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DYK for Alfred Madison Barbour

Updated DYK query On April 12, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Alfred Madison Barbour, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Gatoclass (talk) 15:12, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Frascati (Somerset, Virginia)

Updated DYK query On April 15, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Frascati (Somerset, Virginia), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Royalbroil 02:52, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Phelan Beale, Jr.

Updated DYK query On May 2, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Phelan Beale, Jr., which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
Dravecky (talk) 06:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Why don't you check and finish this for me (and so many others), please?

You know, creating new pages and introducing complete data. Thank you!... http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/gotha.htm 194.65.1.253 (talk) 16:54, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Princess Luisa of Savoy

Why do you keep restoring the article Princess Luisa of Savoy when there was a deletion discussion and the consensus of Wikipedia users was to merge it and redirect it to her father? - dwc lr (talk) 16:22, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

The future succession in Italian Royal Family has very little relevance to her. We have absolutely no idea that when she comes of age that she will indeed become a public figure and gain media attention. If she does become a public figure then maybe she will be notable enough for an article. However at present she is 2 years old, has naturally done nothing of note, all of the content of the article could be included in her fathers article like the deletion discussion decided upon. It’s also highly questionable if any of the sources meet Wikipedia:Verifiability as they all appear to be self published. I haven’t seen evidence that a new consensus has been reached and that she is notable enough for an article on her own, and so the redirect should be resorted. I believe if you feel the article should be resorted you should nominate it for a Wikipedia:Deletion review - dwc lr (talk) 17:52, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Roy infobox

Hi, in Infobox:Royalty the “title” field is used for substantive titles and the “titles” field is no longer in use and will no longer show up in an article so as to avoid repetition, cheers. - dwc lr (talk) 02:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


Proposed deletion of Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen

The article Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:BIO for lack of substantial coverage; the only sources cited are genealogy websites, which we are not intended to be a copy of.

While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the Proposed Deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The Speedy Deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and Articles for Deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion.  Sandstein  20:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen

I have nominated Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Maria Adelgunde of Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.  Sandstein  05:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello! Thank you for contacting me. I'm afraid I can't help you, as I don't have any arguments in your favour. She simply doesn't seem to be notable enough. Surtsicna (talk) 13:03, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hello and thank you for your message on my talk page. I'm generally an inclusionist, but after a check of Google and Google Books, I didn't find enough sources to establish notability. At best, my vote would have been : "Very weak keep : I think this person is (barely) notable for her big wedding. But what else?" Sorry, Europe22 (talk) 20:26, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

I voted keep, because I'm interested in royal genealogy, but mentioned that I was canvassed. Gerard von Hebel 22:49, 17 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hebel (talkcontribs)

Could you please correct the reference that you added with this edit. It currently contradicts itself: The title and some of the information that you have drawn from the reference strongly suggests that this is a paid private notice of death. If that is the case, it is quite unlikely that it is available online at all. Even if it is, it was certainly not on the BZ main page more than 2 years after the notice appeared. Several searches of the site seem to confirm it's not there, and I doubt it ever was. If that's true, please remove the link and the access date. But if it's actually online somewhere, you might want to correct the link instead. I am inclined to trust you with this reference, but this is all a bit odd.

I have removed the passage about relatives who survived her. We don't have this for notable people, and it seems especially pointless for non-notable people, unless there is something very special. I also don't think it's appropriate for Wikipedia to address adults on a first name basis. Hans Adler 13:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but if you don't bother to respond to my request I find it very hard to believe that you have seen the source in question and will remove the citation. Hans Adler 21:52, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
You have been editing since my reminder but did not respond in any way. It seems clar now that you are unwilling to communicate about this matter. I will therefore remove the dubious reference and restore the article to its previous state as a potential BLP article. We seem to have no sufficiently reliable source for the claim that Maria Huber is dead. If she has died, after all, this fact is of course a strong indication that she wasn't notable in the first place. Hans Adler 08:28, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Beverley Randolph Mason

Hi there, you asked for some advice on improving Beverley Randolph Mason for DYK. I'm afraid this article almost certainly won't qualify at DYK. At WP:DYK are the rules for entries, and they incldue the following: "DYK is only for articles that have been created, or expanded fivefold or more, within the last 5 days". You would have to expand this article by a massive amount - well beyond what the sources would support, I imagine - for it to qualify. I suggest you withdraw it (you can do this simply be editing your entry and deleting the whole text). The thing to remember is no nominate an article at DYK as soon as you have created it, provided it is 1500 characters long and there is a reference for the fact(s) you use in the proposed hook. Now, a different issue: referencing. If you had nominated this in time, some editors might be concerned about the reliability of genealogical sources online. These are not always reliable, as they are often pages prepared by individual family members (for example), and are not peer reviewed. You may find this will limit the detail about a person or family that can be included in a WP article. Apart from that kind of issue, it looks like you're doing a good job. Regards. hamiltonstone (talk) 04:22, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Further to this I have had to reject the article for DYK. If you want an article to get into DYK it is best to a) work on it in a sandbox first b) make it 1501 characters long. The rules can seem rather arbitary at times....  Francium12  10:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Corotoman

Updated DYK query On September 11, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Corotoman, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
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Hello

I've been away and today is the first day I've logged onto Wikipedia for quite a while, so I just received your message. I'm sorry I wasn't able to respond to you sooner. In regards to the article about Beverley Randolph Mason, you should delink all the dates - his birth, death, and marriages - since linking dates is discouraged now. Also, remember to be consistent with your dating format. You correctly used American styling because he was American, but near the end in the section about his death you suddenly use the European format of 24 April 1910. Other than that, the article reads well and has a lot of good references. Nice job! MovieMadness (talk) 12:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Ice Mountain

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Re:Ice Mountain DYK?

