Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Online edit-a-thon SDGs September 2020/Tasks

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I am EMsmile, and I am a part of a group of people wishing to improve SDG-related articles on Wikipedia which is why we are organising this edit-a-thon. If you have any questions about this work, please feel free to ask your questions here. Just add a new section heading, like this:

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Perfect SDG article: why criticism section?

In Wikipedia:Meetup/Online_edit-a-thon_SDGs_September_2020/Tasks#Standard_outline_for_the_17_individual_SDG_articles, one of the suggested section headings is criticism. Per WP:CRITICISM, sections like that should be avoided. Femke Nijsse (talk) 07:43, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

@Femke Nijsse thanks a lot for pointing that out, I didn't know that! I think an easy solution would be to rename it to "reception" or to "controversies" - what do you think? I think we need such a section for each of the SDG articles because the UN might praise/glorify things but NGOs or academics might have identified particular flaws - like you can see here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustainable_Development_Goals#Criticisms EMsmile (talk) 09:08, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Reception would work. Controversies has a similar effect of attracting negative opinions instead of a balance of opinions. Alternatively, criticism may be added to the appropriate sections. If there is criticism only on one aspect of sdg, it probably should go in the section of that aspect. Femke Nijsse (talk) 09:39, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Perfect. I have made that change now to the outline. Thanks for alerting us to this! EMsmile (talk) 10:59, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

To do's for SDG experts and volunteers

I am listing here some things that the SDG experts and volunteers could tackle during the edit-a-thon:

• Discussion about new indicators that were added recently (with references)
• Indicators that expire in 2020 - what comes after those? (with references)
• A good starting point could be this paper: http://www.nature.com/articles/s41545-018-0003-0 (Bartram, Jamie; Brocklehurst, Clarissa; Bradley, David; Muller, Mike; Evans, Barbara (2018). "Policy review of the means of implementation targets and indicators for the sustainable development goal for water and sanitation")
• Look in the literature for discussions/controversies about targets, indicators for specific SDGs.
• Think about whether individual country pages on SDGs make sense, see for example: Sustainable Development Goals and Iran EMsmile (talk) 04:45, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
• Check if new chunks of text that are being added by newbies violate copyright laws, or are in any case just copied across without paraphrasing. Here is a link to a tool that can pick up such copyright violations. EMsmile (talk) 15:50, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

• Find out who the custodian agencies are the for different SDGs (currently this is specified in the SDG 6 and SDG 7 articles but not in the others).
• Find dedicated progress reports for the different SDGs (currently only found them for SDG 6 and SDG 7)
• Explain why some targets include a target year and others do not (see List of Sustainable Development Goal targets and indicators). When there is no year given, does it mean it's for the year 2030? EMsmile (talk) 15:42, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Reports to utilize

• Goal Keepers 2020 Report (Each year the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation publishes this report to track 18 indicators included in the United Nations’ Sustainable Development Goals, including poverty, education, health care, gender equality and more) https://www.gatesfoundation.org/goalkeepers/report/2020-report/#GlobalPerspective
• The Sustainable Development Goals Report 2020. It's similar to the HLPF report from 2020 but more detailed.
• Here is a report by Worldbank which probably has content that could be utilised: The 2030 Sustainable Development Agenda and the World Bank Group: Closing the SDGs Financing Gap 2019 Update EMsmile (talk) 13:59, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
• A page by the UN with metadata which explains how the different indicators are calculated (but doesn't give results), see here. EMsmile (talk) 05:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
• Search for more reports by following the external links from the SDG article here.EMsmile (talk) 05:30, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
• Good reference site for Sustainable Development Report 2020, an annual review of countries performance on the SDGs. Includes the SDG Index and Dashboards. Data presented here is from the publication Sachs et al. (2020): The Sustainable Development Goals and Covid-19. Sustainable Development Report 2020. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. https://dashboards.sdgindex.org/ 2030 SDGs (talk) 04:37, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

More publications about reception/criticism

This link: https://www.tandfonline.com/toc/rglo20/14/3?nav=tocList& leads to an interesting collection of scholarly articles criticising various aspects of the SDGs. We should utilise these for our section on "reception" in the article SDG and also for the individual SDG articles. (If it gets too bit, it might eventually warrant a separate article called "Controversies about SDGs" or something like that.) @User:Joe_Roe: I am curious how you found that link; what search method did you use? EMsmile (talk) 06:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't remember exactly; plugging something like "sustainable development goals critique/globalisation/neoliberalism" into Google Scholar and following some references. If you do a search like that there is a huge volume of critical literature on the SDGs. – Joe (talk) 14:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Feedback on Do's and Dont's

Consider grouping the Do's and Don'ts under the sub-headings of Beginner and Intermediate. In the current configuration, a beginner has to scroll through the advanced Do's before getting to the beginner don'ts. As a beginner, I've found the points easy to read and follow. 2030 SDGs (talk) 03:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi 2030 SDGs, thanks for this feedback. I'll make the change now. Glad you found the list useful! I think the biggest problem is that most people want to jump straight in and don't want to read any instruction manuals at all... (I was a bit like that too when I started!). But even if just 20% of the new editors for this editathon read them, it's already a bonus. 13:48, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Accuracy of indicators (they keep changing)

I just noticed that all sorts of changes have been made this year to the indicators for SDG 13 (and also for other SDGs)... I have been using the versions for the indicators provided by SDG Results Tracker and also here the March version: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sustainable_Development_Goal_targets_and_indicators but more changes were made in April: https://unstats.un.org/sdgs/files/List_of_changes_since_15_Oct_2018.pdf I think we should provide some information in the Wikipedia SDG articles that changes have been made and why (if we have references for that). I guess we should generally try to list the most recent version of the indicators (but also mention about important changes that have been made)... But we'll have to ponder over how detailed we want to make it at the end of the day? It probably doesn't make sense to document every single change in indicator wording. I guess in general we want to just have the most recent version of the indicators in our SDG articles. Just showing one example. Old: Indicator 13.3.1 "Number of countries that have integrated mitigation, adaptation, impact reduction and early warning into primary, secondary and tertiary curricula." New: 13.3.1 "Extent to which (i) global citizenship education and (ii) education for sustainable development are mainstreamed in (a) national education policies; (b) curricula; (c) teacher education; and (d) student assessment." EMsmile (talk) 12:03, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Publishing a new article

I've been developing a sandbox article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:2030_SDGs/Sustainability_Development_Goals_and_Australia and would like some advice on next steps to share it, without my user name. I would like to have it circulating during Global Goals Week.

