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Armenian church architecture

Dear, can you help to improve this: Armenian church architecture? Great thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zyzzzzzy (talk • contribs)

I will. But I need to do find some sources first. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

@Zyzzzzzy: I found a small overview of Armenian architecture in the Soviet Armenian Encyclopedia. [1] This doesn't say much about church architecture, but still useful information. I'll try to dig in more. --Երևանցի ^talk 23:14, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Great, thanks.

Your opinion

Dear, don't you think that the image of Garegin Nzhdeh should be included in the infobox? Thanks.

What do you suggest regarding the article of Mher Mkrtchyan. It is fixed as Funzik Mkrtchyan.... However, he is more commonly known as Mher Mkrtchyan among Armenians. The inscription on his tombstone is also Mher, not Frunzik. (File:Mher kev12.jpg). Thanks.--Zyzzzzzy (talk) 11:05, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

His real name is Mher, but colloquially he is almost always referred to as "Frunzik", including in film credits (for example, in 01-99 its "Ֆ. Մկրտչյան", Kidnapping, Caucasian Style also mentions "Frunzik" instead of Mher). Google yields 90,600 results for "Ֆրունզիկ" and 78,7000 results for "Մհեր Մկրտչյան". In Russian, "Frunzik Mkrtchyan" (136,000) has even more advantage over "Mher Mkrtchyan" (39,900). I think we should go by WP:COMMONNAME here and as you can see Frunzik is more common than Mher.

Nzhdeh could easily be included in the infobox, but I think it would be best to exclude politicians (the only politician included there is Vazgen Sargsyan, but he was primarily a military figure, while Nzhdeh is better known for his political views). If it was up to me, I would include Aram Manukian in the infobox instead of Nzhdeh, because he was the main leader of the Van Resistance (basically the only major resistance during the Armenian Genocide) and the "savior" of Eastern Armenia as he had a major role in organizing the Battle of Sardarapat. --Երևանցի ^talk 23:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

I do not agree with you in keeping the article as Frunzik for many reasons:

• His stage name was not always credited as Frunzik, in mahy cases he was credited as Mher.
• His name on his tombstone is Mher, not Frunzik.
• A street in Yerevan was named after him as "Mher Mkrtchyan", not Frunze or Frunzik Mkrtchyan.
• "Mher Mkrtchyan" at google search gives 169,000 results, while "Frunze Mkrtchyan" gives 101,000.
• A 2005 Armenia stamp issued in memory of him bears the name Mher, not Frunzik.

Hence, I suggest to restore the name Mher Mkrtchyan.--Zyzzzzzy (talk) 06:54, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Please provide examples of films where he is credited as Mher Mkrtchyan. Name on a stamp, street name and such things don't really mean anything when considering WP:COMMONNAME. Frunze is not the same as Frunzik. --Երևանցի ^talk 05:51, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

"Frunzik Mkrtchyan" results only 39,000 at Google!! However, in most Armenian movies he is credited as Ֆ.(Մ.) Մկրտչյան, while in theatrical shows he is credited as Մհեր Մկրտչյան. I forgot to mention that a renowned theatre in Yerevan (on Khorenatsi street) is also named after him as <<Մհեր Մկրտչյան>> արտիստական թատրոն: For all the reasons mentioned above, I guess Mher is more appropriate than Frunze or Frunzik.--Zyzzzzzy (talk) 04:08, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Now on a second glance, I think Mher is more suitable. The Library of Congress goes with Mher Mkrtchyan [2]. So does the Soviet Armenian Encyclopedia [3]. Please vote here: Talk:Frunzik_Mkrtchyan#Requested_move --Երևանցի ^talk 05:14, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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"no state officials were held responsible"

Aleksandr Grigoryev This phrase is completely POV. One would ask why should state officials be held responsible? Nobody is blind here and we all understand that the government is brutally suppressing a popular uprising, but we're not judges here and we're not to blame everything on one side. Let's stick to WP:NPOV, please. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:32, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Did you read the article? It was officially announced soon after the incident of December 1 that people responsible in violent disperse of Maidan were Popov (head of Kiev city administration), Sivkovych (deputy chairman of Security Council), and chief of city police. Yet none were prosecuted in any way. How is that POV? Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:52, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Except may be for Popov who was dismissed as the Kiev city administrator. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 22:54, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

please continue the discussion at [[4]]. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:55, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

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About Hilda Tchoboian

Hi Yerevantsi. I don't understand why you nominated this article for speedy deletion. There is enough press coverage about this person to at least meet a "credible claim of significance". (Yes, I am well aware of the context here.) Pete AU --Shirt58 (talk) 09:14, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