I replied at T:TDYK. MacMed was correct, but there is no reason to be worried - the nomination is fine. Materialscientist (talk) 04:15, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

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DYK for Ice Mountain

Updated DYK query On November 14, 2009, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ice Mountain, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits your article got while on the front page (here's how) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
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File:True Color Seal of the State of West Virginia.png listed for deletion

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Thanks

Thanks for the congratulations! It often seems hard for new users (like me) to receive these kind of nice messages, so I really appreciate it! Again, thanks for the offered assistance. I extend the same invitation to you, if you ever need help editing anything. Hope to see you around the Wiki universe! Ruby2010 (talk) 02:03, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

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House of Tassis

Hello Caponer. I saw you added the Category House of Tassis to the articles Bernardo Tasso and Torquato Tasso. I was rather surprised seeing this form "Tassis". In German it is, of course, Taxis, but in Italian it should be simply Tasso, even in the plural (House of Tasso). Anyway, I didn't fix it because you could show that Tassis is correct. Thank you.--Broletto (talk) 08:37, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. The surname de Tassis (or Detassis) is indeed present also nowadays. I am sorry for not remembering this.--Broletto (talk) 18:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

nested parameter, etc.

Hi. Concerning these edits of yours, I would like to make some comments:

  • You added nested parameter in every template twice. In fact none is needed since this parameter is not used anymore. Banners are automatically nested when inside WPBS.
  • Moreover, there was no reason to add Talk header in a newpage that has no discussion.
  • Additionally, I don't understand why you removed "living=no". Probably was a mistake.
  • Finally, WPBiography uses "priority" instead of "importance". You shouldnt replace priority with importance.

Please pay more attention in the future. Thanks and happy editing, Magioladitis (talk) 23:46, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

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Out-of-process category move

Hi Caponer

Please correct me if I am wrong, but it appears that you moved a category out-of-process.

Whilst cleaning up the uncategorised categories at Wikipedia:Database_reports/Uncategorized_categories, I noticed that in this edit you blanked Category:Esterházy, and in your next edit you created Category:House of Esterházy ... and then in these edits you recategorised the articles which used to be in Category:Esterházy, placing them instead in Category:House of Esterházy.

It seems to me that the new category name is better, but you really should have sought consensus through the WP:CFD process before moving a category, so that other editors have the opportunity to raise objection if they wish. I know that article moves can be done as a WP:BOLD action (though caution is advised even there), but category moves are difficult to reverse, so consensus should be sought first by a listing at WP:CFD. (note that a speedy renaming procedure exists for some uncontroversial category renamings: see WP:CFD/S)

Please can you bear this is mind in future? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Philately WikiProject

You added the Philately WikiProject banner template to most of the prince and princesses of the Thurn and Taxis when most of them have absolutely no connection to the Thurn and Taxis postal system or any philatelic connection at all, so adding a project banner is unnecessary. I have removed those I think are inappropriate so please don't take offence. Besides which making assessments on the philatelic importance of such articles is likely outside your sphere of knowledge, though you might well be a philatelist and I don't know it but I have not seen you around such articles, so it might be better to leave the actual assessment to some of the project members who have philatelic knowledge. Have a great New Year. ww2censor (talk) 20:41, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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Two Sicilies..

i did it because no one else had done so, though members of the House of Bourbon they none of them are actually known as Bourbon-Two Sicilies. the so called Bourbon-Parma's are a similar example of this..

LouisPhilippeCharles (talk) 15:13, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced BLPs

Hello Caponer! Thank you for your contributions. I am a bot alerting you that 11 of the articles that you created are tagged as Unreferenced Biographies of Living Persons. The biographies of living persons policy requires that all personal or potentially controversial information be sourced. In addition, to insure verifiability, all biographies should be based on reliable sources. if you were to bring these articles up to standards, it would greatly help us with the current 35 article backlog. Once the articles are adequately referenced, please remove the {{unreferencedBLP}} tag. Here is the list:

  1. Abra Prentice Wilkin - Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs· FENS · JSTOR · TWL
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We in New Mexico

are going to have a tough time coming up with another Moorish Revival building in the state, but thanks for giving it a category to be put into should one arise. Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 17:26, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

Also I notice (from my watched pages) that you are labeling or categorizing Queen Anne Style architecture and I wanted to point out that the Queen Anne article just got cut in half, "Queen Anne" and Queen Anne Style (US). Just thought you might want to know. Carptrash (talk) 04:16, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

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Appreciation

Thank you so much for the recognition! I was looking at your talk page and noticed that you've been involved in disputes with other meddling editors, so I just wanted to offer my support if you ever need anyone to back you up (especially with issues of notability for nobility and royalty, as I've had a few problems with others as well). Again, thanks. Ruby2010 (talk) 21:39, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

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Barnstar

Hi, I really appreciate such recognition, I hope you can also help me editing and improving these articles. Thank you a lot! Jibco (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

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Template:Princes of Saxony

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Did you know submission for Thurn-und-Taxis-Post

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