or change your purpose here. I see no other alternative for you.

When editing, you must remain neutral, which means providing an accurate view about issues regarding French Guiana, as evidenced by what the majority of reliable sources say, as well as representing significant minority views. You may not attempt to present a rosy view of French Guiana, and you are not allowed to "improv[e] the perception of [your] birthplace" in a non-neutral manner; this is contrary to the First and Second Pillars of Wikipedia.

If your purpose is to "at least improve the image of French Guiana not only in France but in the entire world", then you are not here for the right reason, which is to build a reliable, neutral, online encyclopedia.

You now have a serious decision to make: how do you wish to proceed? I think these are your options:

1. remain at Wikipedia, but voluntarily stop editing all articles related to French Guiana.
2. spend some time away from Wikipedia, read up on the fundamentals, starting with the WP:Five Pillars, and drill down from there, rethinking what your purpose here is; then come back with a new vision about your mission here and start fresh.
3. stop editing Wikipedia.

Unless I'm missing something, I don't see any other option for you. If I were you, I'd pick #1 above, as the best way forward. If you pick none of the above, but decide to remain here and edit articles about French Guiana in a non-neutral manner, you will eventually be blocked from editing.

(Note that simply leaving English Wikipedia and continuing a goal of advocacy at French Wikipedia won't work either; the fundamentals of French Wikipedia are the same as here: see fr:Wikipédia:Principes fondateurs. So if you stop advocating for French Guiana here, but continue at fr-wiki, they will eventually figure it out and block you there.) I'm sorry if this all comes as a shock, but it's better if you be aware of this sooner, rather than later. You now need to do some serious thinking about why you are here, and how you plan to proceed. As always, I'm here to help in any way, if I can. Best regards, Mathglot (talk) 19:03, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

You definitely misunderstood my message ! I wrote at a certain moment that the fact that I’m from French Guiana ! Doesn’t give me any right to own or edit any article about this region here on Wikipedia as you previously made me understand even I already knew it. Yet I was expressing how much I like and I’m passionate about what I’m doing here and the importance behind my contribution here. And that I don’t forget to keep a neutral tone while editing on En or Fr Wikipedia… Hope you get my point !

Here some articles I have created : Tell me if you think the tone is neutral or not :

fr:Auxence Contout

fr:Bal paré-masqué

fr:Dokonon

fr:Folklore guyanais

fr:Liste des îles de Guyane

fr:Liste de personnalités de Guyane

fr:Littérature guyanaise

fr:Musique guyanaise PouLagwiyann (talk) 03:12, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I'll take your word for it that I misunderstood you. It's fine to be passionate and enjoy it, that's great. Please understand that whether the articles you listed above are completely neutral, or highly non-neutral might be an issue at French Wikipedia, but don't matter for our purposes here at English Wikipedia. But since you asked me to have a look, I'll try to get to them, but it won't be right away. Thanks for your reply. Mathglot (talk) 09:17, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

I had a look at fr:Liste de personnalités de Guyane and it's WP:NEUTRAL because it is a list, so that one, at least, is fine. You could translate that one into English for en-wiki, although again, our standards may be higher that at fr-wiki, so please review the guideline at WP:SAL, and feel free to ask questions at the talk page (WT:SAL) if you have questions. In my opinion, one thing to keep in mind, if you do decide to translate it, is your selection criteria; see how other list articles do this, before deciding on how you will. Also, there's the question of whether to include names that do not have their own article on en-wiki, that is, their name would show up as WP:RED LINKs at en-wiki; I think this might be okay, as long as: 1) the topic is WP:Notable, 2) the article exists on fr-wiki, and 3) you use template {{ill}}, so that even though there will be a red link for the English link, the interlink to fr-wiki will be blue, and point to a live article. If in doubt, ask at WT:SAL. By the way, I was familiar with one name on that list: Félix Éboué, who made an important contribution to the success of the Free French in World War II. Oh, and Taubira, of course. Mathglot (talk) 06:43, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

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