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Sadowski has been warned

It took me a while because I have got more important things to do (like writing an important Uni essay) than chase you and Sadowski around over your childish behaviour; again I could not care less who started what and who said what - take a break from one another before you get completely twisted up over what is, essentially, a relatively unimportant issue. I don't want to see you get blocked or (worse) booted, but it will happen if you can't calm down. ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 09:58, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Help on Canadian comics?

I've put Canadian comics up for peer review and have been working on cleaning it up based on the feedback I've been getting. Since you've made some edits to the article, would you be interested in helping out? CüRlyTüRkey^Talk_Contribs 02:03, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (January)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 1 · January 2, 2012 – February 6, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – RickV88 (talk · contribs) (January 6) Dubfire (talk · contribs) (January 13) Gaeaman787 (talk · contribs) (February 6) New recipients – Sabre ball (talk · contribs) (January 5) Dubfire (talk · contribs) (January 13) Hurricanefan25 in the storm (talk · contribs) (January 14) New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 30 37 49 134 C 6 29 39 89 163 Start 16 101 189 652 958 Stub 19 129 1,521 1,669 List 3 8 16 6 33 Category 383 383 Disambig 7 7 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 15 15 Template 155 155 NA 32 32 Assessed 50 198 430 2,323 695 3,696 Total 50 198 430 2,323 695 3,696 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Current Good Article Nominees – Hispania F110 Failed Good Article Nominees – 2011 Japanese Grand Prix
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Article of the month – Hispania F110, current Good Article nominee The Hispania F110 is a Formula One motor racing car designed and built by Dallara for Hispania Racing, for the 2010 season. It was driven by Karun Chandhok, Bruno Senna, Christian Klien and Sakon Yamamoto and was unveiled in Murcia, Spain, on 4 March 2010. It was the first car Hispania Racing entered in Formula One. The car used a Cosworth engine throughout the course of the 2010 season, of which it competed in every race with two of the four drivers who raced it. The team scored no points with the car during the season, and gained a highest result of fourteenth place. This was scored by both Chandhok and Senna, and meant that the team were placed eleventh and second-last in the 2010 World Constructors' Championship standings. The car gained no title sponsor from the team, and the car was never developed. Hispania's successor for their 2011 season campaign, the F111, was largely based upon the F110. (More...)
2012 Teams and Races From 2012 Formula One season 2012 Teams Team Constructor Drivers Car Red Bull Racing Red Bull Sebastian Vettel Red Bull RB8 Mark Webber Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren Jenson Button McLaren MP4-27 Lewis Hamilton Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari Fernando Alonso Ferrari F2012 Felipe Massa Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team Mercedes Michael Schumacher Mercedes F1 W03 Nico Rosberg Lotus F1 Team Lotus Kimi Räikkönen Lotus E20 Romain Grosjean Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India Paul di Resta Force India VJM05 Nico Hülkenberg Sauber F1 Team Sauber Kamui Kobayashi Sauber C31 Sergio Pérez Scuderia Toro Rosso Toro Rosso Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso STR7 Jean-Éric Vergne Williams F1 Team Williams Pastor Maldonado Williams FW34 Bruno Senna Caterham F1 Team Caterham Heikki Kovalainen Caterham CT01 Jarno Trulli HRT F1 Team HRT Pedro de la Rosa HRT F112 Narain Karthikeyan Marussia F1 Team Marussia Timo Glock Marussia MR01 Charles Pic 2012 Grands Prix Grand Prix Circuit Last Winner Date Australian Grand Prix Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit Sebastian Vettel 18 March Petronas Malaysia Grand Prix Sepang International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 25 March UBS Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit Lewis Hamilton 15 April Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain International Circuit Fernando Alonso (2010) 22 April Gran Premio de España Santander Circuit de Catalunya Sebastian Vettel 13 May Grand Prix de Monaco Circuit de Monaco Sebastian Vettel 27 May Grand Prix du Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve Jenson Button 10 June Grand Prix of Europe Valencia Street Circuit Sebastian Vettel 24 June Santander British Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit Fernando Alonso 8 July Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland Hockenheimring Lewis Hamilton 22 July Eni Magyar Nagydíj Hungaroring Jenson Button 29 July Shell Belgian Grand Prix Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps Sebastian Vettel 2 September Gran Premio Santander d'Italia Autodromo Nazionale Monza Sebastian Vettel 9 September SingTel Singapore Grand Prix Marina Bay Street Circuit Sebastian Vettel 23 September Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka Circuit Jenson Button 7 October Korean Grand Prix Korean International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 14 October Airtel Indian Grand Prix Buddh International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 28 October Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Marina Circuit Lewis Hamilton 4 November United States Grand Prix Circuit of the Americas Lewis Hamilton (2007) 18 November Grande Prêmio do Brasil Autódromo José Carlos Pace Mark Webber 25 November

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Merge discussion for Miss America protest

An article that you have been involved in editing, Miss America protest, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. — btphelps ^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:01, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Re: The train don't stop here anymore

I posted a response to your question regarding "Transylvania Terror Train" in the List of train songs. Thanks. It got me thinking...and it isn't even noon yet (EST). Allreet (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

My final answer...Cheers Allreet (talk) 20:04, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Duesenberg

Hi, I know your edit to Duesenberg was good faith, but I saw the edit and looked it up online, and the info is true, that's why I put the cn tag on it. I did give a coi warning to the editor, who claims to be the CEO of the new company. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 04:13, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

If you want to take it out again, go ahead, and I won't reverse you. The Mark of the Beast (talk) 04:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Ben Templesmith, again

I apologize for asking, but can you offer your opinion on the latest round of the Ben Templesmith Photo Saga? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:34, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXI, February 2012

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; award recipients; contest results Articles: The month's Featured and A-class content Book reviews: Nick-D looks into two recent Milhist books Op-ed: Ian Rose discusses article assessments

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Tweak of the week

LOL, good catch! --Uncle Ed (talk) 23:30, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

delta-v

It's fairly problematic to consider delta-v as a velocity change. It's only very, very loosely speaking a velocity change.GliderMaven (talk) 04:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC) For example if an ion drive is spiraling outwards from Earth or something, then the ion drive is expending delta-v, but the vehicle (it turns out) is actually slowing down because it's moving up the gravity well, and the orbital period is longer and the orbital speed is lower, the further out you go.GliderMaven (talk) 04:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC) And even in the Apollo program, when they fired their retrorockets, the vehicle actually sped up.GliderMaven (talk) 04:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC) And it's actually worse than that because the amount of velocity change you get depends on when you spend the delta-v; if you apply it close in to an astronomical body, then you end up with a very big velocity change for that delta-v, but a lot less if you expend it high up (Oberth effect).GliderMaven (talk) 04:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC) So it's doubtless not a good idea to describe it that way, and it's not referenced anyway.GliderMaven (talk) 04:16, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

You just left a thing on my talk page implying that you think that leads don't have to be referenced. If you think about it, that makes no sense, and WP:LEAD specifically says that they should be reliably sourced.GliderMaven (talk) 04:33, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Japanese submarines

Thanks for the additions here
I found a really interesting book on the subject (Carl Boyd, Akihito Yoshida, The Japanese Submarine Force and World War II) which, amongst other things, has all of them listed. So I was going to work my way through it; I thought a sortable table would be useful. Trouble is, there are a lot of conflicting accounts; even comparing it with the date of loss in Conway throws up some anomalies. Still,it's a start.
BTW You mentioned this, a while ago: “I came across a pair of Mk 14 circulars sinking boats in Blair; could I find it again?”. I don’t know if you did find them in the end, or if you still need them, but I came across this, on the U-869 page: “At least two other U-boats are known to have been lost to their own torpedoes: U-377 in 1944 and U-972 in late 1943. ….this attack also dreaded (sic) the US submarine force twice, as seen with USS Tang (SS-306) and USS Tullibee (SS-284).” Another notorious example is HMS Trinidad, while with Convoy PQ 13 in the Arctic, hit by one of her own torpedoes (though that was due to the cold conditions)
And I'm still working my way through Holwitz! Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 19:13, 3 March 2012 (UTC) Thanks again!
Just to check; you put RO-116 as sunk by aircraft and RO-117 sunk by USS England, the source being Fitzsimons: can you check that? Boyd & Yoshida have it the other way round, as does the table on the class page. Otherwise, it's coming along nicely. Xyl 54 (talk) 20:34, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Ford Model A - Fiscal HP of UK Variant

Hi. I am at a loss to understand why you reversed my change to the note about the fiscal HP of the Model A - one of my sources "The Automobile A-Z of Cars of the 20's" edited by the well respected Nick Baldwin clearly states, and I quote: "The 14.9hp AF (smaller bore, same stroke) was a special variant for Britain to save on horsepower tax and outsold the 3.3 version). Incidentally, the cubic capacity of the smaller engine is quoted as 2043cc not the 2033cc mentioned in the article. Other sources confirming the 14.9 fiscal horsepower rating of the smaller engined AF model are: "The Vintage Motor Car Pocketbook" by Cecil Clutton, Paul Bird and Anthony Harding, "The Complete Encyclopaedia of the Automobile" by G.N.Georgeano and "The Complete Catalogue of British Cars 1895-1975" by David Culshaw and David Horrobin. If you are looking for more contemporary confirmation then I suggest pages 285 to 288 of "The Motoring Encyclopaedia" published circa 1935. Regards Martin Hughes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.175.221.103 (talk) 10:11, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (February)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 2 · February 6, 2012 – March 5, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 39 48 132 C 6 30 43 91 170 Start 16 103 184 658 961 Stub 19 129 1,522 1,670 List 3 8 16 6 33 Category 385 385 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 14 14 Template 158 158 NA 33 33 Assessed 50 198 431 2,331 701 3,711 Unassessed 1 1 Total 50 199 431 2,331 701 3,712 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Failed Good Article Nominees – 2011 Japanese Grand Prix Hispania F110 Deletions – EJ-10 Wheel doughnut
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korean International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. Toro Rosso's Jean-Éric Vergne during pre-season testing at Jerez in February 2012. Vergne is due to make his Formula One race début at the Australian Grand Prix. New images 1978 2012
Article of the month – 2011 Japanese Grand Prix, failed Good Article nominee The 2011 Japanese Grand Prix (formally the XXXVII Japanese Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race that was held on 9 October 2011 at the Suzuka Circuit in Suzuka, Japan. It was the fifteenth round of the 2011 Formula One season, and the thirty-eighth time the Japanese Grand Prix had been held. The race, contested over 53 laps, was won by McLaren's Jenson Button, after he started from second on the grid. Fernando Alonso finished in second place for Scuderia Ferrari, and Sebastian Vettel completed the podium, with third, for Red Bull Racing. Vettel had started the race in pole position alongside Button, whom he had marginally outqualified. The two drivers were the only two within mathematical contention for the title. Button attempted to overtake Vettel at the start of the race, yet was pressured towards the grass by Vettel which resulted in him losing second place to Lewis Hamilton (who had started in third). Vettel was passed by Button in the second pit-stop phase, and was then passed by Alonso in the third. Hamilton slipped back from second to fifth, predominantly in the pit-stops; debris from a collision between himself and Felipe Massa caused a safety car period in the race. The second Red Bull of Mark Webber finished in fourth position. As a consequence of the race, Vettel secured the World Drivers' Championship for the second year in succession, having only required one point prior to the weekend to be declared World Champion. Button remained in second place on the standings after his victory, extending the gap over third-placed Alonso to eight points. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull's championship lead over McLaren was cut to 130 points, with Ferrari a further 96 points behind in third position. (More...)
2012 Teams and Races From 2012 Formula One season 2012 Teams Team Constructor Drivers Car Red Bull Racing Red Bull Sebastian Vettel Red Bull RB8 Mark Webber Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren Jenson Button McLaren MP4-27 Lewis Hamilton Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari Fernando Alonso Ferrari F2012 Felipe Massa Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team Mercedes Michael Schumacher Mercedes F1 W03 Nico Rosberg Lotus F1 Team Lotus Kimi Räikkönen Lotus E20 Romain Grosjean Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India Paul di Resta Force India VJM05 Nico Hülkenberg Sauber F1 Team Sauber Kamui Kobayashi Sauber C31 Sergio Pérez Scuderia Toro Rosso Toro Rosso Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso STR7 Jean-Éric Vergne Williams F1 Team Williams Pastor Maldonado Williams FW34 Bruno Senna Caterham F1 Team Caterham Heikki Kovalainen Caterham CT01 Vitaly Petrov HRT F1 Team HRT Pedro de la Rosa HRT F112 Narain Karthikeyan Marussia F1 Team Marussia Timo Glock Marussia MR01 Charles Pic 2012 Grands Prix Grand Prix Circuit Last Winner Date Australian Grand Prix Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit Sebastian Vettel 18 March Petronas Malaysia Grand Prix Sepang International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 25 March UBS Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit Lewis Hamilton 15 April Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain International Circuit Fernando Alonso (2010) 22 April Gran Premio de España Santander Circuit de Catalunya Sebastian Vettel 13 May Grand Prix de Monaco Circuit de Monaco Sebastian Vettel 27 May Grand Prix du Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve Jenson Button 10 June Grand Prix of Europe Valencia Street Circuit Sebastian Vettel 24 June Santander British Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit Fernando Alonso 8 July Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland Hockenheimring Lewis Hamilton 22 July Eni Magyar Nagydíj Hungaroring Jenson Button 29 July Shell Belgian Grand Prix Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps Sebastian Vettel 2 September Gran Premio Santander d'Italia Autodromo Nazionale Monza Sebastian Vettel 9 September SingTel Singapore Grand Prix Marina Bay Street Circuit Sebastian Vettel 23 September Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka Circuit Jenson Button 7 October Korean Grand Prix Korean International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 14 October Airtel Indian Grand Prix Buddh International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 28 October Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Marina Circuit Lewis Hamilton 4 November United States Grand Prix Circuit of the Americas Lewis Hamilton (2007) 18 November Grande Prêmio do Brasil Autódromo José Carlos Pace Mark Webber 25 November

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British Tank Figures.