Kind regards, 2030 SDGs (talk) 01:06, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi 2030 SDGs, looking good! What do you mean by "without my user name"? You could create a new article and cut and paste the contents of your sandbox to there. However, I don't think the content is as yet sufficient for a new article. I would probably suggest that you move it to the main SDG article (a spin-off stand-alone article can still be created later). By the way, are you also in Workspace for the edit-a-thon? It's another fun way of interacting with all the other volunteers of the edit-a-thon as well. The link to workspace should be in the e-mail that you should have received from Kiana. EMsmile (talk) 01:15, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

HI EMsmile. My user name in the hyperlink. I have assumed that it is still in the sandbox and there might have been a publication process that once 'live' my user name is removed from the hyperlink. If it is cut and paste then fantastic. I agree there is not enough there. I am updating it today with a lot more content. Once that its done I will let you know. I havent received an email from Kiana. I did register the article here https://outreachdashboard.wmflabs.org/courses/Project_Everyone/Global_Goals_Week_Virtual_Edit-a-thon_on_SDGs . Is the workspace different? 2030 SDGs (talk) 01:28, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Yes, when you create a new article it'll be cut and paste. Think carefully about the title of the new article; is Sustainability Development Goals and Australia ideal? I am not totally sure. If it is, then you would just click on the red link and create it from there. I have forwarded Kiana's e-mail to you. Thanks for alerting me to the problem of mail delivery for this one ! As you were registered as a volunteer you should have received it. Workplace is pretty groovy and I think it'll help us to motivate each other and learn and make some new connections along the way. I think we have a nice bunch of people there! I have now put the link to Workplace also here. EMsmile (talk) 01:53, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Citation on mobile phone

Hi. I am having issues with citations and I watched the YouTube videos recommended on the SDG how to edit page but nothing so far have taught me how to add citations/reference using a mobile phone. Please help! So far, I added {{citations needed}} since I don't know how to do 'cite' myself. Hope it's not a problem? Obiorah Precious Oby (talk) 18:58, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

Have you watched the videos that are listed here (towards the top of the page): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Online_edit-a-thon_SDGs_September_2020/Tasks#Watch_%22How_to%22_tutorial_videos ? However, they were made for the desktop version. I am not sure if adding citations via a mobile phone is all that doable. Let's discuss further but it might be easier to do it in our virtual workrooom (Workplace). Are you in the Workplace group yet? If not, see Step 3 under Registration here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Online_edit-a-thon_SDGs_September_2020#Registration. And yes, the "citation needed" tag is a good interim solution. EMsmile (talk) 02:23, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Settlement

Names of settlement in South Africa?? Rural or urban settlement Tshabalala Mojalefa (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Statistic

Spanish Wikipedia

Hi, here are the statistics in spanish lenguage: total Editors participant: 5, total Articles creates: 27 (all the SDGs Objetives, none of then had its articles) and more of 50 articles improved. Nice to organize it in Spanish Wikipedia. Regards! --Esteban (talk) 19:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hola, aquí están las estadísticas en idioma español: total de editores participante: 5, total de artículos creados: 27 (todos los objetivos de los ODS, ninguno de ellos tenía sus artículos) y más de 50 artículos mejorados. Es bueno organizarlo en Wikipedia en español. ¡Saludos! --Esteban (talk) 19:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

thanks Esteban for all of your work, Marinna (talk) 19:40, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

That's great, thanks for that, Esteban and for all your help and moral support during the edit-a-thon! I'll make sure to include that in the final report, and also in the report that I'll post on the event page. Can I link to a page where the 5 participants, 27 new articles and the improved articles are listed somehow? EMsmile (talk) 06:11, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Here is es:Wikipedia:Encuentros/Editatón en línea SDG septiembre 2020 the edit-a-thon page Esteban (talk) 12:13, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

User

Actively participate all week of the contest SDG.

Removing an editor from a contest without notice is neither transparent nor serious to the contest and all user.

Strongly requested that my user be incorporated again. Marinna (talk) 16:37, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Join WikiForHumanRights to celebrate earth day

Since you participated in the Wiki Loves SDG event, I wanted to reach out to you to invite you to meta:WikiForHumanRights which is focusing this month on "right to a healthy environment" which includes climate change and other environmental action. Please join us for:

• There is a writing Challenge with small prizes I hope you join: meta:WikiForHumanRights_Challenge.
• A live event on April 15 at 3PM UTC to launch the campaign: https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/04/02/live-event-join-us-for-the-launch-of-wikiforhumanrights-right-to-a-healthy-environment/
• Community lead events that you may want to join throughout the world, and especially in the MENA and African regions.

Here is the ping for the folks who participated in the event:

I hope you get a chance to join us,Astinson (WMF) (talk) 23:21, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Also inviting this group, please see the note above:

I hope you get a chance to join us, Astinson (WMF) (talk) 23:24, 13 April 2021 (UTC)