"press coverage" doesn't make someone notable. Also, "enough" is always debatable. There are Armenian community leaders almost in every country, that doesn't mean we should make articles on them. --Երևանցի ^talk 18:17, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

You know where WP:AfD is. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

The article is orphan and has only one news citation. It really makes sense to do AfD. --Երևանցի ^talk 20:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

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Wow, thanks for initiating that! It came as a pleasant surprise with my morning coffee! Cheers, Constantine ✍ 09:45, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Armen Dzhigarkhanyan

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Thanks. I'll take a look at it as soon as I can. --Երևանցի ^talk 02:38, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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RE: Feodosia

My mistake, sorry. I didn't even realize there was a RM, otherwise I wouldn't have gone ahead with it. DDima 03:56, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! I've seen your work with regards to Armenia as well, it's just as great! Cheers, DDima 04:26, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

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User help

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Hi Yerevantsi

I can see that you are very familiar with serbian culture and wikipedia terms and conditions, so I'll need some help. I am new to wikipedia and i am not familiar with all Wikipedia rules but I am one of the guys who study, practice and write about martial arts. Just recently, page about our head instructor was deleted than restored back do to "reliable sources". ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Djordjevic_(martial_artist) ) Can you please help me out and point me what I need to do in order to have page live and running. Thanks Yerevantsi, Respectfully, Srbtiger 02:18, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

POV-pushing and sock attack on Armenoid race.

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Van, sieges, and defenses

Hi Yerevantsi, I carried out the move of 1896 and 1915 defenses of Van as requested. I was about to move Siege of Van (1548) to Siege of Van until I realized the other events could still be called siege, so the 1548 one would be a poor WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. So there's now a dab at Defense of Van, which shows the current titles of all three articles. If you check the What links here, there are some incoming links in mainspace that will have to be fixed at some point, though some of those are from navboxes, which I've already fixed. If we revisit this in a day or two, it may be updated. Meanwhile, could you rewrite Defense of Van (1915) to reflect the new name? Thanks, BDD (talk) 21:53, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks. I did make necessary edits to reflect tis new name. --Երևանցի ^talk 22:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

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Not Alone

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DYK for 100th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide

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Languages in censuses

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History of the Armenian Americans in Los Angeles

Hi! I reversed your redirect at History of the Armenian Americans in Los Angeles. Here are reasons why:

• 1. In fact the article content was developed independently of Armenian American. If this article focuses too much on Los Angeles, "Armenian American" should be refocused to an overall national focus while History of the Armenian Americans in Los Angeles has the Los Angeles-specific stuff (there have been Armenian communities elsewhere, such as Stockton, California, Chicago, etc)
• 2. Sources that specifically focus on Los Angeles Armenians exist. That alone gives the article the WP:GNG notability to be separate.
• 3. You may want to read this AFD discussion and understand why a merge is not the right thing to do: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/History_of_the_Hmong_in_Merced,_California

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@WhisperToMe:: so what? There are large Italian American communities in many US cities, does that mean we have to create article for each city? Same goes for many other ethnic groups. Most Armenian Americans are concentrated in the LA area either way and the Armenian American page, particularly Armenian_American#California section has sufficient information about that particular region and I don't see the necessity of this article. --Երևանցի ^talk 17:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

"There are large Italian American communities in many US cities, does that mean we have to create article for each city?" - Template:Italian Americans by location = Yes, or for that matter, whatever cities and states in where there is enough written information

I've read that historically many Armenian Americans settled outside of LA in places like Fresno (where Ross Bagdasarian, Sr. is from), so it's possible to have a broader focus for Armenian American while History of the Armenian Americans in Los Angeles focuses specifically on LA.

Whether a subject is eligible for creation on Wikipedia depends on how much has been written about it. There's been a lot written specifically on Armenians in LA. One of the rationales for keeping Hmong in Merced is "there's lots of sources so there should be an article" and "this would be too much to merge to any one article"

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Kochari

Բարև, գրում եմ ձեզ քանի որ ինչպես տեսնում եմ բավականին ակտիվ եք Հայաստանի և հայերի հետ կապված հոդվածներում: Ինչ որ մեկը անընդհատ Kochari հոդվածում գրում է որ բացի հայկական լինելուց այն նաև ադրբեջանական է: Փոխում եմ, բայց էլի ջնջում նորից գրում են ադրբեջանական: :S — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.130.36.26 (talk) 16:04, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

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