Hello,Trekkers. I don't understand your comment on and removal of British tank production. There are figures for France, Germany, U.S.A. (none), Italy, and Russia. It seems to me that anyone entering this topic would wonder about how many vehicles were produced, and by whom, during its early history. I have not reverted your edit, because I am learning that that is how one is lured into an edit war, so I am putting the matter up for discussion. I do try not to editorialise. I don't delete things unless they are wrong (in which case I offer references) or unless I replace them with something better. It is my suggestion that the sentence should be reinstated. Regards, Hengistmate (talk) 23:32, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

"I'm not looking for an edit war, either. I didn't see the other numbers. If you've got them, or they're on the page, I'd suggest putting them all together. Subhead as "production"?"

Some people do, though. Personality disorder. A table sounds like a lot of work. Maybe for dedicated WWI articles, but in a wider context such as this, can't we just return to the status quo ante? Of course, if you feel like doing a table . . . Hengistmate (talk) 00:18, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

In the absence of anything more ambitious, I'm going to reinstate the British figure. Since the figures for the other combatants are there, it looks odd without GB. Regards, Hengistmate (talk) 11:36, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Japanese submarines, again

Hi there
I’ve just made some changes to the Japanese RO- sub list; I’ve put the Boyd,Yoshida refs in: I've also trimmed the Fitzsimons refs down to a group ref, as they are all the same page; it seems neater. If you are OK with that we could do the I- boats the same way. I’ve also changed the date of the Batfish kills from 1942 to 1945; that’s what B&Y say, and it seems more likely. I’m assuming it’s a slip of the keyboard, but if Fitzsimons does give the earlier date we’ll need to put it in as a discrepancy.
And I’ve scrubbed the K5, K6 links; the Kaichu article doesn’t agree with Conway or BY about the Type number, so that needs resolving there (I’ve left a note there about it). Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 12:51, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

I got your note, but I’m not sure what you mean.

What I had in mind for the Fitzsimons refs was to group them by page ie the cites to the I-15 bit in Vol 13(p1402) would go together, the I-16’s (p1404) then the I-21’s (p1407), etc. Where it leads to a note rather than a cite for the information, we make it a footnote, with the cite included. The Blair refs are generally on separate pages, so they’d all be separate; the Conway refs (which I need to put in yet) would group as they’re all together on a few class list pages.

And I see I confused you with the reference sections; that’s me trying to do two different articles in the same sandbox at the same time, which ( with hindsight) wasn’t the best of ideas. Xyl 54 (talk) 11:48, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

PS: I think I've twigged; does Fitzsimons treat them as classes, and have separate articles for each (the B type = I-15 class, C type = I-16, etc)? In that case, yes, the group cite would be to an article, rather than a page. I'm not familiar with Fitzsimons at all, so I don't know the layout. Boyd&Yoshida have all the losses in an Appendix, so grouping them by page (there's about 16 per page, on average) is what I'd intended there. Does that make sense? Xyl 54 (talk) 11:55, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

PPS:I’ve also split the I-boat table up temporarily; it was getting too confusing to work on as it was. It can go back together when it's done. Xyl 54 (talk) 11:57, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

(forgot to log in! )

So where the ref says “I-16 vol 13 p1404” (cited for I-16, 18, 20, 22 and 24) is that one article covering those four five boats? Or separate articles for each boat? Xyl 54 (talk) 23:28, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

So we could use the I-16 ref for the five boats in that class, couldn't we? (Conway calls it the C1 type, but it amounts to the same thing) And the I-15 ref for the 20-odd boats in the B1 group, and so on? Xyl 54 (talk) 12:31, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

OK I think we are agreed; I’ll do the I-300’s to show what I mean; let me know what you think. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:13, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

PS I’m going to be away for a week (in case you post to me and I don’t answer!) but I’ll try and pick this up again next Sunday. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:14, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

PPS: I changed the refs for I-366 to 373 to a group (Fitzsimons I361); the refs on I-361 to 365 were to Fitzsimons I351, but I changed those as well (here). I'm trusting that's correct; Conway lists them all as D1 type, which (I'm guessing) is the same as Fitzsimons I-361 class. Anyway, time to wrap it up...Xyl 54 (talk) 23:44, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

SBSP

Hi, sorry for the capitals and the weak orthograph and spelling, i should use a corrector, i am getting so passionate sometimes that i overemphasize information over presentation.--Beaucouplusneutre (talk) 17:54, 21 March 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXII, March 2012

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Japanese submarines, yet again

Hello (back again!)
Just to catch up (and to reply to your last post); I don't think we are in disagreement on the 300's, are we? Fitzsimons I-351 class is Conways SH type, AFAIK (they were tankers, and there was just the two of them (351 and 352)). So we should have his I-351 article as ref for them. His I-361 class (Conways D1 type, transports) covers boats 361 to 372, so that article should be the ref for all of them. There isn't an article cited for 373 and 374; Conway has them as D2 type, so maybe Fitzsimons has them as a separate article.
I've also put the KRS's in the I-100 section; I think it's less confusing that way.
Anyway, keep smiling, Xyl 54 (talk) 23:44, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

Eh bien: I've done the I-100's; see what you think...Xyl 54 (talk) 13:50, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

I've done the I-15 and -16 Fitzsimon refs in the 1 to 58 list; the others are OK as they are, I think. Xyl 54 (talk) 13:43, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (March)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 3 · March 5, 2012 – April 2, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Makheras (talk · contribs) (March 19) Mercotus (talk · contribs) (March 20) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 39 48 132 C 6 32 43 92 173 Start 16 102 182 661 961 Stub 19 129 1,522 1,670 List 3 8 16 6 33 Category 387 387 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 14 14 Template 161 161 NA 34 34 Assessed 50 199 429 2,335 707 0 3,720 Unassessed 1 1 Total 50 199 429 2,335 707 1 3,721 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Deletions – 2014 Formula One season List of drivers who have raced in Formula One, IndyCar and NASCAR
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Article of the month – 2012 Australian Grand Prix 250px|right The 2012 Australian Grand Prix (formally, the 2012 Formula 1 Qantas Australian Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on 18 March 2012 as the opening round of the 2012 Formula One season. It was the 77th race in the combined history of the Australian Grand Prix that dates back to the 100 Miles Road Race of 1928, and the 17th time the event has been held at the Melbourne Grand Prix Circuit at Albert Park. The race, contested over 58 laps, was won by McLaren driver Jenson Button who took his third victory at the Albert Park Circuit. Reigning Double World Champion Sebastian Vettel, driving for Red Bull Racing, finished in second place, while polesitter and McLaren teammate Lewis Hamilton completed the podium. Australian Mark Webber was fourth, his best result in his home grand prix. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 35 2nd Lewis Hamilton McLaren 30 3rd Jenson Button McLaren 25 4th Mark Webber Red Bull 24 5th Sergio Pérez Sauber 22 6th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 18 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 16 8th Bruno Senna Williams 8 9th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 8 10th Paul di Resta Force India 7 11th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 12th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 13th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 2 14th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1 15th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 0 16th Pastor Maldonado Williams 0 17th Timo Glock Marussia 0 18th Charles Pic Marussia 0 19th Felipe Massa Ferrari 0 20th Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 21st Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 22nd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 23rd Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Romain Grosjean Lotus 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 55 2nd Red Bull Racing RB8 42 3rd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 35 4th Sauber F1 Team C31 30 5th Lotus F1 Team E20 16 6th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 9 7th Williams F1 Team FW34 8 8th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 9th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 1 10th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 11th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Australian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Jenson Button McLaren 1:34:09.565 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 2.139 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 4.075 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 4.547 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 21.565 6th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 36.766 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 38.014 8th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 39.458 9th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 39.556 10th Paul di Resta Force India + 39.737 Fastest Lap: Jenson Button 1:29.187, on lap 56 Australian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:24.922 Jenson Button McLaren 1:25.074 Row two Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:25.302 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:25.336 Row three Mark Webber Red Bull 1:25.651 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:25.668 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:25.686 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:25.908 Row five Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:26.451 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso No time* * Ricciardo did not complete a flying lap in the third part of qualifying. Friday Practice 1 – McLaren set the Melbourne standard Friday Practice 2 – Schumacher tops unsettled session Saturday Practice – Hamilton pips Grosjean Qualifying – Hamilton heads McLaren one-two Race – Button proves untouchable in Melbourne
Malaysian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 2:44:51.8121 2nd Sergio Pérez Sauber + 2.263 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 14.591 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 17.688 5th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 29.456 6th Bruno Senna Williams + 37.667 7th Paul di Resta Force India + 44.412 8th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso + 46.985 9th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 47.892 10th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 49.996 Fastest Lap: Kimi Räikkönen 1:40.722, on lap 53 Malaysian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:36.219 Jenson Button McLaren 1:36.368 Row two Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:36.391 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:36.461 Row three Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:36.634 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:36.658 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:36.664 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:37.566 Row five Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:37.698 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:36.461* 1 – Total time includes time elapsed under red flag conditions. * Räikkönen was given a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change after the second practice session. Raikkonen facing five-place grid penalty Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton stakes claim at Sepang Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton stays on top for McLaren Saturday Practice – Rosberg flies for Mercedes Qualifying – Hamilton beats Button to Sepang pole Race – Alonso holds off stellar Perez for Sepang victory

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Invitation to diacritics guideline discussion at WT:BLP

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Fireball

re: diff. Oops .. missed that in the lead. browser width was such that last word wrapped to 2nd sentence. Anyway - interested in working on the article? 2eschew surplusage (talk) 02:36, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Er. I think you just replied to 2eschew surplusage on my Talk by mistake :) In ictu oculi (talk) 00:08, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

I did. Too many tabs open at once... :( 03:37, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

• Thanks Trekphiler. I'm digging up some refs and posting to my sandbox talk page. May be a few days before I start making changes, but I think this will be my first "concentrated effort" as far as an article improvement goes. I'll try to get it up to GA (or close), and if anyone wants to put it up for that then I'll do what I can to fix or improve. When I think it's good to go, I'll also mention it at the NASCAR project. ttyl. 2eschew surplusage (talk) 03:49, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

Motorcycle land-speed record

The Vesco homepage says about the event: “At Speed Week 1969 Don Vesco posted the fastest one-way motorcycle time at 227 mph in his twin 350 cc R3 Yamaha streamliner. The 18 ft. liner was fashioned out of a wing tank. Handling problems plagued Don and crew but they were encouraged with the speed and power the Yamahas produced. Team Vesco returned to the salt the following year with a redisgned, repainted streamliner. Don set a one-way speed of 240.244 mph on gasoline, only to have the rear tire blow out on the return run. Two weeks later, Don became the fastest man on two wheels by establishing the record at 251.924 mph” You may be sure that this two-stroke engine has not been turbocharged. ----84.167.186.226 (talk) 14:07, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Question

I came across an article the other day, (Resident spy), that is in need of serious repair (or deletion). I found that you added a notice to it citing it was of interest to other wiki-projects. If you don't mind, I was wondering if you would take a look at it again and see if what, if anything, should/could be done with it. It's poorly written and has no sources at all. It was flagged five years ago, yet it still remains as is. Thanks. I will look for your respons here - thewolfchild 07:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

I'd say sourcing is the main problem. It shouldn't be too hard to find; Barron's book on the KGB would be a good start, or even a basic book on espionage & the history of KGB or GRU. The formatting & writing do need some work. I'd hesitate to delete; merge to Espionage, or to KGB & GRU, instead, at worst; it's mostly accurate & uncontroversial AFAICT. TREKphiler ^{any time you're ready, Uhura} 07:37, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIII, April 2012

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; award recipients; contest results Articles: The month's Featured and A-class content Book reviews: Bomzibar on Subhas Chandra Bose; Hawkeye on corps commanders; Nick-D on American special forces Op-ed: The Land on commemorating World War I

