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Possible assistance on The Last of Us Part II article

Hello Rhain. I understand that Wikipedia invites everyone to be bold, and likewise your response may be to propose I do this, but I felt that your extensive re-write of the Reception section for Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (as part of a wider revision for the article) some months ago was very well done, and as a result I was wondering if you might consider at all spending some time when you can on re-working the Critical response section for The Last of Us Part II? As it stands, the majority of it needs a complete re-work as much of the praise and criticism focuses on just the story and is split around 50/50, for what has been seen as an acclaimed title, and consequently lacks balance, depth, and opinions on all features of the game. I'm sorry if I come across as brazen asking this of you and of course admins are under no obligation to cater to other editor's needs, but I hope my request will still be acknowledged nonetheless. Thanks. Wikibenboy94 (talk) 16:59, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi Wikibenboy94, I appreciate the kind words about my previous work. I've actually been doing some offline work related to The Last of Us Part II over the last few weeks, but it's mostly related to development; I've been a little hesitant to touch the Critical response section until things settled down. It seems like we're finally starting to get to that stage, so I'd be happy to take a look and try to make some improvements where I can. – Rhain ☔ 21:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)

I've just seen your edits Rhain, thank you, it's much appreciated! A comprehensive reception section should also now help settle some of the discourse that has arisen recently on the talk page with regards to accurately illustrating the overall reception the game received. Wikibenboy94 (talk) 16:54, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Appreciate the kind words, Wikibenboy94, and glad I could help! – Rhain ☔ 22:56, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

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new order

At first I thought it was sequel too but it is actually a partial reboot. For example the old blood is a retelling of RtCW. The game also shares some degree of continuity with wolfenstein 3d. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metin karasu (talk • contribs) 19:09, 14 July 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Metin karasu (talk • contribs)

My edit on Trevor Philips

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Precious

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Red Dead Series

Hello there. I would like to know how my sources were unreliable. The videos I linked showed "Red Dead Revolver" characters being mentioned in "Red Dead Redemption". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.14.244 (talk) 03:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

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Zoe Saldana signature

Hey Rhain, I was wondering where you found Saldana's signature. Thanks! ~ HAL333 20:09, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi HAL333, the signature was sourced from the open letter by the Guardians of the Galaxy cast regarding James Gunn’s dismissal: [1]. – Rhain ☔ 12:01, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok, that seems perfectly fine. I'm guessing you know abot the discussion at Talk:Zoe Saldana. ~ HAL333 13:39, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

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Hi there. I see that the description on this page says remaster. But many sources refer to it as a remake. I think the game has enough improvements to be called as such. What's the real difference between remaster and remake? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galagahunt (talk • contribs) 13:30, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

@Galagahunt: Most reliable sources—including the developer—refer to it as a "remaster". I personally think that "remake" is more accurate, but we must follow what the sources say, and not base information on our own opinions. – Rhain ☔ 13:35, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

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Possible assistance on the Super Mario Bros. 35 article

Essay time! Woohoo?

I bolded what's important if you don't want to read.

When I saw that the Super Mario Bros. 35 article was uncomfortably short, I decided for the rest of the week, it'd be my goal to improve it. I got a lot of progress on it, with other people coming in and out to do some fixes. Around half-way through the week, I was invited to join the Nintendo Task Force, which was an honor, even if it labels me as even bigger of a nerd. Coming to Friday, woke up at 5:30 for some reason, I saw 2,000 characters have been removed. I assumed it was vandalism, and went to check to see what it was, and saw that (most of) my progress has been removed. (This is not a passive aggressive hate comment, stay with me.)

Me being awaken at 5:30 in the morning and without coffee, I thought you were just some jerk that overly followed the rules and can't have anything nice in the world, yady-yada, etc. But 5 minutes later, I'd like to thank you. It really does come down to be more professional, with improper citation removed and excessive wording cut. I was just shocked by how stub-like it was. I did a lot of writing on it and in the back of my head, was wondering why nobody was fixing anything I did. I knew there was room for improvement, but everyone thought it was fine, so I just kept goin'.

So thanks for the refresh of it, but now I'm stumped. I don't know where to begin to continue on a more big brain level than before. Then I thought, he has SO many checkmarks, maybe he can help? I know you already did your part and cut the fat, but can you help re-expand on the new big brain level? Maybe give me some pointers on what it needs fixing, and I can go out, maybe extend my time limit to fix it? Or you can come help and I follow your lead? I'd just like some help, but I know The Last of Us is more important. If this came off as sarcastic and mean, whoops! I was trying.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk. Le Panini (talk) 13:30, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

@Le Panini: I apologise if my edit hurt to see; the article is well-written, but it used some unreliable sources and had some unsourced statements, so I figured I'd make some brief changes. I don't really have too much time at present to do much editing myself, but perhaps I can point you in the right direction.