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WPF1 Newsletter (April)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 4 · April 2, 2012 – May 7, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Dontforgetthisone (talk · contribs) (April 8) Danesman (talk · contribs) (April 15) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 39 48 132 C 6 35 44 94 179 Start 16 101 183 675 975 Stub 18 130 1,524 1,672 List 3 8 18 4 33 Category 387 387 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 13 13 Template 162 162 NA 35 35 Assessed 50 200 434 2,351 708 3,743 Total 50 200 434 2,351 708 3,743 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Featured List Candidates - List of Formula One polesitters Deletions – 2014 Formula One season
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Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. Paul di Resta matched his career best finish of sixth place, at the Bahrain Grand Prix. New images 2012
Article of the month – 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix The 2012 Bahrain Grand Prix (formally known as the 2012 Formula 1 Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix) was a Formula One motor race held on 22 April 2012 at the Bahrain International Circuit in Sakhir, Bahrain. It was the first time Formula One returned to Bahrain after the 2011 race was cancelled due to ongoing anti-government protests. The race, the eighth running of the Bahrain Grand Prix, was contested over 57 laps and was the fourth round of the 2012 Formula One season. Sebastian Vettel started the race from pole position, leading into the first corner and for the majority of the race en route to victory. He was not without pressure though, as the Lotus of Kimi Räikkönen climbed the field, having started in eleventh place, and challenged for the lead before finishing second. Räikkönen's team-mate Romain Grosjean took the first podium finish of his career by finishing third, after having a strong start and quickly moving into second place by overtaking Lewis Hamilton and Mark Webber. Räikkönen passed Grosjean for second place roughly half-way through the race, being on a better tyre strategy. Hamilton started on the front row, but pitstop errors and degrading tyres left him eighth; his McLaren teammate, Jenson Button, retired with two laps remaining. As a consequence of the race, Sebastian Vettel took the lead in the Drivers' Championship from Lewis Hamilton. He became the fourth driver to top the standings from four races, and also the fourth race winner. Hamilton remained second, four points behind Vettel, whilst Webber jumped in front of Button to move into third with his fourth consecutive fourth place. Webber was just one point behind Hamilton, and Button was only five points behind him; Nico Rosberg was fifth. The Constructors' Championship was now lead by Red Bull, who also took the lead from McLaren (who were now nine points behind them). Lotus F1 moved up from sixth to third in the standings after their first podium. Ferrari fell to fourth whilst Mercedes remained fifth. The race's opponents described the decision to hold the race despite ongoing protests and violence as one of the most controversial Grands Prix in the sport's sixty-year history. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 53 2nd Lewis Hamilton McLaren 49 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull 48 4th Jenson Button McLaren 43 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari 43 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 35 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 34 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 23 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber 22 10th Paul di Resta Force India 15 11th Bruno Senna Williams 14 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 9 13th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 14th Pastor Maldonado Williams 4 15th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 16th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 2 17th Felipe Massa Ferrari 2 18th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 2 19th Timo Glock Marussia 0 20th Charles Pic Marussia 0 21st Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 22nd Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 23rd Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 24th Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 101 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 92 3rd Lotus F1 Team E20 57 4th Scuderia Ferrari F2012 45 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 37 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 31 7th Williams F1 Team FW34 18 8th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 17 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 10th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 11th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Chinese Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:36:26.929 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 20.626 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 26.012 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 27.924 5th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 30.483 6th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 31.491 7th Bruno Senna Williams + 34.597 8th Pastor Maldonado Williams + 35.643 9th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 37.256 10th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 38.720 Fastest Lap: Kamui Kobayashi 1:39.960, on lap 40 Chinese Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:35.121 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:35.691 Row two Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:35.784 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:35.898 Row three Jenson Button McLaren 1:36.191 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:36.290 Row four Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:35.626* Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:36.524 Row five Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:36.622 Romain Grosjean Lotus No time† * Hamilton was given a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change prior to the weekend. Hamilton set for China grid penalty † Grosjean failed to record a lap time during Q3. Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton tops damp session in Shanghai Friday Practice 2 – Schumacher pips Hamilton to set the pace Saturday Practice – Hamilton heads McLaren one-two Qualifying – Rampaging Rosberg takes maiden F1 pole Race – Rosberg an F1 winner after Shanghai thriller
Bahrain Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:35:10.990 2nd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 3.333 3rd Romain Grosjean Lotus + 10.194 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 38.788 5th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 55.460 6th Paul di Resta Force India + 57.543 7th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 57.803 8th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 58.984 9th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 1:04.999 10th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 1:11.490 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:36.379, on lap 41 Bahrain Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:32.422 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:32.520 Row two Mark Webber Red Bull 1:32.637 Jenson Button McLaren 1:32.711 Row three Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:32.821 Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 1:32.912 Row four Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:33.008 Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:33.394 Row five Fernando Alonso Ferrari No time* Paul di Resta Force India No time† * Alonso did not complete a flying lap during Q3. † di Resta failed to record a lap time during Q3. Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton leads Vettel in Bahrain Friday Practice 2 – Rosberg still flying for Mercedes Saturday Practice – Red Bull close in on Rosberg Qualifying – Resurgent Vettel takes Sakhir pole Race – Vettel holds off Raikkonen for Sakhir win

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Your photo of a 1953 Oldsmobile

In the Oldsmobile 88 article there is a photo of a red Oldsmobile 88 convertible. On the New contributors' help page someone reported it was in fact a 1956 Oldsmobile, not a 1953. I would tend to agree as there is a photo of a 1953 Oldsmobile in the Oldsmobile article.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:48, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

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WPF1 Newsletter (May)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 5 · May 7, 2012 – June 4, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – BosleyTree (talk · contribs) (May 20) Lewishamiltonheikki (talk · contribs) (June 4) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 40 48 133 C 6 35 43 94 178 Start 16 101 184 677 1 979 Stub 18 130 1,526 1,674 List 2 8 18 4 32 Category 389 389 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 21 21 Template 162 162 NA 36 36 Assessed 49 200 435 2,355 719 1 3,759 Unassessed 1 2 3 Total 49 200 435 2,356 719 3 3,762 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Featured List Candidates – List of Formula One polesitters Ongoing Peer Reviews – 2012 Formula One season
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Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. By winning the Monaco Grand Prix, Mark Webber (here leading Nico Rosberg on the final lap) became the sixth different winner in as many races, making this the most open F1 season on record. New images 2012
Article of the month – 2012 Formula One season, current peer review The 2012 Formula One season is the 63rd FIA Formula One season. The season started in Australia on 18 March and will end in Brazil on 25 November. It is being contested over twenty races – the most races in a season in the sport's history – and will see the return of the United States Grand Prix, which will be held at the Circuit of the Americas, a purpose-built circuit in Austin, Texas. After being cancelled in 2011 due to civil protests, the Bahrain Grand Prix returned to the calendar. In addition to having the greatest number of races in a championship year, the 2012 season broke several records. Six current and former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, Fernando Alonso and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970. The 2012 season was also the first time that the first six championship races of a season were won by six different drivers. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 76 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 73 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull 73 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 63 5th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 59 6th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 51 7th Jenson Button McLaren 45 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 35 9th Pastor Maldonado Williams 29 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber 22 11th Paul di Resta Force India 21 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 19 13th Bruno Senna Williams 15 14th Felipe Massa Ferrari 10 15th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 7 16th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 17th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 18th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 2 19th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 20th Timo Glock Marussia 0 21st Charles Pic Marussia 0 22nd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 23rd Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 24th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 146 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 108 3rd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 86 4th Lotus F1 Team E20 86 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 61 6th Williams F1 Team FW34 44 7th Sauber F1 Team C31 41 8th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 28 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 10th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 11th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Spanish Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:39:09.145 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 3.195 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 3.884 4th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 14.799 5th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 1:04.641 6th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 1:07.576 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 1:17.919 8th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 1:18.140 9th Jenson Button McLaren + 1:25.246 10th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Romain Grosjean 1:26.250, on lap 53 Spanish Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:22.285* Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:22.302 Row two Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:22.424 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:22.487 Row three Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:22.533 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:23.005 Row four Sebastian Vettel Red Bull No time† Michael Schumacher Mercedes No time‡ Row five Kamui Kobayashi Sauber No time§ Jenson Button McLaren 1:22.944 (Q2) * Lewis Hamilton (1:21.707) was disqualified from the qualifying session, and sent to the back of the grid after stewards deemed he did not have enough fuel in his car, following the session; Hamilton had stopped on track following his qualifying lap. Hamilton excluded from qualifying results; Maldonado on pole † Vettel did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. ‡ Schumacher did not start a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. § Kobayashi stopped at the end of the second part of qualifying, and was not permitted to compete in the third part. Friday Practice 1 – Home advantage to Alonso Friday Practice 2 – Button leads in Barcelona for McLaren Saturday Practice – Vettel moves ahead in Spain Qualifying – Hamilton on pole from Maldonado Race – Magnificent Maldonado puts Williams back on top
Monaco Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Mark Webber Red Bull 1:46:06.557 2nd Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 0.643 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 0.947 4th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 1.343 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 4.101 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 6.195 7th Paul di Resta Force India + 41.537 8th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 42.562 9th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 44.036 10th Bruno Senna Williams + 44.516 Fastest Lap: Sergio Pérez (Sauber) 1:17.296, on lap 49 Monaco Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Mark Webber Red Bull 1:14.381 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:14.448 Row two Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:14.583 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:14.639 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:14.948 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:14.301* Row four Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:15.049 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:15.199 Row five Sebastian Vettel Red Bull No time† Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:15.421 (Q2)‡ * Schumacher was demoted five places on the starting grid, following a collision with Bruno Senna at the Spanish Grand Prix. Schumacher handed five-place grid penalty for Monaco † Vettel did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. ‡ Pastor Maldonado (1:15.245) was given a ten-place grid penalty for an avoidable collision with Sergio Pérez in the third free practice session. He was also given a five-place grid penalty for a change of gearbox. Maldonado takes grid penalty after Perez incident Thursday Practice 1 – Alonso sets early Monaco pace Thursday Practice 2 – Button tops rain-hit Monaco session Saturday Practice – Rosberg leads, Maldonado crashes Qualifying – Schumacher fastest, Webber on pole Race – Webber makes it six winners from six races

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Good day, Trekphiler. We should, perhaps, talk. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Tank#Edits_June_8th.2C_2012._Conception. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hengistmate (talk • contribs) 16:02, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

NCIS characters

So, tell me why they should be capitalized in the table but not in the descriptions below. They are not proper nouns. Proper nouns are names. These are occupations (as it says), and they're not capitalized unless they're titles (before the name). --Musdan77 (talk) 01:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

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I had to buy you a beer for having one of the most interesting user pages I have seen on Wikipedia. Great stuff! If you look closely I have dropped a whiskey shot in it as well. Cheers! Traveler7 (talk) 04:50, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

RE: What brought me to this page? I had been editing on Wiki for about three years now and realized that I did not have anything on my profile page. I then decided to randomly look at other editors pages and see what they had done. To my surprise, the differences between them are as varied as the people themselves, and I spent a few hours just reading user pages. Your page that I simply stumbled onto by accident really stood out and it was very interesting to read. I only recently discovered the "wiki love" thing too - I was wondering where all the awards, barnstars and stuff was coming from. I thought they were only from the "powers that be" ;-) I have only been an infrequent contributer in the past, but it is interesting to see what the real wiki junkies are doing. I signed up for a few projects and plan on getting more involved in the future. I will have to message you if I need any advise on them.--Traveler7 (talk) 19:09, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

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I don't want to get into an edit war over this, but there's no such thing as "attributed plagiarism". If it's attributed, it isn't plagiarised. You might want to read over WP:Plagiarism; specifically, the first sentence ("plagiarism is the incorporation of someone else's work without providing adequate credit") and the section on public-domain sources ("material from public-domain sources is welcome on Wikipedia" and "the source's text can also be copied directly into a Wikipedia article verbatim"). This is standard practice. There are over 9,000 articles lifted straight from DANFS. Do you propose to tag all of those as well? DoctorKubla (talk) 12:55, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like you want to change the plagiarism guidelines. Good luck with that. As it stands, though, the article doesn't meet Wikipedia's definition of plagiarism, and tagging it as such is unnecessary and misleading. DoctorKubla (talk) 18:49, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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Hello. Firstly, I would like to constructively criticize you for not notifying me of your undos. As part of my beliefs on courtesy, if I undo another's edit, I will always leave a notification. Your first revert I do not disagree with, since I can see that an editor may have reason to disagree with that statement. Perhaps we should discuss this? Secondly, you stated “this kind of literal-mindedness is absurd”. That sounds like an opinion to me. See Wikipedia:I just don't like it. My statements were completely accurate, and I saw nothing but benefit to include them in the article. I would appreciate your response. Please leave a talkback notification on my talk page after you reply. Thanks in advance. 69.155.143.207 (talk) 22:11, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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WPF1 Newsletter (June)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 6 · June 4, 2012 – July 2, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Urbanoc (talk · contribs) (June 5) L. Zheng Wei (talk · contribs) (June 7) GyaroMaguus (talk · contribs) (June 19) F1fan1000 (talk · contribs) (June 26) TheOriginalSoni (talk · contribs) (June 27) New recipients – L. Zheng Wei (talk · contribs) (June 8) New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news The newsletter is now being delivered by EdwardsBot.	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 18 27 40 48 133 C 6 36 43 95 180 Start 16 101 185 687 1 990 Stub 18 130 1,522 1 1,671 List 2 8 18 4 32 Category 523 523 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 21 21 Template 173 173 NA 37 37 Assessed 49 201 436 2,362 865 2 3,915 Unassessed 1 1 Total 49 201 436 2,363 865 2 3,916 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Failed Featured List Candidates - List of Formula One polesitters Completed Peer Reviews – 2012 Formula One season Ongoing Peer Reviews – List of Formula One circuits
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Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. Lewis Hamilton extended the 2012 season's record by becoming the seventh different winner is as many races at the 2012 Canadian Grand Prix. At the following race in Valencia, Fernando Alonso broke the sequence by taking his second win of the year. New images 2012
Article of the month – List of Formula One circuits, currently listed for Peer Review Formula One, abbreviated to F1, is the highest class of open-wheeled auto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and vehicles must conform. The F1 World Championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The first Grand Prix was held in 1950 at Silverstone; since then 68 circuits have hosted a Grand Prix. Circuits such as the Nürburgring have hosted Grands Prix using different configurations. The first race at the circuit used the 22 kilometres (14 mi) circuit, but concerns over safety meant that more recent Grands Prix have used a shorter, safer circuit. F1 circuits were predominately in Europe during the early years of the championship, as the sport has expanded so has the location of its circuits. New circuits have been used in Asia and America, the change has been a recent occurrence. Of the 20 circuits that will host a Grand Prix in 2012, nearly half were not on the calendar before 1999. The Autodromo Nazionale Monza has hosted the most Grands Prix; it has been used as the circuit for the Italian Grand Prix 61 times. The only season it did not host a race was in 1980, when the Italian Grand Prix was held at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari. The most recent circuit to have hosted a Grand Prix was the Buddh International Circuit, which hosted the Indian Grand Prix in 2011. The Circuit of the Americas is set to become the latest different circuit to host a Grand Prix; when the United States Grand Prix is staged there in 2012, at Austin, Texas. The Pescara Circuit is the longest circuit to have hosted a Grand Prix. The 25.800 km (16.031 mi) long circuit normally held the Coppa Acerbo race, it hosted one World Championship race, the 1957 Pescara Grand Prix. As some circuits have hosted Grands Prix using different configurations, the most recent configuration used is listed in the table below. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 111 2nd Mark Webber Red Bull 91 3rd Lewis Hamilton McLaren 88 4th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 85 5th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 75 6th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 73 7th Romain Grosjean Lotus 53 8th Jenson Button McLaren 49 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber 39 10th Pastor Maldonado Williams 29 11th Paul di Resta Force India 27 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 21 13th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 17 14th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 17 15th Bruno Senna Williams 16 16th Felipe Massa Ferrari 11 17th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 18th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 19th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 20th Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 21st Timo Glock Marussia 0 22nd Charles Pic Marussia 0 23rd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 24th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 176 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 137 3rd Lotus F1 Team E20 126 4th Scuderia Ferrari F2012 122 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 92 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 60 7th Williams F1 Team FW34 45 8th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 44 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 10th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 11th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Canadian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:32:29.586 2nd Romain Grosjean Lotus + 2.513 3rd Sergio Pérez Sauber + 5.260 4th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 7.295 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 13.411 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 13.842 7th Mark Webber Red Bull + 15.085 8th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 15.567 9th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 24.432 10th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 25.272 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:15.752, on lap 70 Canadian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:13.784 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:14.087 Row two Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:14.151 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:14.346 Row three Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:14.411 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:14.465 Row four Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:14.645 Paul di Resta Force India 1:14.705 Row five Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:14.812 Jenson Button McLaren 1:15.182 Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton sets the Montreal benchmark Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton heads Ferrari duo Saturday Practice – Vettel pips Alonso in Montreal Qualifying – Vettel cruises to Canada pole Race – Seventh time lucky for Hamilton in Canada
European Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:44:16.649 2nd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 6.421 3rd Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 12.639 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 13.628 5th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 19.993 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 21.176 7th Paul di Resta Force India + 22.866 8th Jenson Button McLaren + 24.653 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 27.777 10th Bruno Senna Williams + 35.961* Fastest Lap: Nico Rosberg 1:42.163, on lap 54 European Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:38.086 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:38.410 Row two Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:38.475 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:38.505 Row three Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:38.513 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:38.623 Row four Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:38.741 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:38.752 Row five Jenson Button McLaren 1:38.801 Paul di Resta Force India 1:38.992 * Pastor Maldonado (10th, + 34.630) was given a 20-second time penalty post-race for causing a collision with Lewis Hamilton, and for failing to rejoin the track in a safe manner. Maldonado penalised over Hamilton clash Friday Practice 1 – Maldonado sets Valencia standard Friday Practice 2 – Vettel leads tight Valencia field Saturday Practice – Button edges charging Lotuses Qualifying – Vettel bests the rest to secure Valencia pole Race – Alonso triumphs in Valencia thriller

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Otis

hello, could you clarify on the nomination page why you removed the inflation templates? Regards.--GoP_T^C_N 09:22, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

Daimler motor

Hi, what makes you think sourcing should not be hard? I can tell you I have found it impossible and I am sure that is the way the parties concerned wish it to be. Nevertheless the strong suspicion that it is correct makes it an extremely pointed note to leave there. Why remove it? Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 09:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Tata for now

I don't mean you need to source the fact of the intent. I mean, find an actual source saying there's a suspicion that was the plan. Otherwise, it's pure speculation. TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 09:42, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I would expect this (source you suggest be searched for) to be in a financial newspaper of the day where a columnist was mulling over the final deal that the public was able to see. Things like subscriptions mean I've no access to those newspapers of any standing that might have been interested enough in the arrangement. Eddaido (talk) 09:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Redding and inflation

hello, I posted your answer on the nomination page, but the reviewer is not completely satisfied. If possible, could you respond at the page? Regards.--GoP_T^C_N 15:38, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Public roads used for racing

I don't understand your change. To put it another way, Valencia and Monaco are raced on public roads that are closed off for the occasion, as opposed to most race tracks that are race tracks all the time. Spa used to be (and remained until recently) on public roads but those roads are now used only as a race track. Maybe the idea that the roads are public when they are not being used for racing is not clear enough? Britmax (talk) 12:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for supplying analysis of the anon edits to the MIS article

I want to thank you for taking the time to investigate the anon editor claims at Military Intelligence Service (United States), and for pointing out in agonizing detail the abject weaknesses in that editor's arguments and sources. It's clear that he's intransigent in his views, as well as being rather incoherent. A block would be ideal, but as he rotates through different IPs it may be necessary to set up an indefinite page protection if he continues to edit war following the page protection expiration (as I expect). But since you've laid out the case against his edits so clearly, it should be much easier to make the case for renewed page protection. Thanks for your help! — Myasuda (talk) 01:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(Vietnamese)#RfC_on_spelling

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The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012

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Thanks! I copied the basic design from someone else (can't remember who it was, it was several years ago now), so my advice would be to copy the code from my user page, paste it onto your own page, and then play around with colours, images, fonts etc. until it's to your taste. The navbar system works by linking to pages which you will need to create in your own user subspace.--Midgrid(talk) 11:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I've just checked how my userpage works for the first time in several years...you will need to create your own version of User:Midgrid/Navbar in your user subspace, and then transclude it onto your main userpage.--Midgrid(talk) 12:08, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I've created User:Trekphiler/Navbar for you. If you follow the link, you can fiddle around with the code on that page to change colour, font size, font style, border thickness, adding more subpages etc. It shows up on your userpage as {{User:Trekphiler/Navbar}}.--Midgrid(talk) 12:27, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Oh yes, you can rename the subpages - I just used example names.--Midgrid(talk) 12:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't really know how to describe making the changes (as I worked it out for myself the first time around through much trial-and-error :P ), but this is how I changed the links and reduced their number (N.B. the "About me" page does not exist; you will need to create one or link it to somewhere else). I also took the liberty of changing the colours of the navbar to match those in your signature by doing this; feel free to revert this if you don't like it. Hope this helps!--Midgrid(talk) 14:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

User pages

These (User/Trekphiler/Photos--Stop and User/Trekphiler/My New Pages) seem to be showing up in the main space. Were User:Trekphiler/Photos--Stop and User:Trekphiler/My New Pages meant instead? Benea (talk) 19:34, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (July)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 7 · July 2, 2012 – August 6, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Epic Question Mark (talk · contribs) (July 6) WhiteSGPlayer (talk · contribs) (August 3) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 1 2 1 4 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 19 27 40 49 135 C 6 37 43 95 181 Start 15 101 185 688 1 990 Stub 18 130 1,530 1 1,679 List 2 8 18 4 32 Category 523 523 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 20 20 Template 173 173 NA 38 38 Assessed 49 202 436 2,372 865 2 3,926 Unassessed 1 1 Total 49 202 436 2,373 865 2 3,927 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Failed TFA Candidates - 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix Good Article Reassessments – Ayrton Senna (procedural error) Completed Peer Reviews – List of Formula One circuits
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Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. The 2012 German Grand Prix featured a race-long battle between Fernando Alonso (Ferrari), Jenson Button (McLaren), and Sebastian Vettel (Red Bull). Alonso ultimately held on to win, whilst Vettel was penalised for leaving the confines of the circuit to make a late-race pass on Button, dropping him to fifth place. New images 2012
Article of the month – 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix, failed Today's Featured Article candidate The 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix (formally the Formula 1 ING Magyar Nagydíj 2008) was a Formula One motor race held on August 3, 2008, at the Hungaroring in Mogyoród, near Budapest, Hungary. It was the 11th race of the 2008 Formula One season. Contested over 70 laps, the race was won by Heikki Kovalainen for the McLaren team, from a second position start. Timo Glock finished second in a Toyota car, with Kimi Räikkönen third in a Ferrari. It was Kovalainen's first Formula One victory, which made him the sport's 100th driver to win a World Championship race, and it was Glock's first podium finish. The majority of the race consisted of a duel between Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa, who drove for McLaren and Ferrari, respectively. Hamilton started from pole position but was beaten at the first corner by Massa, who passed him around the outside. The two championship rivals began a battle for the lead that was resolved when Hamilton sustained a punctured tyre just over halfway through the race, giving Massa a lead of more than 20 seconds over Kovalainen. The Ferrari's engine, however, failed with three laps remaining, allowing the McLaren driver to win. Räikkönen set the race's fastest lap in the other Ferrari, but was hampered by a poor qualifying performance and was stuck behind Fernando Alonso (Renault) and Glock in turn for almost all of the race. As a consequence of the race, Hamilton extended his lead in the World Drivers' Championship to five points over Räikkönen, with Massa a further three behind. Robert Kubica, who finished eighth after finding his BMW Sauber car uncompetitive at the Hungaroring, slipped to 13 points behind Hamilton, ahead of teammate Nick Heidfeld and Kovalainen. In the World Constructors' Championship, McLaren passed BMW Sauber for second position, 11 points behind Ferrari. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 164 2nd Mark Webber Red Bull 124 3rd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 122 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 117 5th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 116 6th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 77 7th Jenson Button McLaren 76 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 76 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber 47 10th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 33 11th Pastor Maldonado Williams 29 12th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 29 13th Paul di Resta Force India 27 14th Felipe Massa Ferrari 25 15th Bruno Senna Williams 24 16th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 19 17th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 4 18th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 2 19th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 20th Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 21st Timo Glock Marussia 0 22nd Charles Pic Marussia 0 23rd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 24th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 246 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 193 3rd Lotus F1 Team E20 192 4th Scuderia Ferrari F2012 189 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 106 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 80 7th Williams F1 Team FW34 53 8th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 46 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 6 10th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 11th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
British Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Mark Webber Red Bull 1:25:11.288 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 3.060 3rd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 4.836 4th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 9.519 5th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 10.314 6th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 17.101 7th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 29.153 8th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 36.463 9th Bruno Senna Williams + 43.347 10th Jenson Button McLaren + 44.444 Fastest Lap: Kimi Räikkönen 1:34.661, on lap 50 British Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:51.746 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:51.793 Row two Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:52.020 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:52.199 Row three Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:53.065 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:53.290 Row four Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:53.539 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:53.543 Row five Romain Grosjean Lotus No time* Paul di Resta Force India 1:57.009 (Q2)† * Grosjean did not set a time in Q3, after beaching his car in a gravel trap during Q2. † Nico Hülkenberg (9th, 1:54.382) was given a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change. Friday Practice 1 – Dark day, Dark Knight Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton top in tricky conditions Saturday Practice – Alonso leads first dry session Qualifying – Alonso on pole after rain-delayed session Race – Webber beats Alonso to Silverstone win
German Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:31:05.862 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 6.949 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 16.409 4th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 21.925 5th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 23.7321 6th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 27.896 7th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 28.970 8th Mark Webber Red Bull + 46.941 9th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 48.162 10th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 48.889 Fastest Lap: Michael Schumacher 1:18.725, on lap 57 German Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:40.621 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:41.026 Row two Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:42.459 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:43.501 Row three Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:43.950 Jenson Button McLaren 1:44.113 Row four Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:44.186 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:41.496* Row five Paul di Resta Force India 1:44.889 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:45.811 1 Vettel was penalised 20 seconds post-race for gaining an advantage while off the track. Vettel receives time penalty, demoted to fifth * Webber was given a five-place grid penalty for a gearbox change. Gearbox penalty for Webber Friday Practice 1 – Button tops wet-dry session in Germany Friday Practice 2 – Maldonado leads at wet Hockenheim Saturday Practice – Alonso edges Hamilton in Germany Qualifying – Alonso on pole after rain-hit session Race – Masterful Alonso triumphs at Hockenheim
Hungarian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:41:05.503 2nd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 1.032 3rd Romain Grosjean Lotus + 10.518 4th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 11.614 5th Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 26.653 6th Jenson Button McLaren + 30.243 7th Bruno Senna Williams + 33.899 8th Mark Webber Red Bull + 34.458 9th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 38.350 10th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 51.234 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:24.136, on lap 68 Hungarian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:20.953 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:21.366 Row two Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:21.416 Jenson Button McLaren 1:21.583 Row three Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:21.730 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:21.844 Row four Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:21.900 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:21.939 Row five Bruno Senna Williams 1:22.343 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:22.847 Friday Practice 1 – McLaren dominate in Budapest Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton heads rain-hit Hungary session Saturday Practice – Webber puts Red Bull ahead in Hungary Qualifying – Hamilton takes dominant pole in Budapest Race – Hamilton soaks up Lotus pressure for Hungary win