• The Gameplay section currently looks pretty good; the main thing it needs is additional citations, particularly for the last paragraph.
• Development is pretty small, but honestly I'm not sure if there's much more that you could add at present. After a few quick search online, there doesn't seem to be any information about the development of the game. Hopefully the developers will give some interviews in the near future.
• Reception definitely needs an overhaul. If I may cite some of my own work, I'd recommend having a look at the Reception on articles like The Last of Us or Red Dead Redemption 2. Each paragraph discusses the critical response of a specific element of the game; in the case of The Last of Us: overview, story, characters, combat, visuals, world and environments, sound and music, depiction of violence, depiction of female characters. Within each paragraph, I try to group similar statements; I usually start with the praise and end with criticisms, keeping the heavier critiques to the end, but some paragraphs may require a flipped approach depending on the most prominent opinion from critics—I'd recommend looking at The Last of Us Part II for a better example of this.
  I'm not familiar with the reception of Super Mario Bros. 35, but I'd recommend separating paragraphs for different elements of the game—consider elements like: the game's concept, control scheme, multiplayer component, coin/powerup systems. Sometimes you'll find that one element won't have much commentary from critics, so you could consider merging them; for example, reactions to the actual concept of the game could fit neatly in the overview paragraph (alongside Metacritic's verdict), and the control scheme and coin/powerup systems could be merged if there's not enough information individually.

Once you've finished with the sections, I'd recommend revisiting the lead and expanding it. It's meant to be a summary of the article, so it's usually safe to have around two sentences regarding the gameplay, one or two (in this case) about the development and release, and an overview sentence about the general reception. You can look at the previous articles mentioned for examples of this, though they likely have more information than Super Mario Bros. 35 and therefore a much longer lead.

I hope this makes sense. Please let me know if you have any other questions or concerns about anything. I'd be more than happy to take a look over the article at any time, too! Best of luck. – Rhain ☔ 23:53, 9 October 2020 (UTC)

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The script doesn't work in preview mode, which I wasn't aware of, so I didn't proofread after publication. I'm careful enough. I'm not even that familiar with Nelson, I just wanted to help out. – Rhain ☔ 23:51, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Crash Bandicoot template

Hi there. I wonder what you think about the template. Should we use two sections since there are two different continuities now, or should we put all main games in one section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix (talk • contribs) 12:33, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Blazer Phoenix: There's only two games in the current continuity, so I think it's safe to keep it as it is. The "Main games" group currently has nine links, so it's not too crowded at present. – Rhain ☔ 12:38, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

So is there gonna be a change if Crash Bandicoot 5 is released? I think we shouldn't stuff them all in one section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blazer Phoenix (talk • contribs) 12:42, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

@Blazer Phoenix: Possibly. That would largely depend on the game itself. It's not really necessary at the moment, though. I wouldn't exactly call them "stuffed in" at present; there's only nine links, so it's still pretty sparse. – Rhain ☔ 13:22, 24 October 2020 (UTC)

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Roger Clark

hi! You just removed Roger Clark's birth date that i have added please add it again on wikipedia! Vedant04072005 (talk) 04:07, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vedant04072005: Please provide a reliable source that confirms his date of birth before adding it to the article. Read over WP:DOB for more information. – Rhain ☔ 04:17, 3 December 2020 (UTC)

The date of birth says on Google page of roger Clark's Vedant04072005 (talk) 16:22, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

@Vedant04072005: Google is not a reliable source. – Rhain ☔ 20:19, 19 December 2020 (UTC)

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RE: Crash Bandicoot (character)

Not sure how I'm going to find a legitimate source to confirm that Brendan O'Brien's famous "Woah" line was reused for Crash Team Racing, because he didn't receive credit for voicing Crash Bandicoot in that game.

All the other Crash Bandicoot lines from Crash Team Racing — including an additional "Woah" line — were provided by Chip Chinery, but he didn't receive credit either. But there is evidence in this upload that Brendan's "Woah" line was used. Although it's possible that it was shoehorned in by the uploader.

But once again, even if it turns out that Brendan's "Woah" line was used, not sure how and where to find a legitimate source. I don't have the game so I can't do any test runs and have Crash get injured repetitively to see whether Brendan's "Woah" line plays. ― C.Syde (talk | contribs) 01:59, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

@C.Syde65: If you can't find a legitimate source, then it doesn't fit in the article. Running tests in the game and coming to the conclusion ourselves is original research, which definitely doesn't belong there. Unless a reliable source reports on it, there's not much we can do. Besides, a single line being reused in a later game is pretty trivial information anyway. – Rhain ☔ 22:23, 10 December 2020 (UTC)