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EdwardsBot (talk) 23:09, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

Idea

Lion Man wasn't really a superheo — he was essentially a black Tarzan. I have an idea, though: Why don't we add All-Negro Comics as "First comic-book created by African-American writers and artists"? What do you think? --Tenebrae (talk) 23:32, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the whole idea of starting a discussion is to, well, discuss rather an edit-war. That's the Wikipedia guideline: edit, and if it's reverted, discuss — not un-revert.

I'm familiar with Lion Man. If you look at the history of All-Negro Comics, you'll see I created and wrote the bulk of it. So I'm with you, completely, on his historical importance. But the vast majority of sources give the Falcon as the first Af-Am superhero, and if you look at the Lion Man page at All-Negro Comics, you can see for yourself he's a Tarzan type.

Also, a press release is not a journalistic source. If it's a press release from GM about GM's fall line of cars, that's one thing. But an auction-house press release that's not about the auction house itself is a different thing. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

No, of course. Given the wealth of reliable sources for the Falcon, though, I hope there's discussion on the article talk page before any summary removal. With regards, --Tenebrae (talk) 00:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Lion eyes! I just now got that pun! I trust, then, you know the old song by The Eagles?   : )   --Tenebrae (talk) 16:08, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

rvv

Trekphiler -- IMHO I don't think the Husband E. Kimmel edits were vandalism. --S. Rich (talk) 15:57, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Automotive industry in New Zealand

Hi Trekphiler - noticed your edit out of the race car manufacturers in Automotive industry in New Zealand. The reason behind them being in the article is because they are a part of the New Zealand's automotive industry (all be it a small part), they make multiple cars for sale to drivers and teams, and are not one team cars. Happy to put the concept up for debate at the automobiles project if you think some concensus is needed. NealeFamily (talk) 02:24, 9 August 2012 (UTC) Thanks for your comments, and I agree there are some issues to consider. I'll list it on theWikipedia talk:WikiProject Automobiles page for discussion. NealeFamily (talk) 02:59, 9 August 2012 (UTC) I think I bet you to the edit - feel free to change mine if you like :)NealeFamily (talk) 03:11, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

NCIS

If it's important enough to mention, why is it hidden? Davejohnsan (talk) 03:19, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

List of Train Songs

Hi, Trekphiler: I remmed out Alabama Bound and I'm Alabama Bound because they had a circular cross-reference, meaning one referred you to the other and back again. I've been working with this list for more than a year and never noticed the mistake, so I thought it might something someone put in as a joke. I'm now sourcing the song and its artists, so I'll let this stand as you've changed it until tomorrow (Aug.19). Thanks. Allreet (talk) 14:55, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

A circular reference is perfectly useless, much like the piece of paper that has "See Other Side" written on both sides. Usually, secondary versions should refer the reader to the primary version for documentation, such as composer, artists, and citations. No big deal, though, and I'll edit the entry in keeping with existing conventions. Allreet (talk) 06:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Attributed plagiarism

You may recall we had an argument recently about your tagging USS Tang (SS-306) as plagiarism. We didn't really get anywhere, and then I went away for a bit and forgot about it, but I've just come across the article again and it still really bugs me. If you still maintain that there's such a thing as "attributed plagiarism", I thought it might help to request a third opinion. What do you think? (You can answer here, I'll put this page on my watchlist.) DoctorKubla (talk) 20:01, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand your definition of plagiarism, but Wikipedia policy clearly states that copying from public domain works, with attribution, is fine. If you want to open up a debate about changing that policy, go ahead, but I'm really only concerned about this specific issue. I'll try WP:3O, see if we can find a way to settle this. DoctorKubla (talk) 20:37, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey, guys, I've replied to the 3O request at Talk:USS Tang (SS-306)#Plagiarism concerns: 3O; if we could centralize discussion there, that'd be awesome. Thanks! Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:50, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Snorkel scoop?

What is an Aston Martin snorkel scoop? AFAIK there were three variations on this theme, an early low scoop followed by the 1973 tall scoop followed by the 1978 Oscar India near-flat bonnet. I am not sure what the snorkel scoop version is that you refer to, but the picture illustrates the tallest scoop made for the AM V8 (to my knowledge, at least). If you would prefer a better wording, I am all ears.  Mr.choppers | ✎  06:57, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; award recipients; contest results Articles: The month's Featured and A-class content Book reviews: Nick-D on the legacy of World War II Op-ed: Bomzibar on German military history

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USS Tang

Care to comment at Talk:USS Tang (SS-306), on the changes I've made? Do you think we can remove the plagiarism tag now? DoctorKubla (talk) 06:11, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Daimler Motor Co

Pleased to see some activity on that article. Your additions have some (minor) inaccuracies and duplications. Can we discuss them here? About what you describe as "trivial cruft". You may not have noticed that Ian Fleming sold his Daimler because his wife told him he looked like an old queen when he drove it. I suppose it may have driven him to improve his prowess but it actually reflects on how formerly loyal customers now viewed the brand. The mention of the (famous in Australia) prime minister (who was a famous devotee of Empire and Royalty) as being a big Daimler may well have been a deliberately manufactured "misprint" by an Australian printer enjoying London. Brand image again. But then you will know and understand these things? Eddaido (talk) 05:19, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

(copied from here)

If you've got concerns, I'm happy to discuss it. I took out all of it since it strikes me as trivial. I've seen no discussion of brand image on any other page. (I allow I haven't read every single page. :) ) Aside passing mentions of the likes of Rolls or Benz being prestige marques, the issue never came up, & I'm not sure it should. If you think it should, that's something for the whole Project, not just us. Anything else, msg me back. (I've got too many pages watchlisted now... :( ) TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 07:23, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

You sound very relaxed today. I'll wait till you've finished your work on it. There was a similar but very small set of probs on SCH Davis. Cheers, Eddaido (talk) 10:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

(copied from here)

Daimler I'm long done with, & Davis too. What, exactly, is troubling you? I got the sense there were some conflicts in sources on Davis, & IDK enough about him to say. (I also noticed I'd mucked up the page style, so if you want to fix it, don't let me stop you.) TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 16:01, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Well the effect in Davis was to give totally wrong information. You've put much more in the same way and of the same kind in Daimler Motor Co. I also wonder if it is appropriate to add bulky detail as you have to (apparently considered by many) an already over-long article. Maybe it could be moved when the matching articles on the cars are written - I think it is quite interesting, I just have doubts as to the bulking up of the article. What do you think? Will leave you to have first go at making those very necessary corrections. Eddaido (talk) 08:34, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (August)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 8 · August 6, 2012 – September 3, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – TollHRT52 (talk · contribs) (August 19) Andrija Domitrović (talk · contribs) (August 24) New recipients – QuantumPaul (talk · contribs) (August 12) TollHRT52 (talk · contribs) (August 12) New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 2 2 1 5 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 19 27 40 49 135 C 6 37 43 97 183 Start 15 101 185 691 992 Stub 18 130 1,531 1,679 List 1 8 18 4 31 Category 522 522 Disambig 8 8 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 20 20 Template 175 175 NA 39 39 Assessed 49 202 436 2,378 867 3,932 Unassessed 1 1 Total 49 202 436 2,379 867 3,933 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Featured List Candidates – List of Formula One fatal accidents
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters (fr) Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korean International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. The 2012 Belgian Grand Prix took place at the historic Spa-Francorchamps circuit. Before the event, it was announced that the circuit's contract to host the race has been extended to 2015.
Article of the month – List of Formula One fatal accidents, current Featured List candidate Formula One (F1) is the highest class of open-wheeled auto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and vehicles must conform. The F1 World Championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, held usually on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual Championships, one for drivers and one for constructors. Safety standards have improved since the first World Championship Grand Prix at Silverstone in 1950, where there was no medical back-up or safety measures, in case of an accident. It was not until the 1960s these were first introduced, as helmets and overalls became mandatory and the FIA assumed responsibility for safety at the circuits. Steps were taken to improve the safety of the Formula One car in the 1970s; the cockpit opening was enlarged allowing the driver to escape quicker in the event of an accident and outside mirrors became mandatory. The 1980s saw further improvement in the structure of the Formula One car, with the monocoque being made out of carbon fibre instead of aluminium, increasing protection upon impact. Following the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994, a number of measures were introduced in an attempt to slow the cars down, including the prohibition of traction control systems. Grooved tyres were introduced in 1998 instead of racing slick tyres to reduce cornering speed. Safety measures continued to be introduced into the 21st century, with a number of circuits having their configuration changed to improve driver safety. This list includes drivers who have died during a FIA World Championship race weekend, and those who have died while driving a Formula One car outside of the World Championship. Track marshals and other race attendees who have died as a result of these accidents are not included in the list. Forty-nine drivers have died driving a Formula One car, with Cameron Earl being the first in 1952. Thirty-two of the drivers died during a World Championship Grand Prix race weekend, six during a test session and eleven during a non-championship Formula One event. The Indianapolis Motor Speedway has seen the most fatalities; seven drivers have died there during the course of the Indianapolis 500. Fifteen drivers died in the 1950s; fourteen in the 1960s; twelve in the 1970s; four in the 1980s and two in the 1990s. No driver has suffered a fatal accident since 1994,[A] making this the longest period in F1 history without a driver fatality. Only two Formula One Champions have died while racing or practicing in Formula One, Jochen Rindt in 1970, and Ayrton Senna in 1994. Rindt is the only driver to win the championship posthumously. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 164 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 140 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull 132 4th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 131 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 117 6th Jenson Button McLaren 101 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 77 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 76 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber 47 10th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 35 11th Felipe Massa Ferrari 35 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 33 13th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 31 14th Pastor Maldonado Williams 29 15th Paul di Resta Force India 28 16th Bruno Senna Williams 24 17th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 8 18th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 4 19th Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 20th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 21st Timo Glock Marussia 0 22nd Charles Pic Marussia 0 23rd Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 24th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 272 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 218 3rd Lotus F1 Team E20 207 4th Scuderia Ferrari F2012 199 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 112 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 80 7th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 59 8th Williams F1 Team FW34 53 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 12 10th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 11th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Belgian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Jenson Button McLaren 1:29:08.530 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 13.624 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 25.334 4th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 27.843 5th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 29.845 6th Mark Webber Red Bull + 31.244 7th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 53.374 8th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso + 58.865 9th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 1:02.982 10th Paul di Resta Force India + 1:03.783 Fastest Lap: Bruno Senna (Williams) 1:52.822, on lap 43 Belgian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Jenson Button McLaren 1:47.573 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:47.871 Row two Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:48.205 Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:48.219 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:48.313 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:47.893* Row four Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:48.394† Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:48.538 Row five Paul di Resta Force India 1:48.890 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:48.792 (Q2) * Maldonado originally qualified third, but was penalised three places on the starting grid for impeding Nico Rosberg during qualifying. Maldonado handed three-place grid penalty for impeding † Mark Webber (7th, 1:48.392) was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Gearbox grid penalty for Webber Friday Practice 1 – Kobayashi on top at sodden Spa Friday Practice 2 – Pic and Marussia lead Belgian washout Saturday Practice – Alonso savours the Spa sunshine Qualifying – Button clinches his first McLaren pole Race – Button wins after first-corner carnage at Spa Grosjean handed one-race ban after first-lap collision

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Delahaye 135

Good to see some new effort on this article. Regarding the higher outputs stated in your source, perhaps there is some conflation with the outputs of the more powerful 135MS? It got pretty confusing with these old French cars, and I have the feeling that many of these horses may have been ponies rather than the full 735 Watts.  Mr.choppers | ✎  00:57, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Military history coordinator election

The Military history WikiProject has started its 2012 project coordinator election process, where we will select a team of coordinators to organize the project over the coming year. If you would like to be considered as a candidate, please submit your nomination by 14 September. If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact one of the current coordinators on their talk page. This message was delivered here because you are a member of the Military history WikiProject. – Military history coordinators (about the project • what coordinators do) 10:03, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Military of Côte d'Ivoire

I don't understand your edit summary. The official name is always less important than the common name. The title can stay at Military of Côte d'Ivoire if that is the common name of course but it is necessary to use the common name for the country in running text. Marcus Qwertyus (talk) 05:43, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

WP:F1 Newsletter (September 2012)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 9 · September 3, 2012 – October 1, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Sas1998 (talk · contribs) (September 3) Eff Won (talk · contribs) (September 8) Badger80 (talk · contribs) (Sepetember 17) KHarber (talk · contribs) (September 22) New recipients – Badger80 (talk · contribs) (September 22) New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 2 3 1 6 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 19 27 40 49 135 C 6 36 44 98 184 Start 15 101 185 692 993 Stub 18 130 1,540 1,688 List 1 7 18 4 30 Category 522 522 Disambig 8 8 File 2 2 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 20 20 Template 176 176 NA 40 40 Assessed 49 201 437 2,389 871 0 3,947 Unassessed 1 1 1 3 Total 49 202 437 2,390 871 1 3,950 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters (fr) Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korean International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. Lewis Hamilton won the Italian Grand Prix for McLaren and then retired from the lead of the Singapore Grand Prix, before creating the off-track news story of the year by signing for the Mercedes team for 2013. New images 2012
Article of the month – 2012 Singapore Grand Prix The 2012 Singapore Grand Prix (formally known as the 2012 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix) is a Formula One motor race that took place at the Marina Bay Street Circuit in Marina Bay, Singapore on 23 September 2012 as the fourteenth round of the 2012 season. The race was the thirteenth time that a Singapore Grand Prix has been held, and the fifth time it was a round of the Formula One World Championship. Lewis Hamilton started the race from pole. Sebastian Vettel won the race, his second of the season, after Hamilton's gearbox failed early in the race. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Fernando Alonso Ferrari 194 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 165 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 149 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 142 5th Mark Webber Red Bull 132 6th Jenson Button McLaren 119 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 93 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 82 9th Sergio Pérez Sauber 66 10th Felipe Massa Ferrari 51 11th Paul di Resta Force India 44 12th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 43 13th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 35 14th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 31 15th Pastor Maldonado Williams 29 16th Bruno Senna Williams 25 17th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 8 18th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 6 19th Timo Glock Marussia 0 20th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 21st Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 22nd Jérôme d'Ambrosio Lotus 0 23rd Charles Pic Marussia 0 24th Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 25th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 297 2nd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 261 3rd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 245 4th Lotus F1 Team E20 231 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 136 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 101 7th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 75 8th Williams F1 Team FW34 54 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 14 10th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 11th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Italian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:19:41.221 2nd Sergio Pérez Sauber + 4.356 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 20.594 4th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 29.667 5th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 30.881 6th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 31.259 7th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 33.550 8th Paul di Resta Force India + 41.057 9th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 43.898 10th Bruno Senna Williams + 48.144 Fastest Lap: Nico Rosberg 1:27.239, on lap 53 Italian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:24.010 Jenson Button McLaren 1:24.133 Row two Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:24.247 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:24.540 Row three Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:24.802 Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:24.833 Row four Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:24.855 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:25.109 Row five Paul di Resta Force India 1:24.304* Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.678 * Di Resta originally qualified fourth, but was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Gearbox penalty for Di Resta at Force India Friday Practice 1 – Schumacher starts well at Monza Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton ahead as McLaren edge Ferrari Saturday Practice – Hamilton by a thousandth Qualifying – McLaren lock out front row with Hamilton pole Race – Hamilton supreme at Monza, as Perez shines again
Singapore Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 2:00:26.144 2nd Jenson Button McLaren + 8.959 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 15.227 4th Paul di Resta Force India + 19.063 5th Nico Rosberg Mercedes + 34.784 6th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 35.759 7th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 36.698 8th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 42.829 9th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 45.820 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber + 50.619† Fastest Lap: Nico Hülkenberg (Force India) 1:51.033, on lap 52 Singapore Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:46.362 Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:46.804 Row two Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:46.905 Jenson Button McLaren 1:46.939 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:47.216 Paul di Resta Force India 1:47.241 Row four Mark Webber Red Bull 1:47.475 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:47.788 Row five Michael Schumacher Mercedes No time* Nico Rosberg Mercedes No time* Race reduced from 61 laps to 59 laps due to the two-hour time limit. * Both Mercedes cars failed to record a flying lap time during Q3. Thus, they were ranked in car number order. † Mark Webber (10th, + 47.175) was given a 20-second time penalty post-race for "gaining an advantage by going off the track" when passing Kamui Kobayashi. Webber loses point after post-race penalty Friday Practice 1 – Vettel off to a flyer in Singapore Friday Practice 2 – Vettel dominates day one in Singapore Saturday Practice – Vettel makes it three from three Qualifying – Hamilton blasts to Singapore pole Race – Resurgent Vettel wins action-packed Singapore round

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Goodness gracious...

You bring tears to my eyes for deleting most parts of my contribution on hillclimbing. It costed hard work (12 edits) for a newcomer like me (up till 2 a.m.) to add the correct citations to this article! Goodness gracious... Aliwal2012 (talk) 06:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012

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Licensing is British English

Hi! I see that you've reverted my spelling correction, arguing for British English spelling. The thing is, licensing is British English spelling, at least according to the OED, which doesn't have a "licencing" entry [1]. Licence with a c is for the noun (and is the only difference between real English and American English); the s indicates the verb. Licensing derives from to license and thus uses the verb spelling with an s. Thus we see TV licensing (tvlicensing.co.uk) and Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency. I didn't want to risk an edit war by just undoing your reversion without making you aware of the reason in a more complete way than an edit summary allows. Hope this clears thing up. Marc (<-- all too aware of c spellings) 86.144.138.222 (talk) 02:09, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

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your editing style

...it's not horrible. I've seen plenty worse. but you edit as if the article is going to be read by an expert in the field. plenty of surveys have shown that the average WP reader is a 17 year old high school boy. they never heard of the fire balloons. they don't know that the western powers have not always enjoyed a massive technological superiority. this is important for their development. FOR THE CHILDERN -WikiSkeptic (talk) 01:41, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (October)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 10 · October 1, 2012 – November 5, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – MTracey1 (talk · contribs) (October 3) Cybervoron (talk · contribs) (October 16) New recipients – New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 2 3 1 6 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 19 27 40 49 135 C 6 36 44 98 184 Start 15 102 185 701 1,003 Stub 18 130 1,548 1,696 List 1 7 18 4 30 Category 524 524 Disambig 8 8 File 2 2 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 20 20 Template 179 179 NA 41 41 Assessed 49 202 437 2,406 877 0 3,971 Unassessed 2 2 Total 49 202 437 2,406 877 2 3,973 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Featured List Candidates – List of red-flagged Formula One races Current Good Article Nominees – Jenson Button Deletions – Velociudad Speedcity
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters (fr) Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korea International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. A dramatic start to the 2012 Japanese Grand Prix saw Romain Grosjean (Lotus) knock Mark Webber (Red Bull) into a spin. Further back, Bruno Senna (Williams) hit Nico Rosberg (Mercedes) as the pack was broken up, whilst championship contender Fernando Alonso (Ferrari) sustained a race-ending puncture in a separate incident. New images 1991 2012
Article of the month – List of red-flagged Formula One races, current Featured List Candidate Formula One, abbreviated to F1, is the highest class of open-wheeled auto racing defined by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), motorsport's world governing body. The "formula" in the name refers to a set of rules to which all participants and vehicles must conform. The F1 World Championship season consists of a series of races, known as Grands Prix, usually held on purpose-built circuits, and in a few cases on closed city streets. The results of each race are combined to determine two annual championships, one for drivers and one for constructors. A red flag is shown when there has been an accident or the track conditions are poor enough to warrant the race being stopped. The flags are displayed by the marshals at various points around the circuit. Following a red flag being shown, the exit of the pit lane is closed and cars must proceed to the starting grid slowly, without overtaking. From 2005, a ten-minute warning is given before the race is resumed behind the safety car, which leads the field for a lap before it returns to the pit lane. Previously, the race was restarted in race order from the penultimate lap before the red flag was shown. If a race is unable to be resumed, "the results will be taken at the end of the penultimate lap before the lap during which the signal to suspend the race was given." If 75 per cent of the race distance has not been completed and the race cannot be resumed, half points are awarded. No points are awarded if the race cannot be restarted and less than two laps have been completed. Since the first World Championship Grand Prix in 1950, red flags have been shown in sixty-three races. Twenty-six were restarted on the first lap. Thirteen races, nine stopped because of rain and four due to accidents involving drivers, were not restarted. Three races were stopped due to incidents that resulted in fatalities: The 1975 Spanish Grand Prix was stopped on lap twenty-nine and not restarted after Rolf Stommelen's car crashed into a spectator area, killing five people. The 1982 Canadian Grand Prix was halted on the first lap after Riccardo Paletti was killed when his car collided with the back of Didier Pironi's Ferrari. The 1994 San Marino Grand Prix was red-flagged on lap five following the fatal accident of Ayrton Senna, in which his car crashed into a wall at the Tamburello curve. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 255 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari 245 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 198 4th Mark Webber Red Bull 167 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 165 6th Jenson Button McLaren 153 7th Felipe Massa Ferrari 95 8th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 93 9th Romain Grosjean Lotus 90 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber 66 11th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 58 12th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 49 13th Paul di Resta Force India 46 14th Pastor Maldonado Williams 43 15th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 43 16th Bruno Senna Williams 30 17th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 12 18th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 10 19th Timo Glock Marussia 0 20th Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 21st Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 22nd Jérôme d'Ambrosio Lotus 0 23rd Charles Pic Marussia 0 24th Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 25th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 422 2nd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 340 3rd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 318 4th Lotus F1 Team E20 288 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 136 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 124 7th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 95 8th Williams F1 Team FW34 73 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 22 10th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 11th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
Japanese Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:28:56.242 2nd Felipe Massa Ferrari + 20.639 3rd Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 24.538 4th Jenson Button McLaren + 25.098 5th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 46.490 6th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 50.424 7th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 51.159 8th Pastor Maldonado Williams + 52.364 9th Mark Webber Red Bull + 54.675 10th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 1:06.919 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:35.774, on lap 52 Japanese Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:30.839 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:31.090 Row two Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 1:31.700 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:31.898 Row three Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:32.022 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:32.114 Row four Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:32.208 Jenson Button McLaren 1:31.290* Row five Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:32.327 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:32.293 (Q2)† * Button originally qualified third, but was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Button to take Suzuka gearbox penalty † Nico Hülkenberg (10th, no time set) was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Nico Hulkenberg gets gearbox penalty Friday Practice 1 – McLaren set the Suzuka standard Friday Practice 2 – Webber moves ahead in Japan Saturday Practice – Vettel heads Red Bull one-two Qualifying – Vettel claims fourth successive Suzuka pole Race – Vettel wins at Suzuka to slash Alonso's title advantage
Korean Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:36:28.651 2nd Mark Webber Red Bull + 8.231 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 13.944 4th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 20.168 5th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 36.739 6th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 45.301 7th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 54.812 8th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso + 1:09.589 9th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 1:11.787 10th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 1:19.692 Fastest Lap: Mark Webber 1:42.037, on lap 54 Korean Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Mark Webber Red Bull 1:37.242 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:37.316 Row two Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:37.469 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:37.534 Row three Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:37.625 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:37.884 Row four Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:37.934 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:38.266 Row five Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:38.361 Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:38.513 Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton leads Alonso at Yeongam Friday Practice 2 – Red Bull take control in Korea Saturday Practice – Vettel stays ahead at Yeongam Qualifying – Webber bests Vettel to take Yeongam pole Race – Vettel storms into title lead with Korean win
Indian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:31:10.744 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 9.437 3rd Mark Webber Red Bull + 13.217 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren + 13.909 5th Jenson Button McLaren + 26.266 6th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 44.674 7th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 45.227 8th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 54.998 9th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 56.103 10th Bruno Senna Williams + 1:14.975 Fastest Lap: Jenson Button 1:28.203, on lap 60 Indian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:25.283 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:25.327 Row two Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:25.544 Jenson Button McLaren 1:25.659 Row three Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.773 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.857 Row four Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:26.236 Sergio Pérez Sauber 1:26.360 Row five Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:26.713 Nico Rosberg Mercedes No time* * Rosberg did not complete a flying lap during the third part of qualifying. Friday Practice 1 – Vettel takes charge for Red Bull in India Friday Practice 2 – Red Bull dominate in New Delhi Saturday Practice – Vettel top as battle intensifies Qualifying – Vettel edges Webber for Red Bull lockout Race – Vettel wins in New Delhi as Alonso limits the damage
Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:45:58.667 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 0.852 3rd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 4.163 4th Jenson Button McLaren + 7.787 5th Pastor Maldonado Williams + 13.007 6th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 20.076 7th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 22.896 8th Bruno Senna Williams + 23.542 9th Paul di Resta Force India + 24.160 10th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso + 27.463 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:43.964, on lap 54 Abu Dhabi Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:40.630 Mark Webber Red Bull 1:40.978 Row two Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:41.226* Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:41.260 Row three Jenson Button McLaren 1:41.290 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:41.582 Row four Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:41.603 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:41.723 Row five Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:41.778 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:42.019 (Q2) * Sebastian Vettel (1:41.073) was disqualified from the qualifying session, and sent to the back of the grid after stewards deemed he did not have enough fuel in his car, following the session; Vettel had stopped on track following his qualifying lap. Vettel sent to back of the grid for fuel infringement Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton heads McLaren one-two in Abu Dhabi Friday Practice 2 – Vettel edges Hamilton at Yas Marina Saturday Practice – McLaren back on top as Vettel hits trouble Qualifying – Hamilton dwarves the rest to clinch Abu Dhabi pole Race – Raikkonen wins for Lotus in Abu Dhabi thriller

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prototype of Ford flathead V8

Hi, I am a wikipedia newbie, however, I have made some careful contributions. I thought you should know that I have reverted your change to the design but not production of the Ford flathead motor. I am personally knowledgeable about events of Henry Moore American inventor. 184.100.112.250 (talk) 01:26, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

the flathead V8

Based upon your last comment, where you reverted my edit, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Moore_(inventor) 184.100.112.250 (talk) 04:01, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Ramped Cargo Lighter

Dear Trekphiler, I hope you can help me please. I have created the wikipage for the Ramped Cargo Lighter, a Canadian manufactured landing craft of WW2. I have managed to find an illustration of the RCL, but unfortunately, I fear it will not pass wikimuster as far as copyright. Can you offer me any advice in this regard? I suspect the illustration might be admissible, but I am not citing it correctly (perhaps). Many thanks for any help. Best regards, AmesJussellR (talk) 07:26, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: The month's new Featured and A-Class content Book reviews: Sturmvogel_66, AustralianRupert, and Nick-D look at ships, soldiers, and railways Op-ed: Nick-D on navigating the FA and A-Class review processes

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Otis Redding

Hello, this article is currently on FAC. The usage of "lean" was questioned. Could you clarify what it exactly means? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 22:05, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (November)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 11 · November 5, 2012 – December 3, 2012 Previous month's issue
New users New members – Jahn1234567890 (talk · contribs) (November 9) TheEnd35000vr (talk · contribs) (November 18) New recipients – TheEnd35000vr (talk · contribs) (November 18) New editors – WikiProject news Check out Apterygial's My Insane Idea userproject, which aims to improve the 2008 Formula One season article and that season's Grands Prix to Featured Topic status. Newsletter news	Article developments Formula One articles by quality and importance Quality Importance Top High Mid Low NA ??? Total FA 3 3 7 13 FL 2 4 1 7 A 2 2 GA 3 6 10 6 25 B 19 27 40 49 135 C 7 36 44 97 184 Start 15 102 185 720 1,022 Stub 18 131 1,549 1,698 List 1 6 18 4 29 Category 526 526 Disambig 8 8 File 2 2 Portal 35 35 Project 67 67 Redirect 20 20 Template 180 180 NA 42 42 Assessed 50 202 438 2,425 881 0 3,996 Unassessed 3 3 Total 50 202 438 2,425 881 3 3,999 See also: Wikipedia:WikiProject Formula One/Article alerts Current Good Article Nominees – 2012 Formula One season
Editors' Comment Users are always welcome to help us with this newsletter. If you are interested, please leave a message on an existing editor's talkpage or sign up on the "Contributors" list of the central newsletter page, and we will tell you everything you need to know and answer your questions. Current contributors – Midgrid (talk · contribs) Cs-wolves (talk · contribs) Chubbennaitor (talk · contribs) How to help WPF1 – Expand the articles in Category:Formula One stubs. Read the project to-do list and help to complete the tasks: Article requests: Daniele Coronna, Hans Fouche, Chris Radage, Steve Tarrant, Intertechnique, Elf Masters (fr) Copyedit: Bahrain Grand Prix, History of Formula One, Monaco Grand Prix, 2006 San Marino Grand Prix, Rob White (Formula One), Rob Smedley Expand: F1-X Dubai, Honda RA271, Paddy Lowe, Red Bull RB3, Spyker F1, Toyota TF107, BMW Sauber F1.07, Mario Theissen, Franz Tost, Chinese Grand Prix, Colin Kolles, Concorde Agreement, Formula One Constructors Association, McLaren MP4/1, Ove Andersson, Bob Bell, Korea International Circuit, Grand Prix Drivers' Association, Spyker F8-VII, Arai (company), Shoei, Schuberth Helme GmbH, Bell Racing Company, Jim Bamber, Nazir Hoosein, Formula One video games, Make Cars Green, Jonathan Legard, Michael Turner (illustrator) more Update: History of Formula One, 2011 Brazilian Grand Prix, Robert Doornbos, Formula One regulations, 2024 Formula One season, Scuderia Toro Rosso, Super Aguri F1, Divina Galica, Grand Prix World Championship Images needed: Max Mosley, Sakon Yamamoto, Jordan Grand Prix circa 1992-1997, Paddy Lowe, 2008 Turkish Grand Prix more For more work, see this generated list or the Auxiliary list
Images Below is the F1 Picture of the month (found here). The picture has to be one uploaded in the last month and only from the current season. It is exclusive to the Newsletter. REMEMBER, YOU CAN VOTE. Formula One returned to the United States for the first time since 2007 with a race held at the brand-new Circuit of the Americas in Austin, Texas. New images 2012 File:Kimi Räikkönen at the USA GP.jpg
Article of the month – 2012 Formula One season, current Good Article nominee The 2012 Formula One season was the 63rd season of the Formula One World Championship, a motor racing championship for Formula One cars recognised by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) — the governing body of motorsport — as the highest class of competition for open-wheel racing cars. The season was contested over twenty rounds, which started in Australia on 18 March and ended in Brazil on 25 November. The 2012 season saw the return of the United States Grand Prix, which was held at the Circuit of the Americas, a purpose-built circuit in Austin, Texas. After being cancelled in 2011 due to civil protests, the Bahrain Grand Prix also returned to the calendar. The early season was tumultuous, with seven different drivers winning the first seven races of the championship; a record for the series. It was not until the European Grand Prix in June that a driver, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, won his second race of the year, and with it, emerged as a championship contender. Alonso maintained his hold on the championship lead for the next seven races, taking his third win in Germany and finishing on the podium in the United Kingdom, Italy and Singapore. However, costly first-lap retirements in Belgium and Japan allowed his rivals to catch up, and defending World Champion Sebastian Vettel — like Alonso, a two-time winner — took the lead in the sixteenth race of the season. Vettel, too, encountered difficulties throughout the season; contact with a backmarker left him to finish outside the points in Malaysia, while alternator failures at the European and Italian Grands Prix cost him valuable points and exclusion from qualifying in Abu Dhabi led him to start from the pit lane. Vettel entered the final race of the season with a thirteen-point lead over Alonso. Alonso needed a podium finish to stand any chance of becoming World Drivers' Champion, but in a race of attrition that finished under the safety car, Vettel finished in sixth place, scoring enough points to win his third consecutive championship, becoming the third driver to do so. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull Racing secured their third consecutive title when Sebastian Vettel finished second at the United States Grand Prix. In addition to seeing seven drivers win the first seven races, the 2012 season broke several records. The calendar for the season included twenty races, breaking the previous record of nineteen, which was first set in 2005. Six current or former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970. (More...)
Drivers' Championship Position Driver Team Points 1st Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 281 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari 278 3rd Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 207 4th Lewis Hamilton McLaren 190 5th Jenson Button McLaren 188 6th Mark Webber Red Bull 179 7th Felipe Massa Ferrari 122 8th Romain Grosjean Lotus 96 9th Nico Rosberg Mercedes 93 10th Sergio Pérez Sauber 66 11th Nico Hülkenberg Force India 63 12th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber 60 13th Michael Schumacher Mercedes 49 14th Paul di Resta Force India 46 15th Pastor Maldonado Williams 45 16th Bruno Senna Williams 31 17th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso 16 18th Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso 10 19th Vitaly Petrov Caterham 0 20th Timo Glock Marussia 0 21st Charles Pic Marussia 0 22nd Heikki Kovalainen Caterham 0 23rd Jérôme d'Ambrosio Lotus 0 24th Narain Karthikeyan HRT 0 25th Pedro de la Rosa HRT 0 Constructors' Championship Position Constructor Entered Chassis Points 1st Red Bull Racing RB8 460 2nd Scuderia Ferrari F2012 400 3rd Vodafone McLaren Mercedes MP4-27 378 4th Lotus F1 Team E20 303 5th Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team F1 W03 142 6th Sauber F1 Team C31 126 7th Sahara Force India F1 Team VJM05 109 8th Williams F1 Team FW34 76 9th Scuderia Toro Rosso STR7 26 10th Caterham F1 Team CT01 0 11th Marussia F1 Team MR01 0 12th HRT F1 Team F112 0 See 2012 Formula One season for more information
United States Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:35:55.269 2nd Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 0.675 3rd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 39.229 4th Felipe Massa Ferrari + 46.013 5th Jenson Button McLaren + 56.432 6th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 1:04.425 7th Romain Grosjean Lotus + 1:10.313 8th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 1:13.792 9th Pastor Maldonado Williams + 1:14.525 10th Bruno Senna Williams + 1:15.133 Fastest Lap: Sebastian Vettel 1:39.347, on lap 56 United States Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:35.657 Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:35.766 Row two Mark Webber Red Bull 1:36.174 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:36.708 Row three Michael Schumacher Mercedes 1:36.794 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:37.141* Row four Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:37.300 Romain Grosjean Lotus 1:36.587† Row five Pastor Maldonado Williams 1:37.842 Bruno Senna Williams 1:37.604 (Q2) * Felipe Massa (7th, 1:36.937; 6th after Grosjean penalty) was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Late Massa grid penalty promotes Alonso † Grosjean was given a five-place grid penalty for an unscheduled gearbox change. Gearbox penalty for Grosjean Friday Practice 1 – Vettel fastest on US return Friday Practice 2 – Vettel the clear leader in Austin Saturday Practice – Vettel still riding high for Red Bull in Austin Qualifying – Vettel pushed all the way for Austin pole Race – Hamilton king of America as title fight rages on Red Bull: Third constructors' title a "proud moment"
Brazilian Grand Prix Driver Constructor Race Time 1st Jenson Button McLaren 1:45:22.656 2nd Fernando Alonso Ferrari + 2.754* 3rd Felipe Massa Ferrari + 3.615 4th Mark Webber Red Bull + 4.936 5th Nico Hülkenberg Force India + 5.708 6th Sebastian Vettel Red Bull + 9.453 7th Michael Schumacher Mercedes + 11.907 8th Jean-Éric Vergne Toro Rosso + 28.653 9th Kamui Kobayashi Sauber + 31.250 10th Kimi Räikkönen Lotus + 1 lap Fastest Lap: Lewis Hamilton 1:18.069, on lap 38 Brazilian Grid Line up Driver Constructor Time Row one Lewis Hamilton McLaren 1:12.458 Jenson Button McLaren 1:12.513 Row two Mark Webber Red Bull 1:12.581 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull 1:12.760 Row three Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:12.987 Nico Hülkenberg Force India 1:13.206† Row four Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:13.253 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus 1:13.298 Row five Nico Rosberg Mercedes 1:13.489 Paul di Resta Force India 1:14.121 (Q2) * Race finished under neutralised safety car conditions. † Pastor Maldonado (6th; 1:13.174) was given a ten-place grid penalty for receiving his third reprimand of the season. This was due to missing the weigh-bridge during qualifying. [2] Friday Practice 1 – Hamilton sets Sao Paulo standard Friday Practice 2 – Hamilton stays ahead for McLaren in Brazil Saturday Practice – Button pips Vettel at Interlagos Qualifying – Hamilton on pole for title decider in Brazil Race – Button first, Alonso second, Vettel champion History in the making – Vettel's route to the 2012 title

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Six years later...

I just saw your question at Talk:Striga_(plant)#Desmodium. In case you are still interested, it is Desmodium that kills striga. See push-pull technology for more details. SmartSE (talk) 22:20, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

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Otis Redding

Hello, do you want to be co-nom at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Otis Redding/archive4? Regards.--Tomcat (7) 15:25, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

WPF1 Newsletter (December)

The WikiProject Formula One Newsletter Year V · Issue 12 · December 3, 2012 – December 31, 2012 Previous month's issue
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Article of the month – 2012 Formula One season, current Good Article nominee The 2012 Formula One season was the 63rd season of the Formula One World Championship, a motor racing championship for Formula One cars recognised by the Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA) — the governing body of motorsport — as the highest class of competition for open-wheel racing cars. The season was contested over twenty rounds, which started in Australia on 18 March and ended in Brazil on 25 November. The 2012 season saw the return of the United States Grand Prix, which was held at the Circuit of the Americas, a purpose-built circuit in Austin, Texas. After being cancelled in 2011 due to civil protests, the Bahrain Grand Prix also returned to the calendar. The early season was tumultuous, with seven different drivers winning the first seven races of the championship; a record for the series. It was not until the European Grand Prix in June that a driver, Ferrari's Fernando Alonso, won his second race of the year, and with it, emerged as a championship contender. Alonso maintained his hold on the championship lead for the next seven races, taking his third win in Germany and finishing on the podium in the United Kingdom, Italy and Singapore. However, costly first-lap retirements in Belgium and Japan allowed his rivals to catch up, and defending World Champion Sebastian Vettel — like Alonso, a two-time winner — took the lead in the sixteenth race of the season. Vettel, too, encountered difficulties throughout the season; contact with a backmarker left him to finish outside the points in Malaysia, while alternator failures at the European and Italian Grands Prix cost him valuable points and exclusion from qualifying in Abu Dhabi led him to start from the pit lane. Vettel entered the final race of the season with a thirteen-point lead over Alonso. Alonso needed a podium finish to stand any chance of becoming World Drivers' Champion, but in a race of attrition that finished under the safety car, Vettel finished in sixth place, scoring enough points to win his third consecutive championship, becoming the third driver to do so. In the World Constructors' Championship, Red Bull Racing secured their third consecutive title when Sebastian Vettel finished second at the United States Grand Prix. In addition to seeing seven drivers win the first seven races, the 2012 season broke several records. The calendar for the season included twenty races, breaking the previous record of nineteen, which was first set in 2005. Six current or former World Drivers' Champions — Sebastian Vettel, Fernando Alonso, Jenson Button, Lewis Hamilton, Kimi Räikkönen, and Michael Schumacher — started the season, breaking the record of five established in 1970. (More...)
2013 Teams and Races From 2013 Formula One season 2013 Teams Team Constructor Drivers Car Infiniti Red Bull Racing Red Bull Sebastian Vettel Red Bull RB9 Mark Webber Scuderia Ferrari Ferrari Fernando Alonso TBA Felipe Massa Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren Jenson Button McLaren MP4-28 Sergio Pérez Lotus F1 Lotus Kimi Räikkönen TBA Romain Grosjean Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team Mercedes Lewis Hamilton Mercedes F1 W04 Nico Rosberg Sauber F1 Team Sauber Nico Hülkenberg Sauber C32 Esteban Gutiérrez Sahara Force India F1 Team Force India TBA Force India VJM06 TBA Williams F1 Team Williams Pastor Maldonado Williams FW35 Valtteri Bottas Scuderia Toro Rosso Toro Rosso Daniel Ricciardo Toro Rosso STR8 Jean-Éric Vergne Caterham F1 Team Caterham Charles Pic TBA TBA Marussia F1 Team Marussia Timo Glock Marussia MR02 Max Chilton 2013 Grands Prix Grand Prix Circuit Last Winner Date Australian Grand Prix Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit Jenson Button 17 March Malaysia Grand Prix Sepang International Circuit Fernando Alonso 24 March Chinese Grand Prix Shanghai International Circuit Nico Rosberg 14 April Bahrain Grand Prix Bahrain International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 21 April Gran Premio de España Circuit de Catalunya Pastor Maldonado 12 May Grand Prix de Monaco Circuit de Monaco Mark Webber 26 May Grand Prix du Canada Circuit Gilles Villeneuve Lewis Hamilton 9 June British Grand Prix Silverstone Circuit Mark Webber 30 June Großer Preis von Deutschland TBA Fernando Alonso 7 July TBA TBA N/A 21 July Magyar Nagydíj Hungaroring Lewis Hamilton 28 July Belgian Grand Prix Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps Jenson Button 25 August Gran Premio |d'Italia Autodromo Nazionale Monza Lewis Hamilton 8 September Singapore Grand Prix Marina Bay Street Circuit Sebastian Vettel 22 September Korean Grand Prix Korea International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 6 October Japanese Grand Prix Suzuka Circuit Sebastian Vettel 13 October Indian Grand Prix Buddh International Circuit Sebastian Vettel 27 October Abu Dhabi Grand Prix Yas Marina Circuit Kimi Räikkönen 3 November United States Grand Prix Circuit of the Americas Lewis Hamilton 17 November Grande Prêmio do Brasil Autódromo José Carlos Pace Jenson Button 24 November

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The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013

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A beer for you!

Thanks for you help, especially cleaning up the Don Nicholson article! Royalbroil 04:51, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

P-51 intro box photo

Discussed on the talk page. Cheers ◆Min✪rhist✪rian◆MTalk 04:27, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Formula_One#Test_and_Reserve_Drivers

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Formula_One#Test_and_Reserve_Drivers.  Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 22:11, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Triumph TR7 Sprint

An article that you have been involved in editing, Triumph TR7 Sprint, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 07:58, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

Your edit to Hugh Le Caine

Port Arthur is, indeed, in Northwestern Ontario. This is a fairly common mistake (and I have gotten into arguments with people about it, both here and in real life). Southwestern Ontario is the area around Windsor and London. Northern Ontario is everything north of North Bay. The line separating Northwestern and Northeastern Ontario vaguely follows the east shore of Lake Superior, then heads due north by Wawa. The sparsely populated northern half of Northern Ontario is called "the far north". vıdıoman 01:04, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

It makes more sense if you understand the history of Ontario. Everyone lived south of North Bay since the 1700s, they've only been living up here since the late 1800s. Relative to 95% of Ontarians, this region is "up north". Some people in Toronto even consider places like Barrie and Ottawa to be in Northern Ontario.vıdıoman 01:27, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Handloading

Noticed you deleted my addition of shotshell reloading process descriptions in the Handloading article, under a guise of "Not DIY". Don't understand why you believe this was a Do It Yourself instruction set you deleted, as there were clearly not enough steps in the discussion to enable someone actually to reload even a single shotgun shell. Although you may not be aware, there is an industry standard of 5 stations used with shotshell presses, with the station functions standardized, unlike with metallic cartridge presses that have but one "station" that require swapping out dies to do batch operations on metallic cartridges one function at a time. Also, I believe there was clearly a shortfall of discussions on shotshell handloading in the article as it stood, hence the need to broaden the content to include shotshell handloading, too, as I had added. As you can tell from my "handle", Miguel Escopeta, I have a strong interest in shotguns! Thanks. Miguel Escopeta (talk) 17:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIII, February 2013

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Gus Grissom's status

Thanks for your edit. I've never been happy with "killed during training" but couldn't quite think how to word it. We both appreciate they were doing more than "training" like the others killed before flight; they were intensely preparing to go. JustinTime55 (talk) 17:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Benjamin Cross

Hello, and thanks for tagging this for notability back in 2008. I've just removed it, as it's improved significantly in that time. If you disagree, please re-add the tag or consider taking it to AfD. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 20:25, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

"Idiotic"

"It's pretty idiotic to include links only accessible to people with an L.A. library card." How would you suggest this information be presented? GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:00, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXIV, March 2013

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Formula One in 1973

Lotus actually changed its name to John Player Special at this time, so there is good reason to display it thus. --Falcadore (talk) 00:31, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Yamamoto

I would greatly appreciate your commenting on what I wrote under your earlier comments on the Yamamoto talk page under the Decision heading.TL36 (talk) 05:05, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Opinion Sought

Hi - You and I have edited many of the same pages, and so I ask for your opinion. Yesterday's featured article on Thomas Kinkaid gives Kinkaid the credit for the victory at Surigao Strait, as the commander. My thought is that, of course, the credit goes to Oldendorf, and Kinkaid was one level removed. I made a small edit that got reverted by Hawkeye7, an esteemed author. If you have an interest, would you add to the discussion on my talk page? Thank you. JMOprof (talk) 14:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. ...best JMOprof (talk) 23:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

re Dix - CHECKUSER also needed

Saw your reply; he just came at me on one of the noticeboards, BLP I think, with charged accusations while continuing to claim neutrality; I'm pretty sure it's one of the IP addresses that came before he showed up a few days ago.......CHECKUSER admin needed to have a look behind the veil.....and as I've commented, to see if it's from a known government or party or p.r. company office......I updated on WP:3RR noticeboard about his attack on me, as he's gone and reverted again.......and in an edit comment claimed that my deletion of the attack material was "pro-NDP".Skookum1 (talk) 14:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Quick spelling lesson

I noticed your edit to the 2004 Belgian Grand Prix. I appreciate your edits fully, but you need to know something. I write all articles in British English (because I generally only edit UK English articles). The noun, as in "free practice", has two Cs in it. The verb, as in "I practised", has an S in it. Hope you understand now. Spa-Franks (talk) 19:19, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

Stupid white space

The white spaces you are currently running around deleting are there for a reason - they allow the infoboxes to be connected to the corresponding text, instead of the text bunching up to the left with a long column of infoboxes to the right. Your edits to Ford Prefect, for instance, made for an enormous whitespace to the bottom let of the page, with generational infoboxes that no longer corresponded to the sections. Please reconsider,  Mr.choppers | ✎  15:01, 14 April 2013 (UTC)

NCIS

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I was joking about the barnstar for giving a samck to DiNozzo. But I think there has to be a barnstar for contributing to Articles related To NCIS.

Thanks for the cookies they were delicious :P  Miss Bono (zootalk) 14:01, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXV, April 2013

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Eagles

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You reverted an edit I made on this page. I’ve left a note here about it; which is correct, do you know? Xyl 54 (talk) 01:58, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

The "Nazi" broad brush

Thanks for your "As for "Nazi"..." comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Military_history. Those who insist on labeling everything German from that era as "Nazi" are practicing the same principle used by the Nazis themselves, who in propaganda sought to blame "the Jews" for "everything." What idiocy! Sca (talk) 17:39, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Ken Johnson

Hello, I saw where you relinked Ken Johnson in The California Kid article. There does not appear to be an article about that Ken Johnson in Wikipedia and a link to the Ken Johnson disambiguation page does nothing to help the reader, so I'm wondering why you did that. Thanks, SchreiberBike (talk) 19:17, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXVI, May 2013

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This might interest you

There are a fair bit of firearm articles that need clean-up, mostly due to the edits from a group of editors, who might just be one person, per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Uayoa. I've done some clean-up after them but it's a lot of work because it's far easier to add poorly researched material, but takes a lot more work to verify properly. Someone not using his real name (talk) 20:52, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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Season's tidings!

To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 01:27, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Handloading

Noticed you deleted my addition of shotshell reloading process descriptions in the Handloading article, under a guise of "Not DIY". Don't understand why you believe this was a Do It Yourself instruction set you deleted, as there were clearly not enough steps in the discussion to enable someone actually to reload even a single shotgun shell. Although you may not be aware, there is an industry standard of 5 stations used with shotshell presses, with the station functions standardized, unlike with metallic cartridge presses that have but one "station" that require swapping out dies to do batch operations on metallic cartridges one function at a time. Also, I believe there was clearly a shortfall of discussions on shotshell handloading in the article as it stood, hence the need to broaden the content to include shotshell handloading, too, as I had added. As you can tell from my "handle", Miguel Escopeta, I have a strong interest in shotguns! Thanks. Miguel Escopeta (talk) 17:29, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Opinion Sought

Hi - You and I have edited many of the same pages, and so I ask for your opinion. Yesterday's featured article on Thomas Kinkaid gives Kinkaid the credit for the victory at Surigao Strait, as the commander. My thought is that, of course, the credit goes to Oldendorf, and Kinkaid was one level removed. I made a small edit that got reverted by Hawkeye7, an esteemed author. If you have an interest, would you add to the discussion on my talk page? Thank you. JMOprof (talk) 14:17, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. ...best JMOprof (talk) 23:46, 5 April 2013 (UTC)